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Quail in the South. 
The Southern Railway Company send us their new- 
book, giving particulars of hunting -resorts for quail 
and other feathered game and deer in the South, particu- 
larly North Carolina and Virginia. From recent reports^ 
all gathered within the last few days, by the Southern's 
agents at the points designated, we extract the following 
hints as to the opportunities for shooting. That many 
of the reports are unfavorable is to be taken as a guaran- 
tee that the representations may be accepted as reliable: 
Charlotte, N. C. — In regard to present conditions, 
woidd state that birds were never more plentiful. 
Bushnell, N. C. — Quail are scarce. 
Elkin, N. C. — Think it will be very good season. 
Asheboro, N. C. — Am advised by local sportsmen 
that present outlook is very favorable, and quail are 
plentiful. 
Newells, N. C. — Birds are reported scarce in this sec- 
tion. 
Stovall, N. C. — Quail plentiful. 
Lyons, N. C. — The quail are very plentiful. 
Bullocks, N. C. — Birds are plentiful. 
Durham. N. C. — Quail shooting will be fine in this 
vicinity this season, as birds are reported to be plentiful. 
Flat Rock, N. C. — The quail shooting here does not 
amount to much. 
Troutman, N. C. — This is one of the finest quail shoot- 
ing districts in the State. Game is abundant this year. 
As there has been very little quail shooting in this 
community for quite a time, everything is most favor- 
able for a season's outing. 
Otter River, Va. — There is a fine lot of quail, but are 
hunted but little. Some of the land is posted, but I 
think persons desiring to hunt covdd get permission to 
do so. Would advise that you refer persons contemplat- 
ing coming to this locality to Mr. E. R. Goodman. 
Broad River, Va. — Hunting is not allowed by the 
farmers. I think every farm in this section is posted. 
Mt. Jackson, Va. — Nearly all lands are posted. 
Sutherlin, Va. — Quail abundant in this section, and 
quite a number are being killed. 
Culpeper C. H., Va. — All the best country in this e- 
gion for bird hunting is posted against all persons hunt- 
ing on it. I do not think non-residents will be allowed 
to hunt in this county. 
Lawyers' Road, Va. — There is plenty of quail in this 
vicinity, but there has not been any sportsmen here this 
season, as the people around here who own the land 
forbid any one from hunting on their lands. This has 
been the case for quite a number of years. 
Chase City, Va. — The prospect for fine sport has never 
been equalled. From all directions reports come of 
quail in the greatest abundance; also other game. 
Fairfax,- Va. — Game is not so plentiful, and farmers 
do not allow hunting on their farms. There are no 
sportsmen here who make a practice of hunting. Rab- 
bits is the only game that is anyway plentiful. 
Proffit, Va. — Quail and rabbits are plentiful here. 
Skipwith, Va. — There are lots of quail around here, 
but not much hunting. 
Scottsburg, Va. — Good many quail. Some lands are 
posted, but no trouble to obtain permission to hunt. 
Tunstall, Va. — Quail are very plentiful in this section. 
Hounds and Still-Hunters. 
Editor Forest and Stream: 
Having been in the game for thirty years I think I 
can safely say that it has not been the sportsmen with 
hounds who have slaughtered the deer in this State, 
it's the still-hunter, and always was the still-hunter. 
Ninety per cent, of them are -market-hunters; and I am 
very well acquainted with their ear marks. 
I was one of a party of ten, and all good sportsmen, 
and we hunted with hounds. On a three weeks' trip we 
usually killed from twenty to thirty deer. A good still- 
hunter will kill as many. And I was acquainted with 
several other parties that averaged about the same. 
The men who hunted with hounds were sportsmen and 
did not make a business of it. As far as I know they 
have all dropped out of the game, as the law in this State 
now leaves it all in the hands of the pot-hunter, and they 
will finish them up in great shape — and it won't take 
many years at that. 
I notice an article in the Forest and Stream, quoting 
"Van Dyke's Still-Hunter," that not one in twenty or 
even fifty deer still-hunted is ever seen. He evidently 
has never been acquainted with the genuine article. I 
have known a score of still-hunters that averaged from 
thirty to sixt3 r in a season. And I know of several now 
that I would like to back to kill nine out of every ten 
they started after on a light snow. 
I have had some queer experiences with still-hunters. 
The majority of them was always threatening to kill our 
dogs, but I never knew them to fail to sneak in and 
kill a deer ahead of the dogs if they had a chance, and 
perhaps kill the dog afterward. I usually gave them as 
fair warning as they did me, for I should be very sorry 
to see a man shoot a dog of mine. They did not want 
but little, the best of it — all the deer would do. 
I know that there are exceptions to the class I refer 
to, but I rarely ever met them. 
All the still-hunting outfit has to do now is to take a 
bull dog and a hatchet and wait for a deep snow and 
crust. It's their long suit. 
' It would appear that, the hounds give a deer quite as 
much chance as a moose gets when he is called up and 
potted. Men's ideas of what constitutes sport differ, and 
probably always will. I am on the shady side, but am 
looking on at the game and expect to see the finish. 
For a number of years we camped at the mouth of Big 
Creek, on the Au Sable River, and what a splendid 
deer country it was! They are gone, like the buffalo 
and the pigeons. Perhaps some one will say the sports- 
men killed them. It would be a splendid idea if more 
people would practice what they preach, and not preach 
about things they know nothing about. 
The grayling fishing I have had on the Au Sable is 
something to be remembered. It was a very bad day 
a man could not take a hundred if he wanted them. 
While talking with a friend this summer, who had been 
fishing on the river, he told me that he onlv took two 
grayling— all trout. And I have fished there days in 
years gone by and never took a trout. The trout is the 
better fish. The grayling must be eooked very soon 
after being caught or they get soft'. But they are rare 
sport. There is still good grayling fishing in the Manis- 
tee River. 
One who remembers the countless thousands of 
pigeons would never have supposed they could dis- 
appear in the way they have; but when one knows how 
they were followed by pigeoners, winter and summer, 
north and south, netted and their nestings robbed of 
squabs and shipped to market by the car load, it's not 
so surprising. It's only a few years ago that deer 
were slaughtered in the same way— by the thousands — 
and shipped to market. 
I am not doing any guessing in regard to it. I have 
seen it all; and I think it would take a man with con- 
siderable nerve to say it was done by sportsmen. 
The Cadi's parting shot at the sucker was a warm one 
and hits so many. 
L. H. Hascall. 
Michigan, Oct. 80. 
The Adirondack Deer Law. 
Editor Forest and Stream: 
In Essex county, which comprises a large slice of the 
Adirondack State Park, the nominees for State senator 
and assemblyman on both the Republican and Demo- 
cratic tickets are striving to win favor by promises to 
work for the repeal of the existing deer law and the 
legalizing of hounding. It began with a letter from the 
Democratic nominee for assemblyman, who purposely 
confused Game Protector Fletcher Beede with his 
brother Orlando, who is running for assemblyman on 
the Republican ticket, in an attempt to injure the latter 
by prejudicing the hunting class against him. The writer 
asserts that both he and his running mate for the Legis- 
lature will attempt to have "game laws that will be for 
the interest of the people of our section." 
To this Orlando Beede answers that both he and 
Senator Chahoon are opposed to the present anti-hound- 
ing deer law, which is for "the benefit of the cities alone," 
and in favor of laws "for the benefit of the residents of 
Essex county." 
Essex county includes as many native hunters as any 
other Adirondack county, and is fairly representative of 
the whole section. The fact that the repeal of the non- 
hounding law is made a leading feature in the party 
measures of both Republicans and Democrats shows the 
strength of native sentiment in favor of hounding. 
The Essex County Republican is the chief newspaper 
published in the eastern Adirondacks. It is in touch 
with the sentiment of the people regarding the present 
deer hunting law. So are the Republican nominees for 
State senator and assemblyman. The Republican says 
editorially: "The people of Essex county want hound- 
ing. Chahoon and Beede are both in favor of hound- 
ing and will work together for the repeal of the pres- 
ent anti-hounding law." Incidentally, common report 
has it that most of the deer killed this fall are killed in 
front of the hounds. J. B. B. 
In the last issue of Forest and Stream is found an 
article on deer hounding by Raymond S. Spears, of 
Brooklyn, who seems to be sadly misinformed as to the 
real condition of affairs in at least this side of the 
Adirondacks. It is a well-known fact that so intense was 
the belief of the guides of the Brown's Track region 
that hounding should be prohibitory at all times, they 
met in Boonville last winter and perfected an organiza- 
tion, the object of which was to combine and act as a 
unit in the interest of the anti-hounding law. These 
guides are true sportsmen and not pot-hunters, they 
are men who believe that in the protection of the deer 
lies the safety of the beautiful Adirondack forests they 
love so well. To them more than any other source is 
due the fact that the proposed amendment to the game 
law permitting deer hounding failed to become a law. 
No one who knows the members of the Brown's Track 
Guides' Association would for a moment entertain the 
idea that they were anything but staunch advocates of 
the anti-hounding law, and Mr. Spears' article is un- 
happy in its inference that the guides are not in sym- 
pathy with the best possible means of protecting, not 
only the deer, but the whole Adirondack wilderness. — 
Boonville Herald. 
The Sale of Game out of Season. 
The gauntlet thrown down by the Baltimore firm of 
Henderson, Linthicum & Company to the Maryland 
Game and Fish Protective Association in attempting 
to have part of the '98 game law declared unconstitution- 
al, will be taken up by the Association, which is pre- 
pared to make a hard fight in defense of the new statute. 
President George Dobbin Penniman, when asked what 
action, if any, his Association would take with regard to 
Mr. Henderson's attempt, said to a Baltimore Sun re- 
porter: 
"Why, certainly we shall defend the law. We have 
every confidence in State's Attorney Duffy, but we are 
directly interested in this matter, and we shall ask him 
to allow us to assist him in the prosecution of the case, 
and unless he objects, some one, perhaps myself, will 
make one of the arguments in defense of the law. Here 
is, in brief; the reason for that clause of the law forbid- 
ding the sale of game out of season, no matter where it 
comes from, which is the one they will attack: If the 
law can close the markets entirely to game out of season 
it will go very far toward stopping the slaughter of 
game out of season, but if game can be brought here 
from outside the State it will open the doors to all game, 
for Maryland game can be mixed up with that from 
Virginia, North Carolina and other States, and it would 
be next to impossible to prove that any particular game 
was killed in Maryland or somewhere else. Again, any 
quantity of game could be slaughtered along the borde-s 
of the State and shipped from just across the line, and 
therefore it would be perfectlv lawful to sell such game, 
if that clause were declared unconstitutional. It woald 
simply throw down the bars and render the law, or 
that part of it, valueless. 
"Mr. Henderson is mistaken in thinking the Maryland 
Court of Appeals has ever decided the point at issue. 
The point did not arise in the Dickhaut case. On 
the other hand. Judge Alvey, of the District of Columbia, 
has decided the same question in a case arising out of 4 
game law similar to ours, and he ruled the statute valid. 
As for this clause injuring the commission business, of 
course the commission men would like to sell game 
from other States, but it seems unreasonable to me to 
say that because a man cannot send a rabb't to Balti- 
more he will not send a crate of chickens, when he 
can get a better price for them here than elsewhere, or 
better transportation rates. 
"Some people are trying to raise the demagogic cry 
that the game law is for the benefi of rich men. It 
is just the contrary — it is for the man of moderate means 
and the poor man. The rich man, when he goes gun- 
ning, usually goes outside of Maryland, to North Caro- 
lina and where game is more plentiful, and he is not 
only not interested in preserving Maryland game, but is 
interested in getting game to eat out of season as well 
as in season. Why, we had to raid the Maryland Club 
the other day. We are trying to preserve the game in 
Maryland for the clerk, the small business man, the far- 
mer and any man who likes to take a hunt sometimes 
and is not able to go out of the State for his game. The 
season opens Tuesday, and every gunner who shoots a 
bird ought to thank the game association that there is 
still a bird to shoot." 
Maine Game. 
Now the Maine papers are making sport of what thev 
seem to consider a rare joke. It seems that Senator 
Eugene Hale has been down to his old home at Elss- 
worth, and that while there he conceived the happy 
thought of sending his mother-in-law in Washington. 
Mrs. Zack Chandler, a fine brace of partridges. The 
birds were duly packed, tagged and shipped. But a 
game warden smelled of the box and smelled game. It 
was regularly seized and Senator Hale was notified. He 
appeared, and quietly drew his pocketbook and paid the 
fine for illegal shipment of partridges out of the State, 
$5 for each bird, the entire shipment costing him about 
$40. The papers say that Senator Hale claims that he 
has been so busy looking into national affairs that he 
has not had time to study the game laws of his own 
State. 
The handsomest moose of the season was seen in 
^Faneuil Hall Market Tuesday, at the stall of W. H. 
Jones & Co., who squarely bought him of the hunter who 
shot him in Maine. The lucky hunter's name is Edward 
V. Goodwin, of Antrim, N. H. He came through with 
his game, and thus had a right to ship it out of that 
State. The animal had a beautiful set of eight-pronged 
antlers, very clear and symmetrical. With entrails drawn 
and head and hide on he weighed 73olbs. His limbs were 
clear and of a beautiful silver-gray color; a characteristic 
of an aged moose from Maine. One is sorry to think 
that another beautiful specimen of a noble race of ani- 
mals has fallen. The feeling is general that the moose 
is doomed to follow the bison. 
The Bangor, Me., papers say that on Friday the game 
wardens seized a calf moose, claimed by F. E. Wake- 
field, of Boston, which he shot at Stacyville. He was 
arraigned in the municipal court and pleaded guilty. The 
judge sentenced him to three months in jail. He ap- 
pealed, giving bonds in the sum of $200 for appearance at 
the February term of court. The papers further state 
that this is the second, case of seizure of calf moose 
within two days, and that the last one, up to these two 
cases, was two years ago. Special. 
New York League. 
Seneca Falls, N. Y., Nov. i. — To all Clubs, Organi- 
zations and Associations for the Protection of Forests 
and Propagation and Protection of Fish and Game in 
the State of New York: You are hereby notified that 
the regular annual meeting of this League will be held 
at the Yates Hotel in the city of Syracuse, N. Y., at 10 
A. Mr., Thursday, Dec. 8, 1898. 
All clubs, organizations and associations created or 
organized for any of the above purposes or objects are 
invited to be represented at this meeting. No part of the 
State should fail of representation, for it is only by their 
united efforts that sufficient protection to game, birds, 
fish and forests can be speedily accomplished. 
All sportsmen, game protectors and foresters are par- 
ticularly urged to see that clubs are organized in every 
town and village in their districts, and that they send 
delegates to this meeting. 
It is the special aim of this League to simplify the 
present fisheries, game and forest laws; to remedy any 
evils that may now exist; to eliminate therefrom un- 
wholesome and unjust local legislation, and secure uni- 
formity thereof; to create and foster a public sentiment 
in favor of better fish and game protection and forest 
preservation, and produce the enactment of just and 
wholesome laws for these purposes, as well as to pro- 
mote the observance and enforcement of the same. At 
least every county in the State should have a protective 
game and fish or forest organization which should be 
represented at this meeting, thus carrying to the Legis- 
lature a voice of power making for a common interest 
and an honest purpose. 
Additional information and membership application 
blanks will be furnished upon request to the secretary, 
with whom correspondence is solicited. 
Suggestions or recommendations of amendment to the 
fisheries, game and forest law must be in the hands of 
the chairman of the law and legislative committee, above 
named, by Nov. 15. 
All clubs and organizations well disposed toward fish 
and game protection and forest preservation should not 
fail of representation at this annual meeting. Respect- 
fully yours, W. S. Gavitt, President. 
Ernest G. Gould, Secretary. 
Florida West Coast. 
Tarpon Springs, Fla., Oct. 27. — Deer, quail and tur- 
keys are fairly plenty. Fishing good, Tarpon, 
