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1 deprecate  any  proposition  of  condemnation  of  land  for  forest 
purposes,  the  more  so  for  private  purposes,  for  the  interests  of 
the  planters  up  there.  I hope  such  an  idea  will  not  be  carried 
out,  because  an  agreement  could  be  accomplished  by  the  proper 
meetings  of  the  owners. 
Mr.  Campbell.  Mr.  Holstein,  what  is  your  feeling  in  regard 
to  a possible  exchange  of  land  by  the  Government  at  Holiu  there 
for  forest  reserve? 
Mr.  Holstein.  Private  exchange? 
Mr.  Campbell.  Do  you  think  the  Government  is  justified  in 
making  an  exchange  with  other  lands  for  forest  reserve? 
A.  It  all  depends  on  what  land  the  Government  is  going  to 
exchange. 
Mr.  Campbell.  Well,  possibly  agricultural  land  for  land  of  this 
kind  ? 
Mr.  Holstein.  Then  I am  opposed  to  such  a proposition. 
Mr.  Campbell.  Lands  of  a similar  character,  you  might  feel 
differently  about? 
Mr.  Holstein.  I would  feel  more  favorable  to  such  a proposi- 
tion. 
Mr.  Campbell.  The  point  I particularly  want  to  anive  at  is 
this 
Mr.  Holstein.  Pardon  me,  in  that  vicinity,  we  have  a great 
problem  in  the  Kohala  district,  as  well  as  in  South  Kohala,  the 
reclamation  of  land,  thousands  of  acres.  I think  the  Government 
has  in  the  neighborhood  of  15,000  acres  of  pili  lands,  which  in 
days  to  come  will  furnish  homes  for  the  people  which  you  wish 
to  have  in  the  Islands.  The  exchange  of  agricultural  land,  I am 
particularly  opposed  to  in  that  neighborhood.  And  if  we  can 
come  to  some  proposition  whereby  these  lands  could  be  obtained 
by  the  Government,  all  the  better. 
Mr.  Campbell.  I think  the  situation  with  regard  to  any  minor 
changes  in  line  by  taking  in  Puu  Pili  and  any  smaller  matters  can 
be  determined  in  the  final  adjustment.  I wanted  a general  ex- 
pression of  opinion  of  the  people  of  Kohala,  whether  we  have 
recommended  reasonable  boundaries  and  whether  the  people  of 
Kohala  were  satisfied. 
Mr.  Campbell.  Mr.  Bryant,  do  you  feel  that  we  are  on  the 
right  track? 
Mr.  Bryant.  Yes. 
Mr.  Campbell.  Practically  every  interest  in  Kohala  is  rep- 
resented here  today,  and  later  on  when  we  come  to  a conclusion, 
we  don’t  want  to  feel  that  we  have  made  an  error,  or  in  our  pre- 
liminary meetings  determine  on  a thing  which  is  not  proper.  If 
there  are  any  objections  to  the  line  as  established,  I would  be 
pleased  to  hear  them. 
Mr.  Hosmer.  If  the  line  is  not  perfectly  clear  to  every  body 
from  these  maps,  there  are  here  some  of  the  detailed  maps  of  that 
district,  if  anybody  wants  them. 
Mr.  Holstein.  Silence  gives  consent. 
