July 2, 1898.] 
FOREST AND STREAM. 
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New Jersey Coast Fishing:, 
Asbury Park, N. J., June 24. — Bass, and of large 
size, this has been the story from Deal Beach and 
Elberon the past week. Never have results been more 
satisfactory or fish finer in condition. To give a list of 
rods and fish would be well nigh impossible; the largest 
however, fell to the lot of Mr. Walter Davis this morn- 
ing; weight 3ilbs. One can well remember when the 
capture of such a fish on the delicate tackle now in 
use would have been deemed an impossible performance. 
Kingfish are fairly plentiful, and are now in the rivers 
and bays in quantities; weakfish too have put in our 
tidal streams, and are taking the hook. 
From Harvey's Cedars the best reports come. I ap- 
pend catches made at that point by my friend, Mr. L. P. 
Streeter, of Morristown, and Mr. H. W. Boyer, of Phila- 
delphia. I have known Mr. Streeter for years, and the 
fact is assured that not one of these, fish were allowed to 
go to waste, as in all cases he sees that they are put 
where they will do most good. 
Leonard Hui.ii . 
Harvey Cedars, N. J., June 19.— My Dear Mr. Hulit: 
I take it for granted that you have heard of the catch 
made by the Atkins party, of which I was a member. 
The following, a rather unusual score, was made after 
Mr. Atkins left the Cedars by Mr. Boyer and myself : 
June 16. 
Mr. Boyer — Nine bluefish, weighing 4olbs.; 2 striped 
bass, I2lbs. and I4lbs. each. 
Mr. Streeter — Fifteen bluefish, weighing 75lbs. 
June 17. 
Mr. Boyer — Twenty-five bluefish, weighing Q2lbs.; 2 
striped bass, 7lbs. and 22j41bs. each. 
Mr. Streeter — Twenty bluefish, weighing Solbs. ; a 
striped bass of /H'bs. ; a channel bass of 2ilbs. 
June 18. 
Mr. Boyer — Eight bluefish, weighing 22^1bs.; a 
striped bass of iS^lbs. 
Mr. Streeter — Fourteen bluefish weighing 3glbs. ; a 
striped bass- of 6^1bs.; a channel bass of 2ilbs. 
June 19. 
Mr. Boyer- — Eleven bluefish weighing 481bs. 
Mr, Streeter- — Six bluefish weighing 24;^ lbs.; a channel 
bass of iS^lbs. 
Recapitulation. 
Mr. Boyer — Fifty-three bluefish weighing 202j^lbs.; 
5 striped bass weighing 7ilbs. 
Mr. Streeter. — Fifty-five bluefish weighing 2i8j41bs.: 2 
striped bass weighing r^lhs.j 3 channel bass weighing 
6oj41bs, 
The above is a record catch for the Cedars, and will 
you kindly have it inserted in Forest and Stream. 
L. P. Streeter. 
Chicago Fly-Casters' Club. 
Chicago, June 25. — Editor Forest and Stream: The 
records of the club for last week and to-day arc as fol- 
lows, June 18 scores: 
Long Dis- Distance Bait 
tance Fly, and Acc'y, Casting, 
Feet. Per Cent. Per Cent. 
I. H. Bellows 106 .. 96 4-5 
C. Antoine .. 84 2-5 
L. I. Blackman .. 83 4-5 
C F Brown .. 70 1-3 
L F Crosby . . 85 4-5 
B W Goodsell 105 89 1-3 91 3-5 
L Goodwin 62 1-3 79 1-5 
H. G. Hascal 102 74 1-3 96 
N. C. Heston 70 2-3 95 
C. A. Lippincott 84 67 93 
C. G. Ludlow 94 78 1-3 83 4-5 
G. A. Murrell 62 2-3 93 2-5 
IL A. Newkirk 69 2-3 86 2-5 
F. N. Peet 110 80 1-3 71 
G. W. Salter 65 2-3 96 1-5 
J. E. Strong 100 
A. C. Smith 72 1-3 96 4-5 
Holders of Medals— Long distance fly, F. N. Peet; 
distance and accuracy, B. W. Goodsell; bait casting, a! 
C. Smith. 
The very high wind prevented a larger attendance and 
participation in last Saturday's events. The meet to- 
day was made memorable by the feats of Messrs. Peet, 
Goodsell and Ludlow, who broke the world's record in 
long distance fly-casting: 
Long Distance and Accuracy and Bait 
Distance and Acc'y, and Del'cy, Casting, 
- Fly, Feet. Per Cent. Per Cent. Per Cent. 
J. D. Belasco .. .. 78 1-5 
C. F. Brown; 75 77 1-3 .. 86 4-5 
F. B. Davidson. .. .105 .. .. 94 4-5 
B. W. Goodsell.... 122 91 1-3 96 
H. Greenwood ....... . . . . 92 3-5 
H. G. Hascal 115 85 1-3 
N. C. Heston 73 2-3 ,. 85 1-5 
E. R. Letterman.. 85 84 2-5 . 94 2-5 
C- G. Ludlow 122 93 93 1-2 83 5-8 
G. A. Murrell 95 85 1-3 
F. B. Orr 86 1-3 .. 92 1-5 
F. N. Peet 125 90 96 1-2 
H. W. Perce 87 1-3 . . 94 4-5 
G. W. Salter 84 sq q.r; 
A. C. Smith 83 81 .. 93 J| 
Holders of Medals— Long distance 'fry, Fred N. Peet; 
distance and accuracy, C. G. Ludlow; accuracy and deli- 
cacy, Fred N. Peet; bait casting, F. B. Davidson. 
'he Menml 
Fixtures. 
Sept. 7.— Manitoba Field Trials Club trials. William C. Lee 
!pec y, Winnipeg, Man. 
National Beagle Club. 
New York, June 20— An Executive Committee meet- 
ing of the National Beagle Club was held June 17 at 15 
Broad street, at 3:15 P. M. Present: Messrs. Post. Ap- 
pleton, Schellhas, Kernochan and Wharton. The report 
of the '98 Futurity Committee was accepted, ordered 
placed on file. It was voted that the report of the 
Committee on the Constitution, etc., be accepted, and 
notice given the members of the club of the proposed 
changes. 
Mrs. Jas. L. Kernochan and Mrs. H. P. Whitney were 
elected to membership. It was voted that the president- 
appoint the regular Field Trial Committee and sub-com- 
mittees. The following were appointed: 
Field Trial Committee — Messrs. Appleton (chairman), 
Schellhass, Wharton, Kernochan. Geo. B. Post, Jr., A, 
Wright Post, Turpin, Laxby, Summers, Joslin, Rogers, 
Bateman, Baldwin, Princeton and Lewis. 
On Grounds — Messrs. Kernochan, Appleton and 
Wharton. 
On Judges — Messrs. Schellhass and Geo. B. Post, Jr. 
On Arrangements — Messrs. Purinton, Laxby, Sum- 
mers and Wharton. 
On Premium List — Messrs. Appleton, Schellhass and 
Wharton. 
On Finance — Messrs. Geo. B. Post, Jr., Reed and 
Wharton. 
G. Mifflin Wharton, Sec'y. 
Continental Field Trial Club. 
The Continental Field Trial Club has effected a thor- 
ough reorganization in the past few months, and purposes 
going on with unabated ardor in its mission. It was 
seriously in debt at the close of its last trials, but a 
steadfast few raised sufficient funds to cancel its obliga- 
tions, which were the only obstacles to its continued 
activity, for the interest and energy of the working mem- 
bers never faltered. The present officers are Mr. Hobart 
Ames, of Boston, president; Messrs. Edward Dexter and 
Edmund II. Osthaus, vice-presidents, and Mr. W. B. 
Meares, secretary-treasurer, all well known and accom- 
plished sportsmen. Messrs. Osthaus and Meares have 
been engaged to judge, and the. great merit of the judg- 
ing is amply set forth in the mere announcement of the 
judges, for they are men of great experience and sterling 
uprightness. 
In our business columns the club announces its fourth' 
annual Derby, and its conditions. There are three 
prizes respectively, first, second and third, $250, $150 
and $ioo. Entries close Aug. t. Entries for all-age 
stake close Oct. 15. Entries for frcc-For-all sweepstake 
close the night before the race. Mr. Meares' address is 
Hillsboro, N. C. 
It will probably be news to most of our readers that a 
racing schooner is now building in this country and 
will soon be seen in the races, but such is the fact. The 
new boat is not intended to meet the Watson schooner 
Rainbow, of 115ft. l.w.l.; in fact, she is just 91ft. shorter, 
being designed for the 21ft. l.w.l. class of the Massachu- 
setts Y. R. A. Under the rules of the Association she 
will be entitled to an "allowance for rig," which will 
make her nominal measurement 21 instead of 24ft., thus 
admitting her to the class. Her designer and owner, Mr. 
S. N. Small, intends her for the Quincy challenge cup 
races, and the question has arisen as to her eligibility. 
We have not the space to go into the technical side of 
the question at present, but in our opinion it is one that 
should never have been brought up. The allowance for 
rig and the recognition of mixed rig races are very well 
in their way in ordinary club races, and the experiments 
of Mr. S. N. Small with his miniature schooner, and of his 
brother, Mr. J. F. Small, with a still smaller yawl, Katy- 
did, of 17ft. l.w.l., and measuring into the 15ft. class, 
promise to be interesting, and may produce some valu- 
able results showing the comparative efficiency of the 
sloop, yawl and schooner rigs. At the same time it is 
quite plain that all sorts of handicaps and special allow- 
ances are out of place in important international or even 
interclub matches. In all such contests the main idea 
is to test the superiority of the opposing parties in the 
matters of design and handling, and to make this test as 
perfect as possible, all differences of size, rig, etc., are 
eliminated; and the same conditions are laid down in ad- 
vance for both to work to. If one party builds a 
schooner and the other a cutter, the result will probably 
be decided not by the merits of the designing and hand- 
ling, but merely by the allowance for rig, which is at 
best but a guess and a makeshift. The whole course of 
international racing for fifty years has tended toward 
the elimination of such inequalities as difference of rig, 
of size, of methods of measurement favoring one special 
type, until to-day, in such conditions as those governing 
the Seawanhaka international cup, both challenger and 
defender are placed at the start on the fairest possible 
footing, to produce yachts of the same measurement, the 
same rig, and carrying the same weights of crew and 
helmsmen. There is ample opportunity in the pro- 
gramme of frequent races about Boston to make a satis- 
factory test of the schooner rig in the regular club races, 
and we believe that when all sides of the question are 
considered those interested in the experiment will see 
the propriety of confining it to the regular open races 
and of not entering in special inter-club matches. 
The Alteration of the Measurement Rule. 
We have already published the report of the special 
committee of the Seawanhaka C. Y. C. appointed to pro- 
pose a new rule of measurement for the club. As the 
matter now stands, the formula suggested by the com- 
mittee represents the only definite and practical proposal 
for a new rule now before the yachting public, with the 
exception of such proposals as have been advanced dur- 
ing the past winter and spring in the Forest and 
Stream by various correspondents who have taken 
part in the discussion of the measurement question 
through its columns. The council of the Yacht Racing 
Union, at its meeting last month, failed to reach any 
definite conclusion, being unwilling to adopt the British 
Y. R. A. formula in toto. It is most desirable that some 
final action be taken early next fall in. the adoption of a 
new rule of measurement, but if anything is to be done 
the whole subject^ must be very thoroughly discussed 
through the summer; to this end we shall devote all 
necessary space to such of our correspondents as are 
interested in this important question. 
While the main question is still perhaps a long way 
from a final settlement, much has been accomplished in 
the course of the past two years in opening the way to 
the general acceptance of a better rule, when such has 
been found. Two of the serious obstacles to the adoption 
of a satisfactory rule have at last disappeared, after doing 
untold harm to yachting for many years. The attempt to 
make a new rule on the basis of old boats has recently 
had a most satisfactory and probably final trial, prov- 
ing a complete failure, and we believe that American 
yachtsmen are now ready to abandon it and to proceed 
on the reasonable and sensible basis of framing a rule 
solely with relation to the new boats that will be built 
under it. This step of itself is a very great advance. 
Following it in natural sequence, though of equal or 
even greater importance, is the question of the class of 
yacht which it is designed that the new rule shall pro- 
duce. It is all very well to say that in theory a 
satisfactory rule of measurement should give equal op- 
portunities to the racing machine and the all-round 
yacht, and that under it v both should flourish side by side, 
but as a matter of fact such a perfect adjustment of 
the values of the many factors of advantage is ab- 
solutely impossible, and no "rule can be framed that 
will not put at a premium some one class oE yacht, the 
racing machine, the all-round fast cruiser, or possibly 
even the slow cruiser. It has so happened in the past 
that every rule tested on an extensive scale has in 
time resulted in the production of an extreme racing 
type, to the exclusion of more moderate and generally 
useful craft; this was the case under the "cubic con- 
tents" rule of the New York Y. C, the old tonnage and 
"1730" rules of the British Y. R. A., and later ol 
the Seawanhaka rule and the Y. R. A. "rating" rule 
since the introduction of the fin-keel. This inevitable 
tendency of every rule has been fully recognized of late 
years by the various experts and committees called upon 
to suggest new formulas, and the question has repeated- 
ly been put by such committees to the clubs and asso- 
ciations appointing them as to whether they were to seek 
for a formula that would produce yachts of the highest 
possible absolute speed, or one which would produce 
yachts of a generally useful type, but capable of racing 
in their classes. For a long time this question was" 
evaded by the clubs, but for several years past the 
British Y. R. A. has answered it positively in a declara- 
tion in favor of the all-round yacht, instead of the 
extreme racing machine, and American yachtsmen will 
now, in all probability, agree with the position of the 
Seawanhaka C. Y. C. at the present time, that the main 
object of the desired new rule is to produce fast but 
generally usable yachts. 
If yachtsmen are finally willing to accept these two 
propositions, that only new yachts are to be considered 
in framing a new rule, and that the object of this rule 
is to produce a less extreme type than the modern rac- 
ing machine, Defender, Niagara, Quisetta and Dragoon, 
there is far more hope of a satisfactory solution of the 
measurement question than has ever before existed. 
The most recent developments of the question are the 
report of Mr. Jarvis on his visit to England last winter, 
as published in the Forest and Stream of March 12 and 
19, and the report of the Seawanhaka special committee. 
June 4. The former report relates to the present "lineal 
rating" rule of the British Y. R. A., with girth as the 
new and important factor, compared with the old Y. R. 
A. rule, this new rule being proposed by Mr. Jarvis 
for adoption on this side. It brings up a very important 
question, which we hope to discuss next week, of the 
value of girth as a factor in producing the result aimed 
at. a reasonably large midship section. 
The Seawanhaka proposal also demands a careful and 
thorough inquiry into its basis and its probable' effects, 
good and bad, which we hope, with the aid of our corre- 
spondents, to take up later. 
The Race Committee of the Seawanhaka C. Y. C. 
has had the subject of a new measurement rule under 
serious consideration for the past two years, and in the 
fall of 1896 it began active work by calling a number oi 
meetings to which designers and others interested were 
invited. The discussions were at first oi a very general 
nature, developing a variety of views and numerous 
proposals, most of the latter being rejected by the ma- 
jority on careful inspection. The work has necessarily 
gone on slowly, the committee being engaged at the 
same time in its regular routine work and in the man- 
agement of an international race each year, and progress 
has been slow. During the past winter, however, it has 
been possible to dispose of much extraneous matter and 
to focus the discussion on a few main points, as shown 
by the following letter, framed by the committee and 
sent to various yachtsmen: 
New York, Jan. 30, 1898.— My Dear Sir: Referring 
to the recent conferences which have taken place on the 
rule of yacht measurement, the Race Committee of the 
Seawanhaka Corinthian Yacht Club is very anxious to 
follow the matter up and to accomplish some definite 
results. With this in view, I write at its request to ask 
you if you will not be good enough to give to it your 
views in writing, covering the following points: 
1 — I n contriving a new rule of measurement, what 
should be the purposes aimed at; that is to say, should 
the rule tend to the development of a so-called "whole- 
some type" of boat, or should racing qualities mainly be 
considered and the effort be restricted to such regula- 
tion as will insure the development of these qualities 
along fair lines without special reference to cruising 
qualities? 
2— Should the purpose be recommended to encourage 
a ''wholesome type" of boat what constitutes, in your 
opinion, such a type? 
3— Is it correct in principle, or desirable, to fix ar- 
bitrary limits upon any element of speed, as for ex- 
ample sail or draft? 
4— What elements of speed should be taxed? 
5— What cognizance should be taken of the difference 
between centerboard and keel types? 
At a meeting' of the Race Committee held this week 
especially to consider this subject, it seemed to be the 
general view that a new rule should tax load waterline, 
sail area and draft, and possibly also beam, either sepa- 
rately or associated with draft; and that 'perhaps dis- 
placement should be introduced for what may be called 
