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The question of granting permits to gather awa in the Ter- 
ritorial forest reserves was referred to the Superintendent of 
Forestry to be reported upon with recommendations. 
Use of Water in Forest Reserves. — Mr. Campbell notified the 
Board that the Attorney General had rendered an opinion, No. 
203, dated May 5, 1911, by Mr. A. G. Smith, which ruled that a 
A^ter license recently issued to the Pupukea Water Users' Asso- 
ciation to develop water on and pipe the same from the Pupukea 
Forest Reserve should have been issued by the Board of Agri- 
culture and Forestry rather than the Superintendent of Public 
Works and Commissioner of Public Lands. The Board there- 
upon formally approved the action taken by Mr. Campbell in 
granting this license. 
Remarks by H. M. Curran. — At the invitation of the President, 
Mr. H. M. Curran, of the Philippine Forest Reserve, temporarily 
a Special Agent in the Division of Forestry, addressed the Board. 
Mr. Curran referred briefly to his findings in regard to the forest 
in the Koolau District, Maui, as set forth more at length in his 
report to the Board dated May 12, 1911, and then went on to point 
out certain things which in his judgment the Territory should do 
to get the most good out of its forest properties. 
In substance his recommendations were that all available waste 
land controlled by the government, especially tracts near markets, 
should be got under forest, so that in due course wood could be 
cut and sold and a revenue derived for the use of the Board. He 
favored the extension of the algaroba forest on the dry hills back 
of Honolulu and in other like situations, as well as on the areas 
on the plantations not suitable for more intensive forms of agri- 
culture. 
Further, Mr. Curran thought that some arrangements ought to 
be made whereby at least a part of the revenues derived from the 
use of water from the forest reserves should be made available 
for the use of the Board in conducting and especially in extending 
its forest work. He said that in his judgment it ought to be pos- 
sible to make the Hawaiian forests yield in wood and water hand- 
some returns each year. The European forests yield from $2.00 
to $5.00 per acre per annum. With water playing the large role 
that it does in Hawaii it should be possible to get somewhat simi- 
lar returns here. 
Finanees. — After some discussion of the financial situation of 
the Board it was voted that the chairmen of the three principal 
committees look thoroughly into the matter, particularly with re- 
gard to the allotment of special work, and report to the Board at 
a subsequent meeting. 
MEETINGS TO CONSIDER FINANCES. 
On May 20, 22 and 23 the Board held special meetings to con- 
sider the financial situation of the Board, especially with reference 
