FOREST AND STREAM. 
[SfepT. i, 1897. 
it would i^robably pay in nearly all cases. If one side were 
thus provided with two helmsmen and a double crew, the 
'other would be compelled to go to the same extreme. It is 
almogt certain that the two questions will be brought up by 
the present holders of the cup with a view to a definite un- 
derstanding of the existing rules, and, if necessary, to fur- 
ther restrictive legislation. Looking at the inatter in the 
abstract, and with due regard to the best interests of the 
'sport, most yachtsmen will agree with us that it is in every 
Vay desirable that each yacht shall be steered by one man 
•and manned by one regular crew, and that the present pte- 
toium on mere weight of crew be removed. 
The first race, of Aug. 14, offered a most conspicuous in- 
stance of the hasty and superficial judgment of even old and 
feic^ert yachtsmen. When looked at carefully in all its 
aspeets, the victory of Momo was a very simple matter, 
meaning little at all. On her part she had shown up excel- 
lently in light weather, her mainsail was in perfect shape 
and there was no question, though she had nothing close 
beside her, that she was pointing and footing and working 
out well to windward; off the wind her speed was still more 
perceptible. That Glencairn was in trouble was no fault of 
hers, it was but thechance.of war, and by all yachting usage 
Monao had scored one of the necessary three races, though 
it is most probable that Mr. Crane would have declined to 
take it. The work of the whole day, as far as she was con- 
cerned, was such as to encourage her crew and to send them 
off in Monday's race in the best possible spirits. 
Beyond this the race showed nothing as to the relative 
merits of the two boats. On the side of Glencairn, it was 
known after the race, though not in detail during its prog- 
ress, that her tiller had fouled and finally broken; that she 
ihad run wild and fouled a markboat; that she had a hole in 
her side, below the water on one tack, and that her new rud- 
der failed to steer her. Added to all this, Mr. Duggan crosssd 
the line with the certainty that his boat was disqualified, 
and that the best he could do would be to make a show at 
racing for the benefit of the many interested spectators. 
That Glencairn was beaten two minutes in two miles under 
such conditions meant nothing at all. What was of far 
more importance in the eyes of those who really cared to see? 
was that in the last leg over the same distance a couple of 
hours later, after her helmsman and crew had recovered 
from the confusion of the breakdown and foul, she made 
better time than Momo by 36s, Of course the two were far 
apart, Momo was in noway pushed, and theconditions varied 
a little; but still there was plenty to show that the boats 
were not materially different in such weather. 
The one fact that seemed to strike everyone was that Momo 
had beaten Glencairn nearly four minutes in the first round; 
no one seemed to attach any importance at all to the really 
imi)ortant fact that Momo had made but 25 seconds in the 
entire third round. Subsequent events corroborated the 
fact that Momo is faster off the wind than Glencairn, though 
not to the extent indicated in this first race of 30 seconds 
to the mile; but all we have seen of the two, first and last, 
goes to show that to windward, in any sort of a working 
bj-eeze, Glencairn will make up a part of this gain, and that 
the rest will be lost in superior handling on Glencairn. 
The effect of this race on the experts of the press was very 
amusing. The cup was already safely back at Oyster Bay, 
Mr. Duggan was on the verge of nervous prostration as the 
result, of his defeat, and w uld probably break down before 
Monday's start, and all was over but the shouting, Even 
among the yachtsmen of both sides this same hasty judg- 
ment was visible; some of the St. Lawrence men were ready 
to bid a long farewell to the cup without waiting for Mon- 
day, and some of the visitors were correspondingly.elated. 
A look at the hole in Glencairn's side, at the two parts of ht r 
tiller with half of a broken bolt in each, and at Mr. Duggan, 
coolly and unconcernedly at work as soon as the boat was 
hauled out cutting off the fore part of the rudder and rivet- 
ing up the edge, showed just how much the whole business 
amounted to as a reliable measure of the merits of the two 
boats. 
The published comments since the race are quite as wide 
of the mark; one journal proclaims editorially that Glen- 
cairn II. is only a copy of Momo, designed from the descrip- 
tions of the latter prematurely published during the early 
races; another authority denounces Momo as a mere en- 
largement of El Heirie, and accupes Mr. Crane of ignoring 
the lessons learned last year. Very few of the accounts 
which we have read do equal justice to the two clev«r ama- 
teurs who have pitted their wits against each other for the 
second time. 
A New Knockabout Class. 
The Seawanhaka Cor. Y. C. has just issued the following 
circular; 
NEW ONE-DESIGH EACING CLASS. 
During the past few years there has been developed in Bos- 
ton and its vicinity a very large class of boats known as 
knockabouts, which combine highly satisfactory cruising 
qualities with high speed and absolute safety. While sev- 
eral designers are represented, the restrictions governing 
their design and construction are such that the boats are 
very even in speed and the racing has consequently been 
very keen and exciting. The Herreshoff one-design 30ft. 
special class has also been conspicuously successful for two 
years and the interest in racing in this class is keener this 
year than last, which tends to prove that the "one-design" 
idea is well calculated to arouse interest in the sport. Im- 
pressed with the experience in these classes, several members 
have decided to construct knockabout boats for next season's 
racing, all from one design and by one builder, and they are 
anxious that the number constructed shall be as large as 
po.ssible, both for the effect upon racing and to reduce the 
cost. 
Several builders have been invited to submit designs, and 
the purpose of this circular is to invite all who may be inter- 
ested in the matter to meet at the Oyster Bay club house on 
Saturday, Sept. 4 (the day of the autumn race), at 8 o'clock 
in the evening, when designs will be submitted and the de- 
tails fully discussed, with the view of placing an early order 
for as many boats as practicable. It is hoped that from ten 
to fifteen will be ordered, and in that event the cost should 
be vei'y moderate. 
The boats will be 21ft. on the water line, will have a cabin 
and cockpit, each about 8ft. in length, and will be well 
adapted for cruising as well as for racing. 
Believing that the establishment of this class will espe- 
cially contribute to the success of racing in our own waters 
at Oyster Bay, the race committee will encourage it by the 
giving of frequent races, and desire to aid in the movement 
In every practicable way, and will be glad to furnish any ad- 
ditional information in their possession to any who may be 
interested. 
Western Yachting. 
MINNESOTA INTERLAKE CONTESTS. 
Chicago, 111., Aug. 28.— The annual interlake contests be- 
tween the Minnetonka and White Bear fleets offer interesting 
features this week. As a result of the trial races on Minne- 
tonka, the three boats chosen to send to White Bear for the 
championship races were: Wizard, sloop; Gladrene, one- 
rater; and Tartar, cat. After the departure of these boats 
for White Bear, interest in the races between remaining 
boats at Minnetonka fell off. 
On Aug. 36 the interlake regatta sailed on White Bear 
Lake was a frolic for the yachtsmen of the White Bear club, 
who won everything in sight excepting the cat race, where 
the redoubtable Tartar carried off the only victory for the 
Miwietoiika Y. C, The boats and crews were as follows; 
iTirst Class Sloops— Wizard, Minnetonka, Capt. Alf. PiUs- 
bury; W. D. Morse, Dan Raymond, R. P. Woodworth, John 
Pillsbury, Frank Morse. Akela, White Bear, Capt. Milton 
Griggs; P. C Gotzain, Eugene Ramaley, F. M. Douglas, 
Don Bunn, C. II. McGill. Both of theseboats were designed 
by Peterson, of Mitiuetonka, and built in his shop at Excel- 
sior. 
Catboats— Tartar, Minnetonka. Capt. Wm. Peet; Camp- 
bell, Sweeney, C. L, Mendel, D. W. Knowlton, David Ten- 
ney, Willie Rolph. Aurelia, White Bear. Capt. J. M. Welch; 
Archie McLaren, Sidney Dean, W. H. Yardley, Sam Bunn, 
Lance Bement. 
One rater.s— Gladrene, Minnetonka. Cnpt. F. J. Hopkins; 
W. G. Gale, Gale Mertick, Sidney Wolcott. Witch. White 
Bear, Capt. Fred R, Bigelow; H, Van Vleck, T. L. Wann. 
The regatta committee in charge is comjiosed of Tracy 
Lyons and L. P. Ordway for White Bear, and C. B. Eustis 
for Minnetonka, These gentlemen have full charge of ihe 
races, and in all matters their decisions will be absolutely 
final. 
The dimensions of the six competing boats are-as follows- 
Sail area. 
!q. ft. LWX 
Akpla 698. ;i mt.lHo. 
Wizard 70* 82ft. Pin. 
Amelia B79.0r 22n. 9ii3. 
Tartar 585 22ft. lOio. 
Wiicti 347 41 lift. iiti. 
Gladrene 348 17lt. lOin. 
Length 
ovpr all. 
Sfifi. 4in. 
;-8fl. Tin. 
31ft. 
23ft 
asrt. 6in. 
Beam. 
m. 4in. 
Sft. 7in. 
9 ft tifn. 
8fc. Oin. 
7 ft. 
rrr. - 
The following was the sailing time: 
FIRST CLASS SLOOPS. 
Akela...,.., ,. 2 04 <:i Wiz^ird.. 2 CO 34 
' FIRST CLA.gS CATS, 
Tartar i 15 iU ADrelia, 2 15 25 
ONE RATERS. 
Witcb 1.^138 Uladrene .1 56 42 
On the following day. Aug. 25, the White Bear men 
clinched their victory by decisively heating the Minnetonka 
boats in each one of the events, sloop, cat and one-rater, the 
following being the time: 
Start. 
Finish. 
Elupsed. 
Corrected, 
S 85 00 
4 06 39 
1 41 .59 
1 32 29 
2 £5 00 
4 14 07 
1 49 ir 
1 39 39 
CATS. 
2 SO 00 
4 Ifi 4-2 
1 £6 4-2 
1 45 47 
2 20 00 
4 20 ."it! 
2 00 66 
1 43 57 
ONE RATERS 
2 .30 00 
4 01 J6 
1 31 16 
1 31 16 
a 30 00 
4 03 20 
1 m 29 
1 c3 29 
A big banquet was given the defeated yachtsmen by their 
victors, and the White Bear men showed them-elves as well 
able to entertain their guests as to sail their yachts. Some 
sixty-odd gentlemen sat at table. 
THE FELKEB CHALLENGE CUr. 
In 1885 Mr. C. W, Felker, of Oshkosh, Wis., made dona- 
tion of a challenge cup to be sailed for annually by Lake 
Winnebago yachts as a perpetual challenge cup. This year 
the deed of gift was amended by Mr. Felker in .such way that 
hereafter the competition shall be open to all yachts of the 
United States. Minerva, of Fond Da Lac, has won the cup 
three different years. During the last twelve years winners 
of this cup in the annual regatta have been as follows: 
Aug. 39, 1885— Cutter yacht Hattie. 
July 17, 1886— Sloop Pinafore 
July 30, 1887— Sloop Carrie Morgan. 
July as, 188S-Sloop Minerva 
Aug. 9. 1889— Sloop Minerva. 
July 25, 1890-Sloop Marguerite. 
July 25, 1891— Sloop Carrie Morgan. 
July 16 and 29, 1893— Sloop Carrie Morgan. 
Aug. 29, 1893— Sloop Marguerite. 
Julv 28; 1894— Sloop Minerva. 
Aug 10, 1895— Sloop Nirvana. 
Sept. 12, 1896— Sloop Corona. 
Aug. 21, 1897— Sloop Corona. . 
MATCH BETWEEN FOX LAKE AND DELAY AN, 
Early in September there will be a match race sailed for a 
cup trophv, between the winning boats of the season re- 
spectively for Fox Lake, Illinois and Delavan Lake, Wiscon- 
sin, This is in l-raters, and will bring together Mabelle, cup 
witiner for 1897 at Fox Lake, and El Capitan, leader iu the 
Delavan races. The race between these will be sailed on the 
course customary at Delavan Lake. Mabelle was modeled 
and built by Mr, Albert Church Bower, of Waukegan, and 
is owned by the Bald Eagle Club of Fox Lake. Theodore 
Poekel, of Racine, designed and built El Capitan for her 
present owner, Mr. F. D, Montgomery. The race will be for 
a $100 cup. 
COLTTMBIA T, C. OF CHICAGO. 
At the club regatta of Columbia Y. C, Aug. 31, following 
was the time in the different classes: 
CLASS A. 
Start. Finish. Elapsed. Corrected. 
Vanecna 2 10 20 4 18 2 17 58 2 17 68 
CbarlotieR 2 OS 15 Withdrew. 
CLAFS B 
BladP 2 06 20 4 47 30 2 4M0 24110 
GenevieVe 2 07 50 5 25 00 3 17 10 3 16 16 
CLASS C 
Wizird 2 10 50 5'5il2 3 42 52 8 42 52 
Ailine .....2X6 10 Disabled. 
Mvrine.'.'.'.'."...*..i,.r.i...8 07 f5 Did not finish. 
CLASS D 
Atlantic ,...2 11E0 3 45 15 1.33 55 1 33 61 
B ■ 2 II 3.) 4 OS 50 1 57 1 50 13 
Mici-oVe"" ' 2 13 05 8 45 :J5 1 M 31 1 28 40 
Vanity 2 12 '5 3 50 2a 1 i;7 40 
Atom...".'.'." -2 11 40 Capsized. 
Arrow.. 2 12 03 8 49 50 
Blade and Vanenna are fin-keels, both designed by Myers, 
and interest always arises when they sail together, Vanenna 
giving Blade a goodly time allowance. E, Hough. 
1206 BoYCE Bdilding, Chicago. 
Vigilant and Navahoe. 
The regular racing of the 30 footers at Newport for two 
seasons promises to develop into a permanent and organized 
system of racing about this summer resort which, though 
long known as a great yachting center, has seen compara- 
tively little racing apart from the annual cruise of the New 
York Y. C, 'The racing ovvner.^i, mostly in the 80ft. class, 
have organized an association, and races were given last sea- 
son. They have recently arranged for a special match, for a 
§250 subscription cup, between Vigilant and Navahoe, to be 
sailed on Saturday, Sept. 4. The race is in the hands of 
Messrs. H. B, Duryea, R. N. Ellis and Woodbury Kane, who 
have announced the following conditions: Start, at 11 A. 
M., upon a range between two marks flying an American 
yacht ensign. One gun, start. Yachts to pass from the 
northward to the southward in starting and from the south- 
ward to the northward in finishlDg. 
j^o, 1— Warning signal, a blast of the whistle of fifteen 
seconds duration vrill be given and a white flag, with the 
number upon it, denoting the coui'se as numbered below, 
will be hoisted. 
j^o_ 3—11:05 A. M., preparatory whistle blown and white 
flag with letter G thereupon hoisted. 
ls[o. 3—11:10 A. M.. start. Whistle blown and blue flag 
hoisted. 
Should the condition of weather render expedient the post- 
ponement of the start, code flag B will be hoisted, and sub' 
sequently the warning signal will be given, only upon the 
even hours and half hours. 
Should it be deemed advisable, the committee may declare 
the race finished with the completion of one or more rounds, 
in which case the hoisting of code flag B will indicate that 
the race is to be terminated with the round then being 
sailed. 
RECALL StGKALB. 
1. Navahoe. 
2. Vigilant. 
MARKS. 
Mark 1 — At the north we.«terly end of starting line. 
Mark 3 — At the southeasterly end of starting line. 
Mark 3— Narragansett Pier Life-Saving Station bearing 
west, distant miles. Whale Rock Light bearing north- 
east by north, distant % mile. 
Mark 4 — Beaver Tail Light bearing northeast by north, dis- 
tant 1% miles. Brenton's Reef Lightship bearing east, dis- 
tant IJt' miles. 
Mark 5— Brenton's Reef Lightship bearing northwest '»y 
north, distant 1% miles. 
cohrses. 
No. 1— From a starting line around mark No. 4, thence 
Ri'ound mark No. 5, thence to starting line around mark 
No. 1; all marks to be left to port. Yachts mu.st keep to 
the westward of Brenton's Reef Lightship and the Butter 
Ball Bell Buoy, both going and returning. Three times 
around. 
No. 3— From starting line around mark No. 5, thence 
around mark No. 4, thence to starting line and around 
mark No. 1; all marks must be left to starboard. Yachts 
must keep to the westward of Brenton's Reef Lightship 
and the Batter Ball Bell Buoy, both going and returning. 
Three times around. 
From the starting line around Beaver Tail Bell Buoy, 
leaving it to port; thence around Brenton's Reef Lightship 
thence around Beaver Tail Bell Buoy, leaving it to star- 
board; thence to starting line and around mark No. 1, leav- 
ing it to port. Three times around. 
No. 4 — From starting line around mark No. 3, thence 
around mark No. 5, thence aroimd mark No. 1, leaving all 
marks to port, keeping to eastward of Beaver Tail Bell Buoy 
and westward of Brenton's Reef Lightship, both going and 
coming. Three, times around. 
No. 5— From starling line around mark No. 5. thence 
around mark No. 3, thence around mark No. 1, leaving all 
marks to starboard, keeping to westward of Brenton's Reef 
Lightship and eastward of Beaver Tail Bell buoy, both going 
and coming. Three times around. 
No. 6— From starting line around Beaver Tail Bell Buoy, 
thence around mark No. 5, thence starting line and around 
mark No. 1, leaving all marks to port, and keeping to the 
westward of Butter Ball Bell Buoy. Three times around. 
No. 7— From starting line around mark No. 5, thence 
around Beaver Tail Bell Buoy, thence to starting line and 
around mark No. 1, leaving all marks to starboard, and 
keeping to the westward of Butter Ball Bell Buoy. Three 
times around. 
-New Tork T. R. A. Regatta. 
The New York Yacht Racing Association will hold its 
ninth annual regatta on Monday, Sept. 6, open to yachts of 
the following club-j, constituting the Association: Audubon, 
Hiidson River, Newark, Bayooue, New Jersey A. C, Pavonia, 
Columbia, Jersey City, Tappan Zee, Yonkers Corinthian, 
New York A. C, Yonkers, Gravesend Bay, Kill von Kull, 
Tower Ridge, Greenville and Nyack Boating Associaliou. 
The conditions are: 
Only boats numbered according to Article II, of the by- 
laws of the N. Y. Y, R. A. may compete, and all boats ap- 
pearing with associmion numbers or Y. R. U. of Long Island 
Sound up will be timed, even though no previous notice is 
sent in. But those desiring to participate are requested to 
send in notice to secretary of committee early, in order to 
facilitate the work of the judges. 
The turning marks or buoys of all courses are to left on 
port hand in turning. 
Course 1 — From start line to and around Craven Shoal 
Buoy (black and red horizontal stripes), located E N.E dis- 
tance mile from Hoffman Island; thence to and around 
Swash Channel (red) Bell Buoy, located l}i miles N.W., % 
W. from Romer Shoal Light; thence to starting line. (Once 
around is 11 miles. See classification list for how many times 
it is to be sailed over ) 
Course 3— From start line to and around Black Can Buoy 
No. 13, located M of a mile S, by E. from Port Tompkins*; 
thence to and around Black Can Buoy No, 11, located about 
}{ of a mile E,N,E from Swinburne Island; thence to start 
line. (Once around is 7 miles; see classification list for how 
many times it is to be sailed over.) 
Course 3— From start line to and around a mark designated 
by a red and whitfe flag ^jlaced about loOf t. west of the end of 
the Government Dock, situated at the southern limits of the 
Fort Hamilton slope; thence to and around the moored 
Street Department scow, located about half-way between 
Coney Island Point and Ulmer Park, thence to start line. 
(Should scow be removed a red and white flag mark will be 
placed there. Once around is 3)4 miles; see classification list 
for how many times to sail over course.) 
The classes and courses are: 
Schooners — Class A, all schooners 40ft. and over. — Twice, 
over Course 1 (22 miles). Start Signal, white flag. 
Cabin Sloops and Cutters— Twice over Course 1 (22 miles). 
—Class B, all 62ft. and over o3ft,; Class C, all 53ft. and over 
45ft.; Class D, all 45ft. and over38Et.; Class E, all 38ft. and' 
over 33tt.; Class F, all 33£t. and over 27ft. 
Class G, all 37ft. and under; Class H, aU yawl-rigged 
yachts. Three times over Course 3 (21 miles). 
Open Jib and Mainsail— Three times over Course 3 (31 
miles).- Classl, all 33ft, and over 27ft.; Class 2, all 37ft. and 
over 23ft. 
Class 3, all 23ft. and under, twice over Course 2 (14 miles). 
Cabin Cat-Rigged — Class 4, all over 23ft., three times over 
Cotxrse 3 (21 miles). Class 5, all 23ft. and under, twice over 
Courses (14 miles). 
Open Cat-Rigged and Half- Raters— Class 6, all 32ft. and 
over 27ft, and Class 7, all 37ft. and over 23ft., three times' 
over Course 2 (21 miles). 
Class 8, all 23ft. and over 20ffc., and Class 9, all 30ft. and 
over 17ft., twice over Course 2 (14 miles). 
Class 10, all ]?ft. and under, and Class 11, all half-ratera, 
three times over Course 3 (10 miles). 
Hobe Sound Y. C. 
HoBF. Sound, Fla , Aug. 18 —The fifth race of the Hobe 
Soimd Y. C.'s pri/.e series was sailed to-day. The wind wai 
light from the S. E , and the time was slow. Sprogie out- 
footed and outpointed everything in her class, but lost first 
place on time allowance. ' 
Juanita went over the course alone in the second class,, 
but was disqualified. Her .skipper evidently didn't know 
port from starboard, for he passed every buoy wrong, and 
finally wound up by tying a knot in the starting line. Hf 
said he didn't tie any knot in any line, for some one hac 
taken down the starting line and he could not find it. 
FJRST CLASS. 1 
Start, 2:33: Istround. Finisb. Elapsed. Corrected. Points 
Weuouah. 0 41 2d 0 4:^00 124^8 11142 3 
Sprogis.i.. 0 87 :fe7 0 39 35 1 17 02 1 17 02 a 
Francis.... 0 49 32 0 47 10 1 36 42 1 25 42 1 
SECOND CLASS. 
Start, S:30: FiLisb. Elapsed. Corrected Points 
Juanita....,..,. 8 22 68 0 68 58 Dlsquftlifled. 
