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Mr. Dowsett asked if the area in question near Lanpahoehoe is 
government land and where the forest reserve line runs. 
Mr. Hosmer answered that the Hilo forest reserve was one of 
the earlier ones to be set apart but that, in the absence of any one 
who could efficiently look after it, trespass from cattle had been 
continually going on. For a large part of the way the mauka 
boundary of the Hilo forest reserve follows the fence built by 
Mr. W. H. Shipman, across government and private lands. Mr. 
Shipman has been killing off the wild cattle below the fence, but 
at the west end of the reserve, above Lanpahoehoe, the cattle 
nominally belonging to Mr. Meyers have had free run. The 
object of the present proposition is to restrict the cattle above Lau- 
pahoehoe to a relatively small fenced enclosure instead of letting 
them run throughout the entire forest. 
Mr. Campbell said that Mr. Davies’ proposition is made in en- 
tirely good faith. The condition as it exists today is that the 
government cannot keep Mr. Meyers off these lands, because 
there is no forest fence and no forest rangers. The plantation 
offers to corral the cattle and requests the government to assist 
in building the necessary fence. Mr. Campbell thought that the 
Board might well spend a few hundred dollars in building this 
fence. 
Mr. Dowsett asked if the portion of the land of Maulua included 
in the forest reserve had not been condemned and the right of 
ownership given over to the government? 
Mr. Hosmer said that nothing of that kind had been done and 
that, as a matter of fact, the action now proposed to be taken 
would do more for the protection of the forest than the govern- 
ment had been able or could now do unaided. 
After further discussion in which it appeared to be the sense 
of the members that, if possible, the private land in this reserve 
ought to be turned over to the Board, it was voted that the mat- 
ter be referred back to the Superintendent of Forestry for fur- 
ther conference with Davies & Company, pending action on their 
part of turning oyer to the Board the management of the land 
of Maulua, in which case the Board of Agriculture and Forestry 
will construct the necessary fence. 
GATHERING OF AWA. 
In the matter of granting rights to gather awa in one of the 
forest reserves on Maui, for which application had been made by 
a Hawaiian, a letter from Mr. Hosmer covering one from Mr. 
W. F. Pogue was read by Mr. Campbell, in which Mr. Hosmer 
recommended that free use permits be granted freely to in- 
dividuals when the article to be obtained is to be used by that 
person, but that when the product is to be sold the Board should 
exact a fair price. It was voted that a general rule be adopted 
that awa and other forest products may be taken from the forest 
