FOREST AMD STREAM. 
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Professionals and Amateurs. 
Cleveland, 0., June 25. — Editor Forest and Stream: The paid 
^xpert in target shooting has grown to be a question of vital 
mportance to the life of the sport, and at the same time a most 
vexatious one for manufacturers to settle to their satisfaction. 
The paid expert has been for years a feature in target shooting 
hat would not for a moment have been toleratetd in anvother sport, 
nd the fact that he has been allowed to run riot for so many 
ears, living in part off of the amateurs of the country under false 
retense that his mission was to promote the sport, is one of the 
lost unaccountable of things. 
Years ago >a few of the gun-makers had men in their employ who 
lade the round of the leading tournaments of the country, acting 
oth as salesmen and experts, or as experts with the gun only, 
nd used the records made by these men for advertising the allow 
ng qualities of their make of guns. 
Then the better shots in different sections of the country were 
iven guns for nothing, or at a nominal price, if they would use 
hem at tournaments they attended and advise their friends to 
nirehase that particular make of gun. 
With the advent of the many different makes of nitro powders 
Sine a still greater number of experts, sent out to show the ex- 
ellent qualities of the different brands on the market. 
Then, to keep up with the procession, the large loading com- 
lanies sent out still more men to show how much better their 
oaded shells were than those loaded by their competitors. 
In addition to all these there was the still greater number of 
le best shots in the country that were furnished loaded shells, 
uns or powder for their services in influencing the consumption 
if the particular make of goods with which they were being sup- 
iied. 
With this army of expert shots, supplied with free ammunition, 
>aid for their services, and in constant practice on account of 
tallowing tournament after tournament, the result has been natu- 
■ally that during this year the amateur has suddenly awakened 
io the fact that he has not only been supporting the manufacturers 
vho supply him with guns, powder and ammunition by consuming 
heir goods, but, if he attends any tournaments, has been con- 
tributing to their representatives the money he has lost at. the 
forementioned tournaments, 
The result of this awakening has been very apparent at all of the 
dded money tournaments (and in passing it is noticeable that the 
dded money tournament is the only one that attracts the paid 
xpert) that have taken place this year. Taking Reading, Baltimore, 
3es Moines, Kansas City and Omaha as examples, you will find 
n the reports of these shoots very few names except those of the 
Id rounders. 
Realizing that the abuse has grown to such an extent that it 
vas killing the interest in shooting, the Cleveland Target Co. 
etermined this year to give a tournament on different plans from 
ny of the others given by them in years past, in order to demon- 
trate that if the paid expert was eliminated from the tournament 
is far as competing with the amateur was concerned, the amateur 
^ould once more come out of his hole and attend tournaments, and 
n as large numbers as ever. 
The result of that tournament was most gratifying in every re- 
pect, not only to the Cleveland Target Co., but to the repre- 
entatives of other manufacturers who attended the shoot in order 
o show their goods, but not to win the money of their customers. 
The week following the Chamberlin tournament came the Soo 
Jun Club tournament at Sioux City, la. This was also an ama- 
etir tournament, and like the Chamberlin tournament had over 
}0 shooters on the grounds, and with a still more noticeable lack 
f paid experts in attendance. 
Now here were two of the largest tournaments of the year, with 
lore than twice as many amateurs or consumers of guns and ara- 
Bunition in attendance than at any other tournament of the year, 
nd we find hardly any of the class of men in attendance who are 
tipposed to be promoting the sport of trap-shooting, and who 
laim that without them the sport must die. 
Why they were not in attendance at these two tournaments is 
ery easy to understand wdien the system under which they are 
mployed is known. 
These men all receive a certain set sum per year, ranging. from 
s low as $100 and ammunition furnished to as high as $2,500. 
ilost of them are free to come and go as they please, and pay all 
heir own expenses, of all kinds, and shoot for their own money, 
ocketing the losses as well as the winnings. 
Traveling expenses eat up about all they receive from their 
mployers, so they must depend upon their winnings to make 
living; and for that reason tournaments where they are not per- 
mitted to shoot for the money of the amateur are boycotted, al- 
hough these tournaments give them by far the best opportunity 
0 show the goods of their employers. 
Knowing that the success of the Chamberlin and Soo Gun Club 
purnaments meant a new era in trap-shooting, these "promoters" 
>f the sport not only kept away from these shoots, but tried in 
very way possible to keep everybody else away; but with very* 
oor success. 
When manufacturers send their salesmen to tournaments and for- 
n"d them to shoot for the money purses they will find that it 
rill perhaps cost them more per year for the services of their 
epresentatives, but they will notice a marked increase in the at- 
ndance at tournaments and in the consumption of their goods. 
There is already a strong tendency in this direction, as can be 
een by the fact that the salesmen of several manufacturers were 
resent at the Chamberlin tournament, and they all expressed 
iiemselves as more than pleased with the success of the shoot. 
The action of Harvey McMurchy, of the Hunter Arms Co., at 
lie New York shoot at Rochester, in not entering any of the 
tate events, but only shooting in the open or "wolf" events, places 
im on record in favor of the new departure, and at the same 
me makes him pretty well disliked in certain quarters. Think 
f Harvey McMurchy being disliked! 
A large proportion of the cash purses and several of the best 
rizes in the merchandise event in the State events were won by 
aid experts who should not have been allowed to compete in the , 
tate events at all, although they were residents of the State. 
To the credit of Mr. Banks it can be said that although he won 
e first prize in one of the classes in the merchandise event he 
nmediately turned it over to the others . who had tied him in the 
lain event, but whom he had shot out in the ties. 
State tournaments should at all hazards be strictly amateur 
loots, as to the writer's knowledge several State trap-shooters' 
jsociations have been nearly if not quite disrupted by the strong 
rofessional showing at all State meets, that carries away year after 
;ar most of the prizes and money. 
Tournaments can be run on the same plan as the last Chamber- 
n shoot, and these experts can shoot among themselves and with 
e best of the amateurs that may desire to compete with them, but, 
1 one of the experts said to the writer in discussing the Chamber- 
n programme: "Well, that is all right, but we can only shoot 
gainst amateurs that are about as good as we are." Ihere is 
le "whole question in a nutshell. Without the easy amateur 
; "producer, as they call him, they find it hard to make both 
ids meet. Knowing that they were right, feeling that other 
anufacturers would soon adopt the same views, realizing that 
ey would incur the ill will and opposition of the paid expert, but 
tpending upon the support of the consumers of its manufactures, 
e. Cleveland Target Co. ran its last tournament for amateurs, and 
ihounces that its sixth annual tournament, June 15 to 16, will 
i run on the same principle. 
Paul North. 
Buffalo Audubon Gun Club. 
Buffalo, June 23.— The attendance at the regular weekly shoot 
the Audubon Gun Club yesterday was slim. There was no badge 
vioot and the feature of the day's sport was the monthly cup 
loot, which was won by C. S. Burkhardt, who scored 24 out of 26 
issible birds. This was remarkably good shooting, considering the 
;avy wind. Following are the scores: 
Events: 1 2 3 4 Events: 12 3 4 
Targets: 15 15 * 20 Targets: ~ 15 15 * 20 
Burkhardt ...13 13 24 19 Alexander 10 11 18 14 
T Reid 9 12 22 
Burkhardt ......... 9 12 22 L2 
H Hebard 11 9 19 . . 
Stover 12 8 17 . . 
:huler ,. 7 7 13 .. 
lynn 4 6 . . . . 
jllivan 4 4 . . 
Brien 8 14 . . 10 
9 9 IS 
;orey 
Club shoot. 
Porter 12 13 13 
Talsma .. 10 19 .. 
Jacobs .. io 20 17 
E W Smith 10 23 .. 
Geo McArthur 21 
Dr E Carrol 14 
W^en 15 15 
1 risher 7 
C E Hebard .. .. 15 
Mr. C. O. Gardner, secretary of the Bergen County Gun Club, 
-ites us that " the Bergen County Gun Club will hold a handicap 
loot for a cup on Saturday of this week at 1 o'clock, 25 birds, 
entrance. There will be in addition to the regular shoot a 
jveltv event for another cup, both prizes to become personal 
: operty of the winner. A good attendance is expected." 
Dupont Gun Club. 
Omaha, Neb., June 25.— The regular shoot of the Dupont Club 
was held to-day in the presence of a large number of spectators. 
The interest and the number of participants in the regular shoots 
are increasing with each succeeding week, and part of the credit 
for this is surelv due to the efforts of Parmelee and Hallowell, 
who are regular attendants and "jolliers." Mr. Charles North, a 
brother of Paul North, of Cleveland, looked after the traps and 
had them in fine order, which added much to the pleasure of the 
shooters. Of the 2,500 targets thrown less than one per cent. \vas 
brpken by the trap. The club is formulating plans for a strictly 
amateur tournament, to be given in September. The intention is 
to add considerable money. A large attendance is anticipated. 
The score of the shoot follows: Event No. 1 was the club score. 
_Nos. 2 and 3 were team races, $5 per team : 
Snapper No. 1 1111111111111111 1 111—20 
(Back score) 11111111110111111111—19 
Townsend 10111011111111111111 — 18 
Parmelee 11110111111111111111—19 
Randlett 11111111111111101111—19 
Conrad . 1101111111131111 1110—18 
Goodrich lmioimimiiiiii— io 
Welch 11110111101111111111—18 
Davis 00111010001111101000—10 
Morrill 00111011111111111111—17 
( ioldsinith 01010111111010100100—11 
Brewer 11111111101111111111—19 
Hallowell 11111111111111111011— 19 
Icken 11110111010011010111—14 
Dvorak 11101011111011111110—16 
Schnieder .-.1110100111H11001111— 15 
Salisbury 11011110101111111111—17 
Nelson 11111111111100110101—16 
H Bauman 11101111111011110101—16 
Ackerman 11111111111111100011—17 
Johnson 10000011110001100011— 9 
North 11001011010001110101—11 
Dickey _ 01110010111101111111-15 
Watt 11110110011011111111-16 
Curtis 00111111111111110111—17 
No. 2, team race: 
Team No. 1. 
Townsend 1111111111-10 
Parmelee 1111111111—10 
Snapper 1110110110- 7 
Icken 1111110011— 8 
Schnieder 1111101100— 7 
Watt 1010111101— 7—49 
No. 3: 
Team No. 1. 
Townsend 0101110111— 7 
Parmelee H11110000— 6 
Snapper 1111111111—10 
Icken 1U1101111— 9 
Schnieder 1011011111— 8 
Watt 1111011111— 9—49 
No. 4, doubles: 
Icken 
Curtis 
Young 
Parmelee 
Hallowell 
Townsend 
Dvorak 
Team No. 2. 
Conrad 1111111111—10 
Hallowell 0111111101— S 
Welsh 1100111011 - 7 
Dvorak 1101000011— 5 
Curtis 1111111011— 9 
Salisbury 1111110111— 9-48 
Team No. 2. 
Conrad 1111111111—10 
Hallowell 1111111111—10 
Welsh 0111111111— 9 
Dvorak llllUlOlll— S 
Curtis lOOlUllll— S 
Salisbury 1110111011— S— 53 
.11 00 11 01 11 10 11 11—12 
.11 11 01 11 01 11 11 —12 
.11 11 10 11 11 — 9 
.11 11 10 10 11 — 8 
.11 10 10 10 11 — 7 
.10 11 11 01 11 — s 
.01 10 — 2 
Practice shoot, 10 birds: 
Hardin 0101101211— 7 
Randlett 2221011111— 9 
Hallowell 1122222222—10 
Parmelee 2112222222—10 
Welch H0H22UO— S 
Goldsmith 1221111112—10 
Icken 0122111122— 9 
Pine Bluff Gun Club. 
Pine Bluff, Ark., June 23. — To-day was an ideal shooting day 
with the exception of the heat, and the magautrap worked to per- 
fection. Coles, who lias been bringing up the rear in general 
average, jumped to second place and seemed to be at himself 
again. John Speers has deserted his shooting friends, and says he 
don't intend to shoot over the trap any more. The trouble with 
John is he is too easily discouraged, and I would advise him to 
get his gun and join us. It takes practice to make a good per- 
former with the gun, and John is too good a shot to become 
discouraged because he makes a poor score twice in succession. 
J. A. Coles won to-day's contest for A medal, breaking 22 out of 
25. Clements and Coles defeated Lloyd and Clements for Keely 
cup on following score: 
Clements 19 Lloyd ...16 
Coles 18—37 Howell 16—32 
The following scores were made: 
shot 
at. 
Clements 50 
Coles 50 
Lloyd 50 
Howell 50 
Broke. 
45 
44 
40 
39 
Av. 
.900 
.880 
.SOO 
.780 
Shot 
at. 
Ornold 50 
Sorrels 50 
Williams ... 50 
Broke. 
37 
36 
25 
Sec'v 
Av. 
.740 
.720 
500 
Vm. T. Smith Gun Club. 
Philadelphia, June 25.— The regular monthly shoot of the Wm. 
T. Smith Gun Club was held to-day on their grounds, Rope Ferry 
Road and Magazine Lane. Gold and silver badges are offered to 
first, second and third man each month, to be contested for. 
Twenty-five bluerocks per man, known angles. The scores were: 
Wm T Smith 1101111111111111111111111—24 
J O'Brjon 1111001111101011001111111—19 
J E 1110011000111010111111111—18 
1 Lewis 1010110001111001111100111—16 
Dr Devine 0101001111110101101101110—16 
After the club match Smith and J, E. shot a private match for a 
small purse, same conditions as above. Each broke 19 out of the 
25 and shot it off at 5 birds, when they broke straight, and it was 
postponed until next Saturday. The scores were: 
Smith 1010111111101111101110101—19 
J E 1111010111111011111110100—19 
Tie, shot off at 5: 
Smith 11111 J E , mil 
Greener. 
Hingham Gun Club. 
Hingham, Mass., Jane 25. — The silver cup having been now 
won three times by Higgins, now becomes his personal property. 
A high wind made good scores difficult to make. 
Al . ison 1111011 OOllOlllOiOJ 011110 
10111101111111011111111U _39 
Hen derson 1011111111111111010001111 
1000011111100111111110101 —38 
Howe OOllllOOllllOllllOlllOlll 
0010111111111111110101111—38— 2—40 
Higgins 1010110101111100111100110 
0011111111010101010101111—33-10-43 
S vlv ester 0000010011000011100000000 
0010000010000000100000011—11—15—96 
Loring 1110010001100110100000001 
0101011111011110110010000—25—12—37 
Leavitt 101001C010100010000000001 
1110000000000100100010101—15—15—30 
Spalding 0011111101110100000100101 
1111010100011010111010111—29— 2—31 
Lincoln 1000011000000901101000111 
1001101111111010111001001—25—10—35 
The Union Metallic Cartridge Co.'s new catalogue is a model of 
typographical neatness and concise information in respect to its 
products. It is far from being exclusively an enumeration of 
munitions of war. U. M. C. loaded and paper shells occupy a 
conspicuous place. Cartridges of every description are so classified 
that any information concerning them can be obtained in a mo- 
ment. Among the new goods announced are grease-proof and 
smokeless card wads of improved material, for use over nitro 
powders, smokeless powder cartridges in a larger variety of caliber 
and styles. The catalogue will he mailed on application to the 
Union Metallic Cartridge Co., 313 Broadway, New York. 
The third monthly shoot of the Greenfield Gun Club, Pittsburg, 
will take place on July 12. There are ten events in the programme^ 
each at 15 targets, entrance to each $1.30. Shooting commences 
at 1 o'clock. Moneys divided 40, 30, 20 and 10 per cent. Targets 
2 cents each, and any one who so pleases may shoot for targets 
only. John C. Knode. secretary, Greenfield avenue, Pittsburg, 
Seattle Rod and Gun Club. 
Seattle, Wash., June 28.— The Seattle Rod and Gun Club won 
a glorious victory over Tacoma yesterday afternqon at the West 
Seattle traps, making the third consecutive victory for the Hunting 
and Fishing challenge trophy in five years. Each team was com- 
posed of five men, who shot down 25 birds at a time, with 50 
birds to the man. Seattle's team was composed of Messrs. Ruppe, 
Ellis, Stevens, Chellis and Hood, and that of Tacoma of Messrs. 
Young, Ebberly, Pierce, Gormen and Smith. 
Considering that there was a good wind blowing all the time 
the scores made as a whole were good. Seattle scored 197 to 187 
for Tacoma. Hood, of Seattle, led with a total of 45. Young, of 
Tacoma, was second with 44. Young got 24 out of his last 25, 
making the best run or the day. Ellis and R«ppe both shot well, 
and considering that Ruppe has not shot at all lately he made a 
very good score; but Jack always gets down to work when it 
comes to hustling those Tacoma boys for the cup. Stevens in 
the racu shot nothing like his form, only getting 33, for right 
afterward he had 20 straight chalked up to his record. He is jjen- 
erally good for 42 or 43, but yesterday must have been his off day 
in the race. Pierce, of Tacoma, did not shoot as well as he is 
expected to, for he is counted among the best shots in the North- 
west; but the best of them fall down sometimes. His shooting 
yesterday though was much better than at the last meeting. Ellis 
also improved on his work of the month previous. Ebberly, one 
of Tacoma's oldest shooters, got back into the game yesterday, and 
got 35. In the sweeps though he was right there every time, and 
in the last event of 10 singles, reverse, and 5 pairs, he got 17—8 
out of 10 reverse, and 9 out of 10 in the pairs. Chellis was pushing 
Ruppe and Ellis along, and got a total of 38. Carmen, of Tacoma, 
was low man with 30. He shot well in his first 25, but fell down 
on the last string. 
All the boys arc impatient now for the Vancouver shoot, which 
starts on the 29th and lasts four days. 
There is $1,444 added money, besides about $1,500 in medal and 
prizes, making a grand total of about $3,000. It is only open to 
the shooters of the Northwest Association. Seattle hopes to bring 
back some of those trophies, and also hopes to separate the boys 
from their cash up there in a fair and sportsmanlike manner, and 
may the best man win, whoever he may be. The scores: 
Seattle. 
Hood 11111111111101 lllllllOimOlllllllllllOlllllllOlll— 45 
Kuppe 11111111101111111U10111100H111101110011111011101— 41 
Ellis 111111001111 11 111111101110110010111 1 1 1 110011011111 — 10 
Chellis 1111101101101011111 11 10011101101110101111111101110— 3S 
Stevens llOlimillOOOlllOoOlIOlllOOOOlllOillllOOOllllOlll— 33— 197 
Tacoma. 
Young lOOlllOlllllllOlOllllllllUlllllllli LlllllllllOlll— 44 
Pel rec 001111101001111111 11111111111111 1 01 1 1111111 1 1HI001-^1 
Smith 11111111101101110011111101111101000011111010011111—37 
Ebberly LlOiOlOlOil JOjllllll 1 11 11111111100101010.11100001001— 35 
Car m an HOOlllllOll lOHoll 1 111 lOllOOllOOOOOlOHOOll 101000—30—187 
Events: 1 2 3 4 5 6 *7 Events: 1 2 3 4 5 6 *7 
largets: 15 15 20 10 20 20 20 Targets: 15 15 20 10 20 20 20 
Hood 14 14 19 19 19 18 15 Clarke 16 6 16 13 14 
Stevens 11 9 20 9 IS 16 14 
Ellis 14 15 18 .. 17 15 13 
Young 10 12 . . 9 12 . . 12 
Block 10 11 16 7 14 14 14 
W nardy... 12 10 
Chellis 14 11 19 9 12 16 10 
Wiegel 10 7 12 5 14 11 . . 
J Hardy 9 9 
bmith 18 8 14 ... . 
Spokane 15 7 15 11 16 
Pence 13 10 16 15 12 
Kimball 14 7 13 16 15 
Ten singles, reverse, and 5 pairs 
Nelson 15 5 13 17 16 
Carman 12 8 12 13 35 
Ebberly 17 10 11 18 17 
McKee 11 5 
Hall 14 8 16 16 . . 
Ruppe 16 9 11 
Johnson 13 13 16 
Morton 10 . . .. 
Louis 12 .. 
Spencer 14 .. 
Hipkens . ,. 14 . . 
Bob J4 
^nmetf to (f^orrczpondqttk. 
No notice taken of anonymous communications, 
C. S., New York.— The record you mention does not make the 
party a professional. So long as he does not follow trap-shooting 
lor a livelihood in whole or in an important part, he is an 
amateur. 
J. E., Des Moines, la.— Paper shells are the most convenient 
and are sufficiently efficacious for all purposes. Brass shells may 
be reloaded, therefore have an advantage on the score of economy 
the proper load for a young boy at targets is 2V Z or 2%drs. of 
powder and l%oz. of ho. VA shot. The gun you mention is 
excellent for the purpose. 
J. W. F., Aramosa, la— I have been watching the columns of 
your paper for something in regard to frogs. Will you kindly tell 
me where I can get bullfrogs for breeders, or where I can tjet 
young frogs tadpoles or spawn, with which to stock my ponds? 
Ans. Irom local waters, we should say. The only frog farming 
yet achieved in this country consists of the capture of wild froes 
in a time of plenty and keeping them for market. 
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9. Royal St. Lawrence, 20, 18 and 15ft. classes, Dorval. 
9. Burgess, second championship, Massachusetts Bay. 
9. Quincy, handicap, Boston Harbor. 
9. Baltimore, McAllister cup, Chesapeake Bay. 
9. Norwalk, club, Long Island Sound. 
9. Woods Holl, championship, West Falmouth. 
9. Wollaston, ladies' day, Boston Harbor. 
9. Taunton, ladies' day, Taunton, Mass. 
9-10. East Gloucester, cruise, Gloucester, Mass. 
9. Canarsie, open, Jamaica Bay. 
11-13. Seawanhaka trial races, 20ft. class, Oyster Bay. 
11. Quincy, ladies' day, Boston Harbor. 
14. Miramichi, Adams cup, Chatham. 
14. Seawanhaka, annual, Oyster Bay. 
16. Beverly, fourth championship, Buzzard's Bay. 
16-23. Larchmont, race week, Long Island Sound. 
16. Corinthian Marblehead, championship, Massachusetts Ba 
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23. Quincy, open, Boston Harbor. 
23. Winthrop, club, Boston Harbor. 
23. Burgess, ladies' race, Massachusetts Bay. 
23. Woods Holl, championship, Sussett Harbor. 
23. American, skiff class, Newburyport. 
23. Royal Canadian, 27, 22 and skiff classes, Toronto, 
