500 
Mr.  Robertson.  I don’t  know  that  there  is  anything  to  be 
gained  by  that,  for  the  appraiser  appointed  by  the  plantation 
would  take  the  plantation’s  view  of  it,  and  the  appraiser  appointed 
by  the  Woods  Estate  would  take  the  Woods  Estate  view  of  it. 
Is  it  not  better  for  the  planters  to  consider  the  matter  themselves  ? 
I am  inclined  to  think  that  possibly  that  can  be  done.  Let  the 
planters  sit  down  and  give  careful  consideration  to  the  value  of 
that  land  from  the  ranch  standpoint,  if  they  can  put  themselves 
in  that  position,  and  having  come  to  the  conclusion  as  to  how 
much  they  are  willing  to  pay,  let  them  authorize  somebody  to 
make  an  offer.  It  may  be  that  their  offer  will  be  accepted.  I 
don’t  know.  It  seems  to  me  that  the  thing  will  come  to  a focus 
quicker  that  way  than  agreeing  on  the  machinery  for  agreeing  on 
appraisers. 
Mr.  Campbell.  The  Government’s  position  is  to  get  the  thing 
settled  as  quickly  as  possible,  because  by  the  first  of  November  we 
ought  to  have  money. 
Mr.  Swanzy.  I understand  the  Government  is  willing  to  use 
such  portions  of  the  $25,000.00  for  the  fencing  of  Kohala  as  is 
necessary  for  the  work. 
Mr.  Campbell.  Yes. 
Mr.  Hosmer.  I have  not  been  on  the  land  for  some  months, 
but  my  impression  is  that  most  of  the  places  that  would  have  to 
be  replanted  would  be  on  Kehena  2.  Kahua,  except  right  back  of 
Puupili,  has  not  been  opened  up  so  much  but  that  if  a fence  is  put 
there,  the  forest  will  come  back  naturally,  but  on  the  land  where 
cattle  grazing  is  going  on,  and  where  is  has  been  going  on  for 
some  time,  artificial  reforesting  would  be  necessary  to  help  out 
natural  reproduction. 
Mr.  Campbell.  The  $25,000.00  would  be  in  this  district.  There 
may  be  some  necessary  fencing  here  and  there,  but  the  major 
portion,  twenty-three  or  twenty-four  thousand  dollars,  will  be  de- 
voted to  this  area  acquired  by  the  plantation  interests.  That  is  a 
definite  statement  of  fact  based  upon  a resolution  of  the  Board  on 
that  point.  Mr.  Robertson,  as  attorney  for  the  Frank  Woods 
Estate,  are  you  still  holding  to  the  proposition  that  he  wants  an 
exchange  ? 
Mr.  Robertson.  Yes. 
Mr.  Campbell.  To  be  a little  clearer,  Mr.  Swanzy,  if  we  only 
secured  a portion  of  these  lands,  we  could  only  afford  to  spend  a 
portion.  Our  offer  was  to  expend  $25,000.00,  is  to  take  the  whole 
thing,  and  a proportionate  part  should  be  expended  if  only  a por- 
tion of  these  lands  should  be  acquired. 
Mr.  Petrie.  Mr.  Chairman,  leaving  aside  the  discussion  of  Ke- 
hena No.  2,  I want  to  ask  if  the  Government  has  any  solution  in 
view  of  the  situation  with  Mr.  Frank  Woods,  on  the  basis  of  an 
exchange.  It  seems  to  me  he  is  not  disposed  to  sell  unless  he 
acquires  other  pasturable  lands  to  continue  his  ranch  business. 
Has  the  Government  anything  in  view  whereby  that  part  might  be 
solved  ? 
