492 
Mr.  Campbell.  That  is  Frank  Woods’  fee  in  Waika,  463  acres  ? 
Mr.  Swanzy.  There  are  two  pieces,  463  and  782. 
Mr.  Robertson.  He  has  in  round  numbers  1200.  Four  hun- 
dreed  and  eighty-two  in  this  Austin  Estate  lease,  in  round  num- 
bers, 1700  acres. 
Mr.  Campbell.  The  exchange  that  he  would  want  would  be  for 
1200  acres  of  land? 
Mr.  Robertson.  Presumably  if  an  adjustment  was  made,  it 
might  also  include  the  Austin  Estate  lease,  I presume  that  would 
depend  on  what  terms  the  Government  or  other  parties  were  in 
a position  to  offer.  I have  nothing  to  offer.  I don’t  know  what 
there  is  available  there  in  the  way  of  an  exchange  with  Frank 
Woods,  but  his  position  is  against  selling,  and  in  favor  of  an  ex- 
change. 
Mr.  Campbell.  The  Government  in  1905,  had  its  sub-agent 
make  an  appraisement  of  the  lands  of  the  Woods  Estate  and  the 
other  lands  that  the  Government  requires. 
Territory  of  Hawaii, 
Department  of  Public  Lands. 
Hilo,  Hawaii,  August  14,  1905. 
Jas.  W.  Pratt,  Esq., 
Commissioner  of  Public  Lands, 
Honolulu. 
Sir : In  accordance  with  the  instructions  contained  in  your  let- 
ter of  the  1st  inst.,  I met  Mr.  R.  S.  Hosmer,  Superintendent  of 
Forestry,  in  Kohala,  for  the  purpose  of  looking  over  the  lands 
of  the  Woods  Estate  wanted  for  forestry  purposes,  placing  a value 
on  the  same,  and  also  appraising  the  lower  lands  near  the  north 
point  of  this  island,  which  lands  it  was  thought  at  the  time,  the 
management  of  the  Woods  Estate  wanted  in  exchange  for  Kehena 
2,  the  land  containing  the  forest. 
On  Saturday  morning,  August  5,  we  accordingly  inspected  the 
lands  of  Hualua,  Kealahewa,  Opihipau,  Hukiaa  and  Kokoiki, 
situated  near  the  North  Point.  Later  on,  on  Tuesday,  August  8, 
I again  went  over  these  lands  with  Mr.  Tulloch,  the  local 
appraiser. 
It  was  not  until  Tuesday  morning,  the  8th,  that  we  learned 
from  the  management  of  the  Woods  Estate,  just  what  lands  were 
wanted,  in  return  for  the  land  to  be  given  up,  and  we  then  found 
that  the  following  was  asked  for  in  exchange : 
1.  Kawaihae  uka,  from  about  2,100  feet  elevation,  to  approxi- 
mately 4,000  feet  elevation.  This  would  comprise  an  area  of 
about  4,000  acres.  This  land  is  now  under  lease  to  the  Parker 
Estate  until  1913. 
2.  All  the  lands  mentioned  above,  from  Hualua  to  Kokoiki,. 
situated  near  the  North  Point  of  Hawaii. 
