Kor. 13, 1891] 
FOREST AND STREAM. 
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was in Chicago this week, and called at the FobBst and 
Stream office. I was so unfortunate as to miss hiw, nor 
could 1 ever find him afterward, although he seems to have 
hung around Chicago for several days. He also called on 
Roll Organ, but missed him, leaving no word where he 
could be found, excepting that he was "stopping on State 
street, and that he was going to move over on Oakwood 
boulevard." This description covers some thirty odd miles 
of territory and a good many thousands of people and habi- 
tations, but Mr. Organ and I are going to canvass both State 
street and Oakwood boulevard in the hopes of restoring Mr. 
Foster to his friends. We do not yet know whether he has 
gone back to New Orleans, but if so he has committed a 
grave breach of decorum. 
Louisiana Hunting Wanted. 
Mr. A. T. Barnum, of Toledo, O., wishes to know about 
Louisiana hunting, as per the following letter: 
"As I contemplate making a hunting and fishing trip to 
the South in January, I would like to get some information 
about the country around Morgan City in St. Mary, St. 
Martin and Assumption counties in Louisiana. Any informa- 
tion regarding accommodations, boats, guides and game will 
he thankfully received." 
I am unacquainted -with the points specifically mentioned, 
hut think they would be good for the purposes named. I 
wish some Southern' sportsman would furnish the desired 
information. E. Hoogh. 
1206 BoYCE BuiLDiNS, Chicago. 
NORTH CAROLINA QUAIL. 
At our request, the Passenger Department of the Southern 
Railway has furnished the Fobest and Stream the follow- 
ing useful information about the season's quail supply in 
North Carolina. An examination of the original letters 
from which the extracts are taken, leads us to believe that 
the reports here given are truthful and reliable. The notes 
come from the Southern's local agents, and all are fresh 
October reports. For convenience, we give in each instance 
the distance in hours from New York. 
Reidsvit,le (14 hours from New York). — There are 
more partridges than were ever known helore. No 'dogs 
for hire. All lands were posted by an act passed at last Leg- 
islature, requiring all hunters to have written permission 
from owner of land before hunting. Any violation, of this 
act punished with fine of $5 and costs for first offense. 
However, permission can be obtained on good hunting 
grounds at small cost, such as paying land tax or |5 for the 
season. A great many land owners aiake no charge. 
N. C. Thompson. 
Jamestown (15 hours). — There is a good supply of birds. 
I am told by reliable persons that there are more than for 
several years, and that they are well-grown. There is 
no hotel here, but huntsmen would not experience any 
difficulty in finding boarding-houses, provided they 
reached here in daylight. There are no dogs or teams for 
hire, but could be very easily gotten from High Point. 
Am told there are several gangs of turkeys, with ten or 
twelve in each. Lands are not generally posted. Will 
gladly aid any sportsman ajl in my power. 
W. J. Clifton. 
High Point (15 hours).— Birds plentiful. Shooting 
privileges granted visiting sportsmen. Teams and dogs at 
low prices. F. N. Tate, 
NEWELts (16^ hours). — Partridges are reported more 
plentiful than for several years. 'The lands are generally 
posted, but 1 think arrangements for hunting could be 
made for very little cost. No hotels, but parties could 
engage board at private houses. No dogs that are well 
trained, E, C. Walker. 
Charlotte (17 hours). — ^In Mecklenburg county the 
season opens Nov. 15 and extends until Feb. 1. The birds 
are more plentiful, larger and fatter than they have been 
known to be in years. The majority of the lands are 
posted, but hunting will be allowed for the asking. Quite 
a number of the farmers take sportsmen at a very low 
rate and allow them the use of their lands and dogs free. 
T. J, WiTHEESPOON. 
China Grove (17 hours). — There is plenty of good hunt- 
ing territory in this county. Partridges are very plentiful. 
There are no dogs, A great many farmers have their land 
posted, but most of them are reasonable if properly ap- 
proached and permission is obtained. This neighborhood 
has been visited but little by hunters. I think any one or 
party wanting to come here to "hunt will be pleased with 
territory they will find, and willhave no troublein finding 
local hunters, who will accompany them to the best grounds 
to hunt. J. A. Thoem. 
Kings Mountain (IS hours). — Partridge very plentiful. 
The land is not generally posted. There are very few first- 
class dogs, and would suggest that sportsmen bring dogs 
with them. W. T. Bradford. 
Bessemer City (19 hours). — Am advised that a large 
number of partridges are to be found. Last season a num- 
ber of bird hunters from the North stopped here and re- 
ported good luck. They brought dogs with them, although 
there are fine dogs to be had here for the asking. The 
land is not posted. M. I. Sholar. 
Belmont (19 hours). — Birds are very plentiful. Some 
lands posted; others are not. W. B. Pubtt. 
Newton (18 hours). — From my observations and all re- 
ports, game is more plentiful, especially quail, than has 
been Icnown in many years. 'This is the regular meeting 
point for the Eastern Field Trials Club, also the irnited 
States Field Trials Club. They begin their next meeting 
on Nov. 14, and will last about fifteen days. The fact that 
this is their meeting ground should not be taken as to 
mean that they will do the hunting; for, on the contrary, 
they kill very few birds while their trials are going on. 
They usually scatter out to diiierent places to do their 
shooting. The hunting grounds are in close reach of the 
town. E. T. Burton. 
Connelly Springs (18 hours). — Birds very plentiful. 
Lands free to hunt on. Not posted. Good hunting 
grounds. Fine place here for sportsmen. 
B. B. Abernathy. 
BRroaEWATEK (19 hours). — Partridges are very plentiful. 
Land not generally posted. Hotel and livery accommoda- 
tions are poor. No dogs for hire. W. E. Angel, 
Old Port (20 hours). — Supply of partridges is very large. 
Birds are more plentiful than for several years previous. 
Lands are generally posted, but can usually be hunted on 
by the asking permission or for a small fee. No dogs here, 
L. F. Long. 
MoRGANTOwN (19 hours).— Birds seem to be exceedingly 
plentiful. Mr. E, Frisard is the leding sportsman, and can 
furnish trained dogs, and generally accompanies all 
hunters and shows them all attention possible. There Is 
very little, if any, objections to allowing visiting sports- 
men to hunt on any of the lands. J. W. Wilson. 
Marshall (23 hours).— The birds are very plentiful, al- 
though the hunting grounds are considerably rough, and 
some of the land is posted, though not all. Dogs cannot 
be had, C. S. Fullbright. 
Marion (20 hours). — Birds are plentiful; plenty of hunt- 
ing grounds. We have no dogs to hire, but there are sev- 
eral private dogs in town. G. E. Lee. 
SwANNA (21 hours). — Birds are plentiful; good country 
to hunt in; hotel accommodation inferior; very few dogs 
right around here. Some land posted, but not as a general 
thing. J. M. Deal. 
Eandlemann (near High Point).— Birds are more plenti- 
ful than for several years— very abundant. The land is 
posted to some extent, but enough left for good hunting. 
No dogs can be procured, but if dogs are brought by sports- 
men, facilities are all right for taking care of them. 
E. A. Wiles. 
New London. — Bird hunting here is good; guides, dogs 
and board can be obtained cheap; no posted land, 
J. B, Bdmhart, 
Burlington (309 miles from Washington). — From what 
information I can gather, the supply of partridges seems 
to be plentiful. The conditions for visiting sportsmen are 
very convenient. Some of the land posted, but not all. 
Sportsmen generally find good sport. J. 0. Holt. 
Chapel Hill (343 miles from Washington).— Birds are 
extraordinarily plentiful. The land is in most part open 
and very favorable to hunting; a small per cent, of it is 
posted, and permission to hunt can generally be obtained. 
Wild turkeys are also very numerous. Quite a number of 
hunters from the North have already appreciated the 
advantages of this place as a resort for sportsmen, and 
make yearly visits during the season. Guides who know 
the country thoroughly can be employed. Well trained 
dogs, however, are scarce. B. E. Teague. 
Durkam (343 miles from Washington).— There are 
plenty (tf partridges. The time for hunting them is be- 
tween Nov, 1 and Feb. 15, All the lands, however, on 
which birds can be found have been posted, and it is im- 
possible to hunt on these lands without permission from 
the owners. This permission can, in most instances, be 
obtained by personal appUcation to the land-owner before 
any hunting is done. There are no dogs to be had for 
hire. The hunting grounds can be reached in a distance 
of three to ten miles from Durham. J. A, White, 
East Durham (344 miles from Washington), From all 
sources I am informed that there are more partridges than 
there has been for years. A good deal of the land is 
posted, but I understand this is done mainly to prohibit 
negroes from hunting at will. There are no accommoda- 
tions here, but, being only two miles from Durham, parties 
could easily come out from there and return same after- 
noon. J. T. Busbee. 
Rockwell, — There have been only few bird hunters in 
this vicinity at all, which makes it all the better. Birds 
are plentiful. J. W. Peele. 
Trinity (near High Point).— There are three lodges 
nearby belonging to sportsmen. They have some land 
posted. There is land not posted, where hunting is al- 
lowed. Prices for teams and dogs reasonable. 
A. C. English. 
Lyons (near Durham).— There are plenty of birds in this 
section. A large portion of the lands directly on the rail- 
road is posted, but the best hunting grounds are not, and 
are only a short way from the railroad, say one mile. 
There is no hotel at this place, but huntsmen can get ac- 
commodation at a reasonable price; can also secure teams, 
etc. W. T. Robertson. 
Stem (near Durham), — We have an abundant supply of 
quail. Conditions for sportsmen good. Mr. Mayes makes 
special arrangements ahead for hunting privilege. Lands 
posted in some instances, but he gets option on the choice 
grounds for game and the most desirable places for sports- 
men. Guide and dog can be obtained at $1.50 per day. 
Guides are gentlemen and sportsmen of our community. 
L. M. Crymes. 
Clemmonsville (near Winson Salem). — There are more 
birds this year than were ever known. This county has a 
special bird law. The whole county is posted in regard to 
hunting. Permission must be obtained before parties are 
allowed to hunt in Forsyth county. Z. H. Cotner. 
Advance (near West Salem). — Plenty of birds; good 
shooting grounds; some lands are posted. Land-owners will 
grant shooting permission if advised. I do not think there 
would be any trouble. No dogs here that can be hired; 
all other arrangements very good. G. A. Allison. 
MocKsviLLE (near West Salem). — Birds are said to be 
more plentiful than for several years, owing to the excel- 
lent summer for raising. Guide and dog cost $1.50 per 
day. Dog alone, 50 cents, B. L. Ballinger. 
Elkin (392 miles from Washington). — Birds are more 
plentiful than ever before. The lands are posted. Messrs. 
Reece & Swaim have leased a large body of land near El- 
kin, on which they guarantee plenty of birds, and will 
furnish their terms', etc, on application. W. E. Paul. 
WiLKESBORo (391 miles from Washington). — From all 
we can learn, there is a great number of birds. Visiting 
sportsmen are allowed to hunt on a majority of land- 
owners' property, although some posted. Dogs are rather 
scarce and hard to obtain. E. G. Sherrill. 
Bryson City (542 miles from Washington). — There are 
plenty of birds. Sportsmen are allowed to hunt, with but 
lew exceptions. They will find some land posted, but as a 
general thing they can hunt most anywhere they wish. 
No dogs to be had, except one or two here, and they belong 
to parties who hunt occasionally, but might possibly loan 
or rent them. J. L. Mathews. 
Skyland (near Asheville). — Hunting will be splendid, 
especially for partridges, etc. Good accommodations here 
for visiting sportsmen. Little or no objection to hunting 
by land-owners. Living good and reasonable. Splendid 
dogs in neighborhood, C, 0. Cask. 
MooRESviLLB.--Hunting grounds about three or four 
miles from town. Bird supply is plentiful. The most of 
the land is posted, but visiting sportsmen could make sat- 
isfactory arrangements to hunt. No bird dogs here for 
hire. C. E, Hawthorn. 
Taylorsyillb (382 miles from Washington). — Partridges 
are extraordinarily plentiful. Are found in large coveys 
near town. The birds are nearly grown now. A great 
deal of the land is posted, but satisfactory arrangements 
can be made with owners for privilege of hunting the 
birds on their lands. This has been the custom here for 
some time. We have always had some sportsmen here 
every winter from New York and New Jersey, and will 
have this season again, Mr. R, F, Cobb, a sportsman, 
owns ten trained bird dogs. P. L. Steck. 
I have shot over nearly all of western North Carolina, 
and Alexander county is the best territory I have struck 
yet. Quail, rabbits and squirrels are unusually plentiful 
this season, and a good sprinkle of turkeys on the hills. 
Territory or privileges can be had without much trouble 
or expense. R. F. Cobb. 
A HEAVY DEER. 
Editor Forest and Stream: 
The largest deer killed so far in the Adirondack Moun- 
tains this year, was one brought down by Mr. W. W. Has- 
tings, treasurer of the New York Standard Watch Com- 
pany, at 11 Pine street, this city. The animal weighed 
SlOlbs., and was killed on Oct. 22. 
Mr. Hastings went to Fourth Lake on Oct. 17, and over 
the mountain to Kimball's on horseback, beginning to 
hunt on the 18th at Little Plains, on Moose River. His 
guide was Arthur Delmarsh, well known throughout that 
region as one of the best camp and field guides of the 
country, being a good hunter, cook, etc. 
The men were alone, and came down to the foot of the 
upper Stillwater in a boat, and packed their duffle down 
to Beecher's old camp at the head of the Little Plains still- 
water. The men still-hunted all over Little Plains, which 
is simply a big burning with hills and gullies, covered with 
ferns, cut by a couple of alder-banked brooks, and with 
occa&ional evergreen tree-grown swamp. 
On Thursday night it rained hard, and in the morning 
the trees and ferns hung wet and glistening. Under foot 
the ground was noiseless, almost, to a hunter's footsteps. It 
was a day to make a still-hunter smile broadly. Delmarsh 
told Hastings on Friday morning to make his way down 
to the Red River, one of the plains brooks, and at the 
forks, where a little stream comes in to it, to take his stand 
on a knoll where he could cover both streams. Delmarsh 
waited three-quarters of an hour and then struck back from 
Beecher's camp, and when he got to the knoll on which 
Hastings was to stand in line like gunsights between two 
hills, between which the tributary of Red River runs, he 
started down with much crashing of brush toward the 
knoll. 
Delmarsh had not waited long enough. He started the 
deer and it came out of the brush before Mr, Hastings had 
his breath back from his exertion. It was a deer, too, to 
take a man's breath just to look at, without any previous 
exertions to assist. But no matter. The deer was there, 
anywhere from 70 to 150yds, distant. Its yellow horns 
looked like twigs over a log, and Mr. Hastings opened on 
it with his .38-55. The first shot dropped the deer's horns 
by breaking both hindlegs; the next staggered it by pass- 
ing just under the backbone. Then Mr. Hastings went 
down the knoll, leaping whatever happened to be in 
his way, and as the deer faced him, tore the animal's 
heart in two at short range. 
It well nigh tuckered the men to get the beast to the 
river. It was a hard pull to get it to Kimball's, and the 
horse that toted it over the ridge to Fourth Lake wished 
itself dead, no doubt. The expressmen at the railroad sta- 
tion, and the hunters thereabouts, united in saying it was 
a lunger, a buster, an old socker, an old booster, and a 
whale. 
Those who maintain that there are two species of big 
deer in the Adirondacks will find more fuel in this one. 
Its legs were short — shorter than, a fawn's in the fall. Its 
body was long, broad and very deep. The horns were 
small, about as large around as a man's thumb, but they 
spread 1/in. at the widest. The tips of the guards and of 
two or three of the prongs had been broken off, probably 
in love contests. The neck was much swelled, too. 
The deer was killed within a mile of where I killed my 
big buck on Sept. 11, of which the Forest and Stream 
told on Oct. 2. Raymond S. Spears. 
New York. 
The Stretched-out Arm Fad. 
Editor Forest and Stream: 
In my younger days, many long years ago, one of my 
shooting compmions was the late Cbief Justice Beasley, of 
New York, and allhou(?h I have shot with nearly as many 
men as Mather has fished with, he was the only one for 
whom I had unbounded admiration as a soortsman; for, be- 
side his many accomplish meats, he was one of the most 
agreeable companions that I ever went in the field with. We 
were aoout equally skillfal in bieging birds, but he was so 
perfectly cool, and handJed his guu so sracefully that I was 
often willing to forego the pleasure of taking a shot for tue 
sake of watching him. One of our modern prc'essionaja, 
with his arm stretched out, as if trymg to reach the muzzle 
of his gun, would have given a shock to his sense of gr-ice in 
HC'ion. Of all the "fads" of the present day, this one 
among club shooters is, to my uneducated mind, the most 
absurd, not even excepting the now abandoned one of shak- 
ing hands in the upper air. 
If the claim that the shooter has better control of his gun 
could be proved, it would be an item in support of its awk- 
wardness, but all the club men in the country could not 
make me believe it. 
It may be asserted that all the famous match shots have 
adopted it, but what of that? We seldom hear of a match 
at double birds, and there is very little show of skill where 
the shooter uses both barrels at a single bird. I was never a 
trap-shooter, but resorted to it once when a young man to 
see what I could do against a famous shot whom I met at 
Cincinnati. In the test we tied on eighteen out of twenty 
double birds, and we did it without resorting to the stifl:- 
arm principle; which -will probably answer as a bit of proof 
that It is not absolutely necessary to success in scoring. 
The club men have an undoubted light to adopt a ridicu- 
lous rule if they see fit, but I shall claim the right to ridi- 
cule it till they convince me that I am wrong. Didymus. 
Bt. -^aDBTOfE, Fla., Nov. 1, 
