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London, Jan. 31, 1898.— To B. Heckstall Smith, Esq., 
Secretary Yacht Racing Association, West Kensington. 
— Dear Sir: Your letter of 22d inst.: I beg to ac- 
knowledge its friendly expression, and the valuable in- 
formation it contains I feel will be received and appre- 
ciated by the North American Yacht Racing Union in 
the warmest possible manner; and it will give me the 
greatest pleasure reading its contents and reporting to 
the Council the results of my observations, and the 
knowledge obtained through your Association and its 
individual members on the practical working and type 
of racing yacht being developed in G. B. under your 
present formula, 
L. 4- B. ,K G. -i- .5 VsTA . 
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Your suggestion for us to adopt a rule, if not identical, 
at least moulded on similar lines to yours, and then, after 
a few years' experience, both organizations meet in 
conference to exchange ideas and experiences, appears 
to me to be a most practical way to bring about uni- 
formity of rule and type of racing yacht on both sides 
■of the Atlantic, 
I am returning at an early date, and will at once make 
my report to the Council, who in due course will, 
through our honorable secretary, Mr. Jones, address to 
you our official acknowledgment of the courtesies ex- 
tended to their committee, Mr. Macdonough and my- 
self. Meanwhile kindly accept our sincere appreciation, 
and believe me to be, yours ver}- faithfully, 
(Signed) .iEMixiLrs Jarvis, 
(Copy.) 
Yacht Racing Association, 2 Haarlem Mansions, 
West Kensington, West, Jan. 31, 1898. — ^Emilius Jarvis. 
Esq., 22 Abchurch lane, London, E. C. — ^Dear Sir: I 
am in due receipt of your favor of this date, which it 
will give me much pleasure to read to the Council at 
their next meeting. I am, dear sir, yours faithfully. 
Signed B, Heckstall Smittt, Sec'y. 
(Copy.) 
108 West Regent street, Glasgow, Jan. 28, 1898. — 
^milius Jarvis, Esq. — Dear Mr. Jarvis: I have been 
at it night and day since I saw you, and this must be my 
excuse for neglecting to write you before this, I, how- 
ever, now inclose midship sections of two racing boats 
and a fast cruiser, which I trust may be of use and in- 
terest to your friends. 
With regard to the centerboard question, I think our 
rule penalizes it out of existence, and that in framing any 
fule the .clause regarding the board would have to be 
modified. As for American waters, I think it a very 
necessary adjunct. You have a lot of harbors. accessible 
only for boats drawing under loft., and you cannot get 
sufficient depth for weatherly purposes in a boat of any 
size without more draft than this. Were I making 
any alteration in our rule, I would suggest easing up the 
penalty on girth. As the rule acts at present, you can 
put i^ft. of beam or i^ft. of length for the same penalty 
as ift. of draft. My feeling is that this encour- 
ages too much curtailment of draft — a dimension 
which gives the best type of stability, and is also neces- 
sary of course for weatherly purposes. This I say is my 
feeling for the rule over here, but with the American 
yachting ports you want as moderate draft as possi- 
ble, for there it might do very well as it stands. Yours 
very truly, 
(Signed) G. L. Watson. 
(Copy.) 
North Lodge, Alverstoke, Gosport, Feb. 3, 1898. — 
Dear Mr. Jarvis: In my previous letter to you of this 
evening I had not time to say anything about the sub- 
ject of your mission. As I said in the course of our 
conversation, it seems very much to be desired that the 
experts on both sides of the Atlantic should confer and 
make use of each other's experience when opportunity 
arrives, and in the meantime it is certainly desirable, 
in order that our experiences may be mutually profitable, 
that we should work on somewhat similar lines. If in 
America you could adopt your present rule, or some- 
thing similar to it, provisionally, the result would be 
very interesting and valuable, and not the less so if as 
you anticipate — and I think you are right — the same rule 
should lead to a somewhat different boat in the two 
countries owing to a difference in conditions. If our 
present rule were not adopted holus bolus, it occurs 
to me to suggest that a very interesting variat ion w ould 
be 4- B. + .75 G. simply, leaving the .5 i^S. A. out, 
and this would tend, I think, to produce more nearly 
the popular kind of craft in America, viz., a craft of 
larger cross sections, and more power of cross section 
relatively to length, than our present rule. For of course 
the power of taking more sail leads to increase in the 
hull qualities that make for sail carrying. 
Personally I should greatly welcome the adoption of 
such a rule in America. For I strongly hope myself that 
if we make any change in our rule we should take the 
opportunity of abolishing the sail tax, and the experience 
of the result of its abolition in America would be most 
valuable to us. 
It seem s to me that, taking the L. + B. -|- .75 -|- 
•S »^S. A. as a starting point, dropping the .5 /S. A. 
out, would be very closely equivalent to intro- 
duciiig K. f^Vi. S. with a negative sign in the division, 
and if so would be an immensely more simple way of 
producing the same effect. It would be doing away with 
one complicated measurement, instead of introducing 
another in addition. 
Then again, I think there is a pretty general feeling 
among those — here — ^who approve of the present rule 
and approve of a small sail tax in principle that the 
present sail tax — i. e., in our present rule — ^is too light 
to produce any effect worth having in the way of pro- 
moting snug sail plans, and that from that point of view 
we have all the bother of sail measurement for next to 
nothing. Yet if you keep the B. .75 G. a nd inc rease 
the S. A. tax — i. e., put say /S. A. vici .5 /S. A. — ^you 
will almost certainly get a longer and less powerful type 
of boat than is desired across the water. 
For my own part, though I personally prefer a boa.t 
that neither requires nor can carry a large press of sail 
relatively to length — I prefer an easily driven boat — it 
seems to me absurd for racing purposes that boats 
should not be allowed to take as tnuch sail as they can 
utilize to advantage, and therefore I am against all 
sail tax on principle. Believe me, yours very truly, 
R. E. Froude. 
(Copy.) 
Hotel Victoria, Monte Carlo, Feb. 3, 1898.— My dear 
Jarvis: Allow me to congratulate you heartily on the 
success of your efforts in England, and to thank you 
for your kindness in keeping my name forward in the 
negotiations. If I can be of any use later on, during 
the month of April, well and good. The final letter 
from the Council seems in my opinion to leave nothing 
to be desired. The basis for further negotiations being 
formed, it now only requires a little tact to keep both 
sides working in unison. Yours sincerely, 
(Signed) J. M. Macdonough. 
We are unable to reproduce in this issue the sections 
mentioned by Mr. Jarvis, but they will appear next week. 
Building on Lake Ontario. 
The order which Crowninshield has from R, H. Fenwick, of 
Chatham, Ont., is for a boat in the 32(t. class of the Yacht Racing 
Union of tlie Great Lakes, and will be 27ft. 6in. l.w.l., lift. 6in. 
beam and 5£t. draft, with a metal centerboard through the keel. 
The keel will be of iron, and weigh about 6,000lbs. The boat will 
have a cabin house 14ft. long and a roomy cabin, with 6ft. head 
room. Under the "waterline atid sail area" rule of tlie Union 
she will be allowed about l,300sq.ft. of sail, which will probably 
be carried in a jib and mainsail rig. 
In noting the order for the boat in these columns the writer 
said that she would have "quite heavy scantling mider the speci- 
fications drawn foi; the Union by W. P. Stephens." "Compara- 
tively heavy scantling" would perhaps have been a better phrase, 
since the lighter scantling of Boston built boats was in the 
writer's mind at the time. The Lake boat will by no means be 
an extra heavy one, and yet she will be heavier in several ways 
than even a strongly built cruiser here, to say trothing' of an out- 
and-out racer. 
Conforming strictly to the specifications of the Union, designer 
Crowninshield will give the new boat frames which will be l%in. 
square at the heel, 1%. at the turn of the bilge, and 1% at the 
head. These will be the frames for two-thirds of the length amid- 
ships, as required by the rules. At the ends of the boat the frames 
will be %in. smaller. The frames are spaced lOin. on centers. 
The nearest available comparison for these figures in a Boston 
boal is the Baker 30-footer of Crowninshicld's design, now prac- 
tically completed at Lawley's. This boat is confessedly a heaivily 
built boat, although she will be raced, for her owner insisted 
upon a tight boat as the first requisite. In the Baker boat the 
frames are of uniform size of l%in. square and are spaced lOin. 
on centers. 
In the matter of planking the Lake boat is the lighter, since 
but a thickness of but lin. finished is required, while the Baker 
boat has %in. more thickness in her double planking. In the 
keel, however, the balance is the other way. The Lake boat 
has a keel 4xl2in. Designer Crowninshield would make it at least 
a third lighter were he not restricted. 
The deck frame of the Lake boat is much the heavier. The 
deck beams at the partners, the bitts, the traveler, and at each 
end of the break in the deck for cabin house and cockpit will be 
2%x2%in., tapered to 2x2% at the ends. The other beams are al- 
lowed to vary from l%x2Vz to l%x2. In the Baker boat the big 
beams are 2y2x2^, while the others are l%x2%. 
The deck planking of the Lake boat will be %in., covered with 
canvas, while that on the Baker boat will be l%in., for the reason 
that it will be kept holystoned, and must therefore have extra 
thickness to allow for wear. The deck of a racing "thirty" 
would be much lighter. 
The foregoing figures show that the Lake restrictions compel 
more than the equivalent of a strongly built boat here, and yet 
the boats will probably be none too strong to stand the buffet- 
ing they are likely to get in the choppy seas of the Lakes. 
"Although I should build a racing boat for these or any odier 
waters considerably lighter were there no restrictions," said de- 
signer Crowninshield, in giving the figures, "I nevertheless think 
the Lake restrictions an excellent thing, and perfectly fair so 
long as everyone is compelled to build under them. 
"The specifications are specially good in their requirements 
for clamps, bilge strakes and other strengthening parts, but I 
think the deck frame a little too heavy, even for severe service. 
"Measurement rule and specifications together provide to give 
a very good type of the combined cruiser and racer, and I should 
not be surprised if we found ourselves compelled here in the East 
to adopt similar construction requirements." 
In all of which ideas the writer heartily concurs, except that 
which commends the "waterline and sail area" rule. That' is 
another question not now under discussion — M'^. B. Roiinson, 
Boston Globe. 
The Emperor's Cup. 
It is announced that the cup given this year by the German 
Emperor for the race from Dover to Heligoland will be a bowl 
of egg shape form and stand over 2ft. above its base. The de- 
sign was made by His Imperial Majesty, and has been much 
admired by the connoisseurs of Berlin. 
His Imperial Majesty's cup committee met at Grosvenor House, 
the residence of the Duke of Westminster, the Marquis of Or- 
monde, president, in the chair. The other members present were 
Sir Edward Sullivan, Bart.; Admiral Baron von Senden, A.D.C. : 
Sir Edward Birkbeck, Bart.; Prof. Busley, Lord Colville, of Cul- 
ross, Lord Inverclyde, Admiral von Eisendecken, Mr. Dixon 
Kemp, and Mr. Richard Grant, hon. secretary. At the request 
of the German Emperor the date for starting the match was fixed 
for Monday, June 20, at 2 P. M., from Dover, entries to close 
on June 1, at Cowes, with the hon. secretary, and the handicap 
to be made on June 3 by a subcommittee consisting of the 
Marquis of Ormonde, Prof. Busley, the Earl of Lonsdale, Mr. R. 
G. Allan, Baron von Eisendecken, Mr. Dixon Kemp, Sir E. Sulli- 
van and Mr. Richard Grant. It was directed that a vote of thanks 
should be sent to the Emperor for his continued support of yacht 
racing. The match will be open to cruising yachts of 50 tons 
Thames measurement and upward, the definition of a cruiser to 
be left to the subcommittee, with the understanding that a yacht 
which is capable of making a voyage shall be deemed a cruiser. 
The handicap is to be framed on the lines of that for the Royal 
Yacht Squadron's Queen's cup. 
As the match for the German Emperor's cup has been fixed to 
be started on Monday, June 20, instead of Tuesday, it is probable 
that Mr, Gordon Hodgkinson will have his matcli for the North 
Sea Cup started on Satttrday, June 18. — The Field. 
The Defense of the Seawanhaka Cup. 
WoRD^ has just been received from Lord Strathcona that he 
would like to take a more active part in the defense of the 
Seawanhaka international cup for small yachts than he has in 
the past, and through the medium of Mr. A. F. Riddell, vice- 
commodore of the Royal St. Lawrence Y. C, he has made known 
his desire to have a fast 20-footer built for the trial races. Mr. 
Duggan will design her and have full charge of building and 
the selection of the crew, and it is expected that work on her 
construction will shortly be commenced at the Royal St. Lawrence 
Y. C.'s sheds. 
Another gentleman, who will in a few days begin the construc- 
tion of a cup defender is Mr. Huntly Drummond, son of Senator 
Drummond. His boat is being designed by his brother, but will 
in all probability be built also in the Royal St. Lawrence Y. C. 
sheds. This, together with the brokers' boat, which has been 
started, and the boat for Mr, H. Montagu Allan, which has only 
been spoken of, makes the nucleus of what promises to be a 
very fair fleet of cup defenders. — Montreal Gazette, 
Atlantic Y. C. 
The Atlantic Y. C. has planned a lively season for its initial year 
at Sea Gate, and the- legatta comniittee has announced the fol- 
lowing events: 
Opening race, Decoration Day, May 30, special prize to win- 
ning yacht in each class; course 15 miles. 
Saturday, Jime 11, Gould cups, open to yachts of all clubs. The.ae 
prizes, presented by former Com. George J. Gould, are: First, 
for schooners in racing trim, value $500; second, for cutters and 
sloops in racing trim, value $300; third for the special 30ft. class, 
first prize a cup valued at $150, and the second prize $25; fourth, 
mainsail yachts; first prize a cup valued at $100, and the second 
prize $20. 
Schooners and cutters Will sail the outside course — ^around the 
Scotland and Sandy Hook lightship.s and return— distance 33 
miles. 
Tlie special 30ft. class and mainsail yachts will sail the course 
from Gravesend Bay, off the club house, to the Bell Buoy, off 
Sandy Hook, thence to Orchard Shoal Light and back, 20 miles. 
Annual regatta, Tuesday, June 14, open to yachts of all clubs, 
prizes to winning yacht in each class. 
Saturday, June 18, Adams cups races, open to yachts of all 
clubs. Prizes presented by Com. Frederick T. Adams: First, 
a cup for the special .30-footers, valued at $150; second prize $25. 
Second, a cup for cutters and sloops of classes J to N, of the 
value of $150; second prize $25. Third a cup for mainsail yachts, 
of the value of $100; second ])rize $15, Fourth, a cup for the dory 
class, of the value of $B0; .■second prize $10. 
Entries for races may be made to Col. David E. Austen, chair- 
man of the regatta comroiltee, A. Y. C, No. 67 Chambers street. 
New York. 
The Chicago Y. C. 
After some years of inaction, the old Chicago Y. C, organ- 
ized in 1875, has been revived, with the following officers for 1898: 
Com., W. P. Morgan; Vice-Corn., George R. Peare; Rear-Com., 
George' Warrington; Sec'y and Treas., Charles H. Tnorne; Board 
of Trustees: C. E. Kremer, James H. Chennon, Louis Wachsmuth, 
William I-Ierrick and the commodore, ex-officio. 
The fleet includes tlie following yachts: Schooner Idler, 107ft.; 
schooner Hawthorne, 65ft. class, 90ft. over all: schooner Mistral, 
65ft. class, .90ft. over all; sloop Siren, 44ft. class, 65it. over all: 
sloop Vanenna, 44ft. class, 65ft. over all; steamers Pathfinder, 
Sentinel, Thistle, Catherine C. and Wilber. 
One match has already been arranged within the club, the fol- 
lowing agreement having been signed: 
"We, the undersigned, of the sloop yachts Vanenna and Siren, 
do hereby agree to sail a series of best two in three races, under the 
auspices of the Chicago Y. C, the .said races to be sailed on or 
about July 9, 11, and 18, 1898, for Chicago Y. C. trophy and the 
championship of the club. This being a special regatta, we will 
each select a friend, the two to select a third. The three will form 
a committee to arrange all details of the race. 
Georgjs R. Peare, owner of Siren. 
W. R. Ckawfokd, owner of Vanenna. 
Mr. Crawford has cliosen Mr. Benjamin Carpenter, Mr, Peare 
has chosen Air. E. C. Berriman. 
Y. R. A. of Long Island Sound. 
The annual meeting of the Yacht Racing Association of Long 
Island Sound will be held on Monday ^ening, March 21, at the 
Fifth Avenue Hotel, New York. 
North American Yacht Racing Union. 
A MEETING of the Council of the North American V. R. U. 
will be held on Saturday, April 23, in the afternoon, at some place 
in New York, wMch will be announced later. 
YACHTING NEWS NOTES. 
The Columbia Y. G.j of New York, held its annual meeting 
on March 1, the following officers being elected: Com., Walther 
Luttgen, steam yacht Linta; Vice-Corn., W. Di.xon Ellis, naphtha 
Rambler; Rear-Com., W. C. Trageser; Sec,'y, George Parkhill; 
Treas., Joseph A. Weaver; Fleet Surgeon, Dr. Henry Griswold; 
Meas., W. F. Quackenbush; Members of the Board of Trustees, to 
serve for two years: J. F. Hitcficock, W. H. Carpenter and G. 
W. Tayler. The date of the opening of the club house was 
fixed for May 7 and the annual regatta for June 9. The club 
passed a resolution favoring the bill now before Congress pro- 
hibiting the defacement of the American flag by printing or 
painting pictures, advertisements, etc., on it. 
On March 1 a special meeting of the Riverside Y. C. was held 
at the Arena, New York, with Com. Tyson in the chair. The 
date of July 9 was named for the annual regatta, and a fall race, 
in September, was decided on. A proposal to reduce the annual 
dues from $25 to $20 was rejected. The shape of the officers' 
flags was changed from the swallowtail to the broad pennant. 
On March 1 the Greenville, N. J., Y. C. held its annual meet- 
ing, the following oflicers being elected, all for second terms: 
Com., Alfred Renshaw; Vicc-Com., Alex. Reid; Recording Sec'y, 
William Everett Hicks; h'inancial Sec'y, C. R. Sampson; Treas., 
Alfred Renshaw; Delegates to the New York Y. R. A.: .Qom. 
Renshaw, W. E. Flicks and C. J. Leach. 
A meeting of the regatta committee of the Indian Harbor Y. C. 
was held on March 2, the following programme being arranged for 
the summer: First regatta, Decoration Day, for tlie open class 
of knockabouts and one-design dory class. Second regatta, cir- 
cuit race, date to be arranged by the Y. R. A. of Long Island 
Sound. Third regatta, annual regatta, all classes, Saturday, July 30. 
Fourth regatta, fall regatta, Saturday, Sept. 3 (probably). The com- 
mittee has arranged for an open knockabout class, to include the 
Seawanhaka boats and all other knockabouts, centerboard or keel, 
carrying not over GOOsq.ft. of sail. Weekly races will be held 
for the one-design dory class, with a prize for each race, and also 
helmsman and record prizes for the season. 
Vigilant, cutter, Percy. Chubb, now hauled tip at Hawkins' yard. 
City Island, is having about eight tons of lead removed from the 
keel ; the change being made under the direction of H. C. Win- 
tringham. This lead is a part of that shifted from inside "to out- 
side in 1895, under Com. Gould's ownership. Since then the yacht 
has been fitted with full interior joiner work and furnishings 
for cruising, so that her immersion has been increased. The 
change will put her nearly at her old load waterline. 
The Musquito Fleet Y. C, of South Boston, has elected the 
following officers: Com., C. P. Mooney; Vice-Corn., W. H. Ran- 
som; Meas., A, H. Borden; Sec'y, J. M. Sullivan; Treas., C. J. 
DriscoU; Directors: Com. C. P. Mooney, Sec'y J. M. Sullivan, 
James Bertram, Thomas W. Flood and John A. De Lier. 
Naradar steam yacht, Henry Walters, arrived at St. Michael, 
Azores, from New York, on Feb. 17. 
AmeMcan Canoe Association^ 1897-98. 
Commodore, F. L. Dunnell, Brooklyn, N. Y. 
Sec'y-Treas., C. V. Schuyler, 309 Sixth avenue, Brooklyn, N, Y. 
Librarian, W, P. Stephens, Bayonne, N. J. 
PURSERS. 
Atlantic Division, Wm. M. Carpenter, Main street. Sing Sing, 
N. Y. 
Central Division, Laurence C. Woodworth, Gouverneur, N. Y. 
Eastern Division, F. J. Biurage, West Newton, Mass. 
Northern Division, Edgar C. Woolsey, 37 Charles street, Ottawa, 
Can. 
Annual dues, $1; initiation fee, $1, 
Western Canoe Association, J 895-96. 
Commodore, C. F. Pennewell, Detroit, Mich. 
Vice-Commodore, Nat. H. Cook, Chicago, 111, 
Rear-Commodore, E. H. Holmes, Milwaukee, Wis. 
Sec'y-Treas., W. D. Stearns, Detroit, Mich. 
Executive Committee: R. M. Lamp, Madison, Wis.; C. J. Stead- 
man, Cincinnati, C; F. W. Dickens, Milwaukee, Wis. 
