March 30, 1897.] 
FOREST AND STREAM. 
239 
The followins item from the JLondon Meld of Feb. 37 will be of 
some interest: '"Altboush paper has been put to a variety of strangre 
uses, few people would be iucliued co beUeve iu its successful appli- 
cation as a material for gun barrels. Nevertheless it has been report- 
ed that this is now done, and that Hprr Krupp has recently made 
aeVeral field guns of paper for the use of the German iufautry. The 
great virtue of these paper cannons would seem to be their extreme 
portability, for they are stated to be so light that a man may carry 
one with ease. It will not seem to be matter for much surprise, 
therefore, if some experiment were now to be made in the directiou 
of paper barrels for shotguns. While, doubtless, there would prove 
to be several objections to the use of paper for such purpose, it is 
conceivable that some advantages would, on the other hand, be de- 
rivable. Provided that absolute safety could be assured with them, 
there is Still one objection to the employment of paper as a material 
for shotgun barrels which might prove to be well nigh insuperable, 
and that is, that by reason of their extreme lightness the recoil would 
be so much more severely felt as to become almost unbearable." 
Mr. E. B. Walker, secretary of the Waterloo, la., Qan Club, sends 
us the following note of interest: "The Waterloo, la., Grun Club will 
give a four days' shoot, May 11-14. We have contracted for .3,000 live 
birds, and wOl run two sets of traps continuously, one for live birds 
and one for targets. We shall do our level best to make this one of 
the largest and best shoots ever held in the Stare. Our faciliiies can- 
not be excelled anywhere, as we have one of the finest shooting parks 
to be found, only five minutes' ride on electric cars from the heart of 
the city, with hotel and railroad accommodations second to none. 
We shall give two of these shoots annually and aim to make ic pleas- 
ant for all who me. Our club is Incorporated and composed of 
thorough gentlemen and sportsmen." 
Last week we mentioned in Drivers and Twisters that Mr. E. 8. 
Rice, the Western representative of the Du Pont and Hazard powder 
companies, was coming East to the Grand American Handicap with 
a strong team, consisting of a dozen able handlei-s of the shotgun in 
the West. The entry book for the Grand American Handicap now 
shows the following twelve names in accordance with the above: 
Grimm, Giloert, Chan Powers, Kick Merrill, Eddie Bingham, Dr. 
Carver, Tom Marshall, Charlie Budd, Dr. Williamson, H. Dunnell, W. 
Dunnell and E. Vories. What an interesting feature of the week it 
would be to see a match shot between this team of twelve and a simi- 
lar nuitober from the Eastern States! Couldn't such a match be shot 
on Mai eh 20? It would create as much interest as the Grand Ameri- 
can Handicap itself. 
There's more fun to the square ineli in the mutosoope exhibit in 
the Winchestej- Repeating Arms Co.'s stand at Madison Square Gar- 
den than in anything else in the whole sportsmen's Exposition. Ii's 
worth a great deal to look inside and see the wonderful reproduction 
of Rolla Heikes using a couple of Winchester repeating shotguns, 
and doing some quick work on blueroeks with Van Dyke as his as- 
.sistant. We're not going to spoil sport by entering into details, but 
go and see it for yourselves, and don't take your eyes away until you 
see Rolla ''fudge'" -when the magazine of his gun was empty and he 
didn't know it. Van didn't loaf at all either when one of the guns 
was empty. 
The Brooklyn Gun Club, whose groods are located at Bnfleld street 
and Liberty avenue, BrooKlyn, N, Y., has decided to lease, and put in 
position at once, a magautrap. Ou March 33 it will celebrate the 
installment of the "bicjcle trap" by holding an all-day shoot, the 
main feature on the day's programme being a 100-target event, handi- 
cap, of course, the entrance fee being .$5, targets included. The ad- 
dition of the magautrap to the equipment of the club makes it one of 
the most complete in this section. As this will be the first time a 
magautrap will have been used in the vicinity of New York city, it 
is safe to predict that there will be a good attendance to pay respects 
to it on its debut. 
Dr. E R. de Wolfe, captain of the Yanticaw Gun Club, of Nutley, 
N. J., writes us as follows under date of March 12: '"The Yanticaw 
Gun Club, of Nutley, has just set up a magautrap on its grounds and 
will give a shoot at targets on Saturday, April 17. The main event 
will be a handicap a.thO targets, $2 entrance. We have the first magau- 
trap in this locality, and we hope the shooters will come and see u? 
and break a few targets over the new trap. Lunch will be furnished 
on the grounds. Shooting will commence on the arrival of the 9:53 
A. M. train from Chambers street. New York." 
Descriptions of shooting matches are bound to have a cer.'ain same- 
ness about them. It is a hard matter to see wherein they can be 
made really interesting unless one is gifted peculiarly in tlie matter 
of .similes. For an instancn of the latter case take the New York 
Sun's report of the Edey-Mackay malch: "Mackay made his first 
miss on his 4th bird, a driver with the speed of a gull, but made 
up for it by a sensational kill in the 5th round of a wonderful tow- 
erer which rose straight in the air as though blown out of a can- 
non!" 
Mr. D- P. Harlan, secretary-treasurer of the Newcastle, Pa., Gun 
Club, writes, und>3r date of March 9, as follows: "An election of of- 
ficers of the Newcastle Gun Club was held on the evening of March 8, 
and resulted as follows: President, E. D. Eeis; First Vice-President, 
W. L. Johnston; Second Vice-President, R. W. Cunningham; Secre- 
tary-Treasurer, O. F. Harlan; Captain, W. H. Hill. Directors: Dr. Or. 
W. Greene, Charles Mathews and J. O. Sutherland." 
The R A. McCready Company, of Toronto, Can., informs us that it 
will hold a tournament on Aug. 17-19, and asks us to claim the above 
dates. The company writes: "We intend giving a large shoot at 
artificial birds exclusively. The amount to be $1,000, and open to all. 
We ask shooters to send us their names for catalogues. " We have 
written the company to learn whether the "$1,000" is guaranteed or 
added, as there is quite a difference between the two conditions. 
The Interstate Association has quite a large space reserved in 
Madison Square Garden for the accommodation of its manager, 
Elmer Shaner, and Intending competitors in the Grand American 
Handicap. A large sign warns all shooters that entries cannot be re- 
ceived, without a penalty, any later than Saturday next, March 20. 
All handicaps will be awarded on "March 83, and will appear in the 
morning papers of March 23. The list of entries is growing quite 
nicely. 
The annual exhibition of sporting goods now on view in Madison 
Square Garden is worth a visit for anybody who can find time and 
money to spare. Outside of the ar.icles on exhibition, it is more 
than worth the trip to meet old friends from all over the country, 
who keep dropping into the Garden. This exposition beats all Its-pre- 
decessoi's in every way. 
What sort of a gim does Charlie Grimm shoot anyway? One of our 
cotemporaries says in its last week's issue that he is coming "to 
New York city, to be present and participaie m the Grand American 
Handicap at Elkwood Park, where he expects to meet the cracker- 
jacks with the shotgun of the entire country." "The shotgun of the 
enti're country" should be a corker. 
At the last club shoot of the Cleveland, O., Gun Club, held on 
March 4, only four members took part. G. B. W., none other than 
the son of Ralph "Redwing" Worthington, was high with 24 live birds 
out of 35, his i^Oth bird dropping dead oiit of bounds. Elliott scored 
i'i, Latham ai, and Bodie 19. 
With the Sportsmen's Exposition in full blast and with the Grand 
American Handicap at hand, it is hardly to be wondered that one 
runs up against champions at ev^ry street crossing on Broadway from 
the As or House to Twenty-third street. 
Nate Astfalk is going to celebrate St. Patrick's Day, March 17, by 
holding a live-bird handicap, 25 birds, $10, birds extra, handicaps 
from a" to 33yds, Astfalfc'a grounds are located a short way out of 
Elizabeth, N. J , at Oakwood Inn. 
The Bei-gen County Gun Club announces that the regular monthly 
handicap shoot for the E. C. cup will be held on Saturday, March >il. 
The next shoot for the Recreation championship cup will be held on 
the same grounds on April 7. 
It is hard to tell who is doing the most smiling just now: J. A. H. 
Dressel, John L. Lequin or Elmer E. Shaner. The entries for the G. 
A. H. are roUing up so fast tbat they've quit guessing "How many 
entries '11 we have?"" 
The Portland (Me.) Gun Club announces that it will hold its spring 
tom-nameut on April 7. All events will be at targets, and the tourna- 
ment will be managed by Mr. Harry A. Cbisholm. 
March IB. Edward Bakks. 
Acme Gun Club. 
Washikgton, Pa , March Below are the scores made to-day by 
members of tue Acme Gun Club, of this city, at the Prigg range. 
The day was ve?y windy, making the targe ts hard to hit. Scores : 
Events; 
C Baker. 
D Baker . 
W Wylie, 
A Logan. 
J Wylie 
W McCa 
J Ohftriton., 
1 
3 
3 
4 
5 
6 
7 
8 
9 
10 
10 
10 
10 
10 
10 
10 
10 
10 
10 
SO 
8 
1 
1 
6 
7 
7 
6 
7 
16 
6 
8 
B 
8 
7 
d 
5 
5 
9 
13 
5 
6 
6 
r' 
1 
5 
6 
8 
7 
4 
o 
4 
6 
3 
5 
7 
7 
16 
5 
8 
7 
5 
6 
6 
9 
13 
■ (■«■«• ■* * 
5 
6 
0 
3 
5 
9 
8 
5 
'4 
9 
8 
■ ••«*■•»■««■*<•«■«« •ji 
t« 
IN NEW JERSET. 
BOILIXG SPRTNGS QW CLUB. 
March C— Today was the regular club shoot of the Boiling Springs 
Gun Club. The cup was won by Dr. De Wolf with a. score of 47 out 
of 55, the Doctor receiving a handicap allowance of 5 extra targets 
to shoot at. Several sweeps were also shot during the afternoon, all 
events being at unknown angles. The .scores in these events were 
(Note— The detailed scores of the cup shoot appeared in our issue of 
March 13. -Ed.): 
Events: 
Targets : 
Edwards 10 15 
Van Dyke,,.. H 15 
Adams 7 10 
Baron 9 13 
Taylor 8 14 
Hildreth 7 10 
Grelff 9 14 
Lewis 7 8 
Huek 8 13 
Hegeman 10 
E Jeanneret. ... 8 
1 3 3 4 5 6 7 Events: 
10 15 10 10 15 SO 25 Targets: 
9 9 10 17 22 
9 10 14 15 20 
5 5 
7 10 10 17 22 Paul 
6 7 HortoD 
4 4 10 ., .. De Wolf.... 
8 Sncyw ., 
.. 6 Cutler 
9 9 13 .. .. Banta...ii., 
9 6 Coman. 
5 8 Bowes...... 
MAECH 4 AT YABDVILLE. 
1 3 3 4 5 6 7 
10 15 10 10 15 SO 
Wise 5 8 
Palmer S 4 13 17 .. 
Apgar 8 9 II 15 23 
" ... 8 
4 6 
8 7 15 16 23 
4 7 
6 6 
.. 6 
11 .. 
10 .. 
March 4.— The announcement that Charlie Zwirlein would give a 
live-bird shoot to-day at Yardville drew a crowd of shooters and 
spectators to his grounds Twelve entries were obtained in the In- 
augural Handicap, a really good list when the number of other at- 
tractions scheduled for to day is considered. The quality was 
unapproachable, some of "the best in the land" were there" The 
birds too were as good as any that Zwirlein has ever trapped. A 
glance at the scores in the '<0-bird event will tell what sor . of birds 
they were. Miss Annie Oakley was one of the entries, and she had 
the honor of being the only straight at ihe end of the 8th round, 
Welch was the winner of first money ($50) with IB out of SO; Brewer 
and Class divided second ($30) on 17 each : Houston took third ($24) 
with 16. 
Events 1 and 2 were $3 miss-and outs for the sake of a little prac- 
tice. These resulted thus: 
No. I : Welch and Kleintz 0, Cubberly 5, Zw irlem 3, Roihacker 2 
No. ■?• Welcb and Kleintz 3, Rothacker and Zwu'lein 2, Cubberly 1. 
The Inaugural Handicap is given in detail below, and also the 
scores made in Nos. 3, 4 and 5. No. 3 was a $3 miss-and-out; No. 4 
was at 5 Viirds, $5; No. 5 was a $5 miss-and out. Scores in these 
events follow: 
Inauguration Handicap, 20 hire's, $15. 
R A Welch (3 J) 22 Ja-.i02110ia. 22-2292 J-l 8 
JLB ewer (Si) .. 
Frank Class (3 )... 
. . 122202021032 ^-i''2v22 J-1 7 
2 !2322ais;0 '9201223-17 
Hou-ston (28)'. 2U'0.'S1012)2i2>iii002-]6 
Frank Kleintz ( 0) 2103 t-<'2Jl 2201 222 'iOO -15 
Gao Cubberly (30) .2nc0!22ll0;20211012-15 
Jas Timmons (2t) 2222C2Z00r32022C2222-15 
Wtidmann (28). 
Miss Oakley (-27).,.., 
0 Zwirlein (39) 
J Rothacker (.8).... 
Doc (28) 
♦Rothacker,...,. ... 
*Cubberly 
♦Brewer 
*Oiass.,...., 
+Cubberly , 
tClass 
* Re entry 
...1020111010U111011I1— 16 
. .121221 22C22 2000220 22-15 
.22211810202200020222—14 
.02f 0^2-'a220222U'0201 -13 
No 3. 
No. 4. No. 5. 
12112 
lCO.2-4 
2120 
0 
22222-5 
2222 
0 
022C2-3 
20 
c6"" 
i22ii-3 
6"" 
0 
21100-3 
0 
20 
02S22-4 
0 
i2266-3 
26" 
120 " 
10022-3 
1220 
0 
22010 -3 
120 
11202—4 
0 
£20 
0 
22322 
0 
21120 
1220 
t^ft-tt-t l«4ffll«f*ltf«» 
3 2 
t Second re entry. 
TEAM RACE AT HACKKNSACK. 
March 11.- Some little talk on Tuesday morning, Sferch 9, resulted 
in a very pleasant afternoon's sport to day on the grounds of the 
Bergen County Gun Club, at Hackensack. To make a long story ex- 
tremely short, Ferd Van Dyke and J. Hildreth, both of the Win- 
chester Repeating Arms Company (the latter being one of the com- 
pany's Southern salesmen), constituted one team; P. S. Edwarols 
and W. L. Cameron (the latter one of the W^. R. A. Company's repre- 
sentatives in Canada) made another team ; and Tom Keller (with 
Peters's cartridges and King's Smokeless) aided by B. Waters (a gen- 
tleman who styles himself a "novice") made up the third team. The 
conditions were: 100 targets per man, unknown angles, lowest team 
to pay for the targets. 
It was a lovely day, but there was a strong wind blowing that 
spoiled many a good calculation. Targets dipped and scooted just 
when they should have gone straight, and that caused a lot of 
trouble. IE any race ever caused more genuine fun, we have yet to 
hear of it. The result of it all was that Keller and Waters (the order 
should more properly be reversed) walked off with first honors, leav- 
ing the other teams far in the rear. No records were broken, at least 
none to boast about. The following scores tell the tale: 
Keller's Team. 
B Waters 11111001011011111000110111111101111111111111000101-37 
lllllllOOlOlli 111011010111100011101110111110101111—37-71 
T H Keller. , . .lOnOllOOOnOllllUlOlllllUlOOlOIOlllOilllllOOlOI— 35 
OlOllllllOlllOllllllllllOlOOOOOlDlllllCOllllllllll-37— 72 
146 
Van Dyke's Team. 
P Van Dyke, ,11111111111111111011111111011111110111101111111111—46 
iiiiioiiiiiiiioiiiiiiiioiiiiiiiiimoionoiiiniii— 44-90 
J Hildreth . ..01110003100010111001000011010111101000110010100001 -21 
OlOOlOlCOlOOOOllOOOOOllOlOOOllOlOOLOlOCOlOOOlOOOOl- -16-37 
127 
Edwards's Team. 
FSEdwards..ll01111111101 .1111101111011011111011111111101IO-42 
OlOllllllllllllllOlllOllOlinillOlllllIlOlUllllll-43-85 
W L CameronOllOIOOlOIOlJOCOllOOOOOOllOOlOaOOOCOllOOllOOOOOOOO— 15 
11103003011100001010010110000001111111000001000100— aO— 35 
120 
The following also shot along for practice, .some of them also en- 
tering in the optional sweeps: 
Clayton llllllllOOllllllllllOlllllllOlllllllliniOOlllllll— 44 
OlllllllllOOlUOllllllllOlOOl w —67 
Fairmont llOlllllunilUlllllOlllllllOUlIIOlllllllOlllll 11-43 
nilllOllOlOlllllllOlOllllllOlOOllllllOIlllllUlll— 41-84 
Hyde ..11111101110111111111101110111111111111100111101101-42 
11101101111111111001001011111110101010111011111101—37—79 
Stern inOUllOOOllllllllOJOUOOlOlOOOlOOOIllllOOOOUllOO— 27 
01001111110111111000001101010011110010111111101011—31-58 
Billings llOnOlllllllOlllllllOOOlUOlOlOOOOllOOOlOOOOOlOOI —28 
Horton lllOllOtOllOlOlllOOllllOl _17 
The following sweeps were also shot, all events being af unknown 
angles except Nos. 7 and 8, which were at expert rules: 
Events: 13345 678 Events: 13345678 
Targets: 10 15 20 15 IS 15 25 SO Targets: 10 15 SO 15 15 15 S5 iO 
Edwards .. 9 13 18 13 13 13 24 18 James 8 7 
Keller 7 .. w Hildreth... 5 5 8 9...... 
Clayton ,.. 8 U 14 12 .. .. 19 17 Cameron.. 13 7 
Fairmont.. S II 14 14 18 10 14 17 Hall 8 
Hvde 6 11 16 14 Van Dyke. .. 20 14 13 14 ■". 
Waters,.,, 7 6 18 8 Horton 7 
Bilhngs.... 6 9 9 Stern 5 
Edward Banks. 
climax gun oltib. 
March lO.-The regular club shoot of the Climax Gun Club was 
held this afternoon at the club's grounds near Fanwood. Scores 
ruled high, the totals made by the first squad (Van Dyke, Keller, 
Goodman and Singer) being pretty nearly a record. Out of the ICO 
targets shot at by this team of four, prior to the .shooting of the al- 
lowances, the team scored 94 at unknown angles. The scores in detail 
were as below: 
F Van Dyke (25) 1111111111111111111111111 _S5 
TH Keller (25) lllllOllllllllllllllllUl —24 
J Goodman (32) 1111111111111111110011111111010 —28 
J Singer (3l) llllllllllllllOllOlHOllllHUOllO —29 
J Darby (3 i) llllOlHOllllOllOlOlllllllllllOl -26 
T Brantmghara (26) lOOllOllllllinOlUlllllll —22 
Scott Terry (3;) llllllOOllOlllllOlOOlIlOOlllll — -.2 
C Lambert (10) 01110000010111111011110111010110110-22 
Chamberlain (10) IIIIIIOIOIOIIOIIIOOIOIIOICOIHOIOOI— 22 
Chas LLster tOOJlllOOllOOlOOOUOOllOOw 
Stephenson lOOOlllOOllOlOlOlllOOllllw 
AT ELKWOOD PARK. 
March 9.- Nine events were shot off to-day at Elkwood Pai'k. All 
were $5 miss-and-outs with the exception of Nos. 4 and 8. No. 4 was 
the preliminary handicap, 35 birds, SIO, three high guns; No. 8 was 
10, Sr, two high guns. The tie in No. 5 was shot off m No. 6, and the 
lie in No. 7 was shot off in No. S. 
Some big scores were put up today: Smith ran 36 straight before 
missing a bird, and made a total of 56 out of 60 shot at during the 
day. Wilson scored 63 out of 68 shot at; Daly, 60 out of 66; Capt. 
Money, 57 out of 63. The large totals rolled up by Smith and Wilson 
would not excite so much astopishmene were we at liberty to give the 
voting oamea of those two ghooters. 
The events In detail were as below: 
No. 4, preliminary handicap, 25 birds, $10: 
No.l 
Smith (28).2222111221221121322211220 -24 (28).3223 
Daly (38).. 11 81 2032 32222223212312222— 24 (28).1220 
Money (28)1332111222212122223220112—21 (33),210 
Wilson (29).'2]2122312322312200220121— 93 (29).2323 
Morfey(29)3221222331310022300223222— 21 (39).0 
Sfyer (27)1212221220102221220111011—19 
W'lt'rsf28)3220232,2202201000032120w 
Doty (27). .22212232202003W 
No. .5. No. 6. 
Smith (.,9}^)....0 2'212i0 
Wilson CiUH). .212122212 22210 
No. 8, 
(23J^).12112 (28) 
(10i^),lS231 CiO) 
(.29).,. 11232 (28), 
Dalv (28) 221111212 212121 
Morfey (29)...,2230 10 
Money («8) 111322213 121122 (99). ..110 
Walters (28) . , . .220 10 (28) . . .0 
(28) 
No. 8. 
(28>g).212 
(38)... 10 
(28) .. 110 
(.29^).2l2 
(29) ... 120 
(37)... 10 
(27)... O" 
10 birds, i 
1111211121 
032221211 
112222313 
.1131111123 
102313332 
No. 3. 
(39).23213 
(28) .22210 
(38);20 
(33).23233 
(29) .0 
7. No. 9. 
(28) ... 0 
(29) ... 132 
(•39}^).0 
(28).., 26' 
(28),,. 122 
The Art of Scoring. 
The art of scoring! It may sound strange to some people to hear 
scoring spoken of as an art; but such it is nevertheless. Accurate 
scoring under the pressure of the rapid-fire system— particularly with 
a scjuad that goes through its work without delay — is a rarity rather 
than the rule. 
Ideal scorers are bom; others are made. Some men are naturally 
accurate and quick in their thinking quaUties; others need training. 
The former are "born scorers;" they are the men who can take squad 
pad after squad pad, fill them out with Is and Os, return them to the 
cashier's oflice and never have a kick registered against their work. 
A club that has a man of this class |has a treasure indeed. We 
always like to go to a tournament given by a club that announces in 
its list of officials an "official scorer." We know then that the club 
numbers among its members one who is known to be accurate in his 
scoring; his capacity for such accuracy has been deemed worthy of 
oHicial recognition, 
A MOST IMPORTANT POSITION. 
Nothing makes or mars a tournament more readilv than good or 
bad scoring. Everything else may be "all lovely;" the lunch good, 
sky bright, weather warm and dry, entries large, etc. ; but if the 
scoring is bad, the club gets a black eye and its tournaments are 
looked askance at in the future. A man likes to get what he breaks, 
and as a rule he deserves every target from which a "perceptible 
piece" has been broken. It is seldom that one hears of it when 
what should have been a 0 has been changed into a figure 1 ; but one 
always learns when "they've given me a miss when I broke it all to 
pieces!" For this reason the position of scorer is one of the most 
important in the list of officials for a club shoot or a tournament. 
The position, however, is one that should not be so hard to fill. 
The usual feeling unfortunately is that "Anybody'll do for scorer." 
We wish to impress upon club secretaries and upon the management 
of tournaments that "anybody" won't do. A good scorer is qtute as 
necessary to the success of a tournament as a good referee. Where 
a blackboard score is kept, an accurate man for the "manifold pad" 
is not so necessary as when no blackboard is used, for the simple 
reason that "the blackboard goes," the manifold pad being cheeked 
up to correspond with the scores as shown on the board. 
BLACKBOARDS SHOULD BS TJSBD 
whenever practicable. In our article on "Programmes and Tourna- 
ments," which appeared in Forest and Stream of Oct. 24, 1896, we 
wrote: "Shooters can see their scores being chalked up on the 
blackboards, while no one except the manifold man himself knows 
what he is doing to the scores; he may be one or two men behind, 
and no one any the wiser." The additional cost of a blackboard 
man for a tournament is nothing when compared with the additional 
satisfaction secured to the shooters. The blackboard too should, 
wherever practicable, be placed to the left of No. 1 score, and at 
right angles to the fine of the score. This enables every shooter to 
see the figures at any time without bothering the next shooter, and 
he is also able to scan the Is and Os as he walks uj) the line from 
No. 5 to No. 1. The season for tournaments is aimost upon us. and 
we need, therefore, no excuse for placing this matter once more 
before the readers of our trap columns. 
AS A HINT TO SCORERS 
we would suggest that it is impossible to pay attention to two things 
at the same time, and do both satisfactorily and accurately. Scorers 
should always remember that it is the referee^s business to look at 
the targets and decide whether they are broken or lost; it is the 
scorer\s business to keep his eye on the score sheet, and register on it 
the decisions of the referee. An occasional glance from the sheet to 
the line of shooters will quickly inform him whether he is right as to 
which man's turn it is to shoot. He has nothing to do with watching 
the targets. Show us a scorer who, when a Fquad is at work, keeps 
lifting his eyes from the score sheet to watch the targets, and we will 
show you a man who will sooner or later hear a strenuous and per- 
fectly justified kick against the figures as shown on that sheet. 
Scorers should be placed where it is perfectly possible to see the 
shooters when at their respective po.sitions, as it is sometimes neces- 
sary for him to check himself by finding out if the man whose turn 
it is to shoot is the man to whom the result of that shot would be 
scored. When a blackboard is kept, the manifold man may be 
placed with his back to the shooters, but shoidd always be able to 
see that he and the blackboard man are "together." 
If the above suggestions and hints accomialish anything in the line 
of better scoring at club shoots and tournaments, every Inch of space 
devoted to the subject in these columns will have been well worth the 
time spent in writing and the money expended in the cost of type- 
setting. 
Vagaries of the Old Percentage System. 
A CURIOUS COINCIDENCE AT UTICA. 
A PEW days ago we received the following letter from John W. 
Fulford, of Utica, N. Y., relating a curious coincidence that oc- 
curred in the division of moneys under the old system in a lO-target 
event: 
"Utica, N. Y., March 8.— Editor Forest and Stream: I inclose you 
the scores made in a lO-bird event shot here on Saturday last in 
which there occurred something I never saw nor heard of before. 
There were twelve entries at 50 cents each, targets taken out of purse 
at 2 cents each, four moneys, 40, 30, 20 and 10 per cent. Four men 
broke 9 and divided $1.44, tnat is, each man drew 36 cents; three men 
broke 8 and each got one-third of $1.08, that is, 36 cents each; two 
men broke 6 and divided 72 cents, or 36 cents each; one broke 5 and 
drew 36 cents. Thus out of the twelve entries there were ten in for 
money and each drew .36 cents." 
The scores referred to were: M. Mayhew, Cole, Barker and Cor- 
bett, 9; Borland, E. D. Fulford and Tunnicliffe, 8; Wirt and Nought, 6; 
Jevons 5, Carey 4, Peckham 3. 
While we have never seen an exactly similar occurrence, we have 
had our attention called more than once to cases that are on all fours 
with the above. One case happened quite recently. It was also a 
10-target event, three moneys, 50, .30 and 20 per cent. There were 
five 9s, three 8s and two 7s, hence each man drew the same propor- 
tion out of the purse. The question that naturally arises whsn dis- 
cussing such cases is this: 
HOW CAN such a SYSTEM BE DEPENDED? 
How can any system of dividing awards for skill, supposedly 
according to merit, he defended when that system permits or a 50 per 
cent, man receiving the same reward for his work that a 90 per cent 
man gets, as was the case in the sweep at Utica? We recall an in- 
stance where at Memphis last May there were about seventy entries 
in a 25-target event; out of the seventy odd entries about twenty-two 
broke 22 and each got about $1.25 for the $3 entrance; 21s were 
scarce and each man in that hole got a fair return for his money 
The "upper classes" were all right, and It was the hope of getting 
into the upper classes that kept the boys shooting. Ic may be that 
for such tournaments as the Memphis, the E. C, Knoxviile, Du Pont 
and Hazard tournaments of past years, the old percentage system 
may be more popular on account of the "chances." We never have 
liked the old system, and we have yet to s&ei on, paper a.a& in cold 
type any positive and plausible defense of its workings. Won't 
somebody come forward and oblige us? We will guarantee him al 
the space in our trap columns that he can fill, even if we have to 
present his story in serial form. 
IT IS DIFFERENT WITH THE ROSE SYSTEM. 
With the Rose system it is a totally different thmg. The system, 
while it always rewards skill proportionately, does not permit of 
"large pots alone;" does not permit of large winnings; for all practi- 
cal purposes it does away with dropping fur place and the evils inci- 
dent to poohng of interests. There is much that can be said in de- 
fense of this system, Much has been said in the columns of Forest 
AND Streak on behalf of the system, and every word has told. The 
result is patent to all. Programmes are constantly coming to hand 
with the announcement that the Rose system will be used in dividing 
purses. For the first two months of 1890 we could have counted such 
programmes on the fingers of one hand, and not have needed every 
digit at that. Both hands are not, sufficient this year. 
There must be some solid reason for this great growth in popular- 
ity. There is also a reason why the system is not popular with some 
people, Neither of these two reasoas is hard to guees if you'U onjy 
ibiok a momeat or-two after reading ^9 aboT«. 
