FOREST ANt) STHEAM. 
41? 
The Capabilities of Small Yachts. 
Apropos of the noted yawl Spray. Capt. Joshua 
Slocum. which craft, by the way. is now high and dry 
at low water in the little creek of the Erie Basin dry 
decks, a correspondent of the Field has started a very 
in.eresting discussion of the capabilities of small yachts. 
The subject is by no means local, and should appeal 10 
many on this side of the water, where uneqnaled facilities 
for Corinthian and single-hand cruising are to be found. 
We reprint from the Field the following letters in the 
hope that they may lead to a further discussion of the 
subject cf small cruising craft, ihtir design, use, out- 
fit, etc.: 
Editor Tic Field: 
It wou.d he interesting to have a discussion in your 
columns as regards I lie real capacity and power oi small vesseis. 
Capt S.ocum s voyage suggests that decked boats of 6 to 15 tons, 
if strong. y built on good seagoing lines, sloutiy rigged, and 
proper. y iiainl cd. can keep the sea in all weathers, including 
under that phrase the sea and wind ordinarily to be met with in 
Winter, but excluding, ot course, tidal waves and such violent 
sea distui bailees as arise in tide races in certain well-known local- 
ities, and excluding a. so winds ol exceptional violence, such as 
may rcadi a sp^'ed ol eighty to a hundred miles an hour. The 
op.nions of those who i-lum.d know seem to vary considerably as 
regards the saiety of small crait in gales oi wind. In the laic 
Mr. k. T. .Mac mm leu's judgment it was oniy by the exercise of 
great skill and watchlumess, combined with unusual powers of 
•endurance, II. at it was possible to "come through " such weather in 
. .a smaii vessel. i\.r. I£. I<", Knight seems to be ol the same op.nion, 
•and advocates close attention to the barometer in waiting for a 
'•s.ant " beiore attempting evtn a run across the Channel in a 
smail yacl.t. Sonic skippers ol large experience, to whom I have 
jhii the question, thougnl that notning snjrt oi 20 tons was at all 
til to keep the sea, except in fine weather. My own boat Corsair, 
a convened uleboai, 2.U. lengih. Mt..tiin. beam, and Hit. 6in. draft, 
has d^ne some fairiy extended cruising from the North Mincb 
to the So.ent. During lour years summer cruis.ng we" had oniy 
what we considered one severe brush with wind and sea in the 
open— off the North oi Ireland, crossing irom Is. ay to Lome— 
described by the Aieteoroiogieai Office «s "7, a moderate gale." It 
was two years since, the n.ght beiore Swansea regatta, wine'" 1 , 
s^me Yachtsmen wh| reeail, was postponed, as few even ot the 
larger boats arrived in time. My companions (we had no paid 
hand), Mr. L. li. Chatwyu and Dr. u. J. Kauffmann, who are 
both "cruising - * yachtsmen, agree with me thai it was an experience 
we are not anxious to repeat, and that, but for the power of the 
boat, we shou.d not have come through it. 'I he question seems 
to be: Does a small vessel reaiiy escape ail heavy weather on deck 
if she possesses a long, flat (1 lor, great lifting power forward and 
alt, and is hove to in tunc, rides to a drogue, or is run with 
extremely moderate canvas We did so on me occasion spoken 
of, bui we have not sufficient experience to say more, and no 
thirst to make the necessary exper.ments to enable us to do so. 
We shou d like to take the opinions of some experienced yachts- 
men among the readers of The Fie,d in respect ot the sea-keeping 
capacity of smail yachts, and the type best suited to reaiiy hard 
cruising in open wa.er. W. Macneil Dixon. 
Mason College, Birmingham. 
Edin>r Tlw Ph'Jd : 
A most inien sting question, and likely to prove profitable to 
all cuiKcnml in cruising. May I venture to record an experi- 
ence, although the boat to be -poken of is slightly over the limit 
mentioned by Sir. Dixon. In 1S74 John H. Cooper, builder of 
pilot bouis. ai I'lll, n>'ar Uristol. for over fifty years now, built 
and launched a cutter yacht on his pilot bjat lines, 48ft. I.o.a., 
43ft. lin. between perpendiculars. 12ft. 9in. .beam, about 8ft. oin. 
dp aft, and li tons Customs tonnage. Soon afterward she was 
bought by Mr. Ellis, a ['ill pilot of renown, who reduced her spars 
and sails from yacht dimensions to those suitab e for piloting. 
1he boat, called Christabel, had a long, flattish floor and gjod fnil 
lifting ends. 
At ihe end of September. 1S75, I sailed with Ellis for the west- 
ward of Lundy Island "seeking." I remember that on a Friday 
afternoon, alter being at sea a week, dirty weather brewed up from 
about S. W'., the wind increased in force through the night, and 
on Satutday fortnoon, finding we could no longer with advantage 
sail the vessel, we hove her to under very shortest canvas. At 
this time we were probably about forty to fifty miles westward of 
the is and, as we expected a New York mail steamer. 1 will not 
sa. i he force of the wind, but from previous experiences in that 
.and other cl annels and seas 1 knew it to be more than a moderate 
gale. 1 n Sunday morning, still hove to, with a heavy sea run- 
ning, bright and sunny aloft, but b. owing guns all the same, we 
sigh ed a large bark quite near us before the wind under close- 
reefed fcretopsail and two staysails; severa other sails were stowed 
in tatters. I was lying on a coil aft under the weather rail, the 
cabin hatch was open and our decks had on.y a few trickles of 
water on them occasionally, and we laid snug and comfortable, 
and as buoyant and dry as a "murre," if I may be permitted the 
phrase. As ihe hark rose on a sea, laboring heavily, her fcretop- 
sail and mainstaysail went' to ribbons out of the bolt ropes, and 
we very soon lost sight of her. In the evening the wind moderated 
and we bore up for I.undy. and about m.dnighl brought up in the 
midst of a small Heel shc.ttnng under the island. Before this, 
while running up to the Shutters on the west face, the boat ran 
very dry and easily, and made astonishingly good weaiher in 
the midst of a nasty, confused sea. 
About 3 o'clock A. M. Monday the wind flew round, and wc all 
had to slip and clear, for I.undy is not a charming spot under such 
conditions. Monday evening, having missed the "mailer." we put 
Ellis aboard another homeward bound bark, w hich showed signs 
of having been in the late d.sturbances, and we then bore up for 
Jlfraccmbe to wait our phot's return, to go "seeking" again. 
W'e were four all told aboard the Christabel, but one of us, 
the pilot's -on I ad I een th r • beiore, and r_mained hors de com'iat 
i r ujii iut ih breeze. I th nk ae had on.y been one rip tu sea be- 
ll, re. We had no consultation about drogues or sea anciiors, and 1 
do not^emember seeing one aboard. W'e simply rode it out, secure 
in a good ship and gear, and on looking back 1 can truly say that, 
during the years thai have passed, although I have since piloted 
, off the W'olf and I. zaid. and knocked about a bit generally, 1 
never found myself aboard a better form of cruiser than the 17- 
' tonner Christabel; and if I cou d afford some elements a trifle difR- 
, cult lo acqu re, I wou.d hie me to I and try and persuade Mr. 
• Cooper to bui.d me a cutler, or perhaps a ketcn, trom his fiity 
years' storehouse, secure (peace be with modern designers!) that 
1 shou d have a real knockabout cruiser. As to size and for 
j pleasure work as against piloting in all seasons — well, in this re- 
spect ol size and dralt, chacun a son gout. 
May I add. that in my humbie judgment, Charles Livingston's 
i Geneih, designed for kussell A len recent.y, is very like the type 
of puot b„at. bar modern overhang, rake of sternpost, and draft 
.under fool, which, no doubt, are improvements lor those who 
like thtni; but, alter all, it is a curious commen.ary that we cannot 
numb better Mr. Cooper's methods, save and except speed, per- 
haps. Jr. Cecil Lane. 
Plymouth. 
Editor The Field: 
1 was nu....nd in the two letters on the above subject that 
appeared in your last two numbers, and now add my own, or, at 
least, three cf my own, experiences to the list. 
i he first happened about se\en years ago in a 3-ton cutter called 
Spray which belonged to my brother and myself. She was 24ft. 
o.a.. 20ft . I.w.h. 6ft. beam, and Sit. 3.n. drait; she was a fub-bodied 
boat, with a displacement of 5 tons. 
We were sheltering trom a gaie of S. wind in Loch Ryan on 
•our wav back to the Clyde from a Channel cruise, and left it one 
morning in a very light NAY. wind and a very heavy sea (owing 
io the gale of the two ilays before) as soon as we got outside. We 
at first tjinught oi pulling back, but after watching the shore for 
a bit t'ouud we were slowly leaving it. so decided to carry on. 
About an hour and a half ifter getting out of the loch we lost 
sight of land, owing to rain coining on. and plenty of wind along 
i\ i h it. The latter, getting stronger and -stronger till it was blow- 
ing a gale, and of course makiiit! a verv nasty sea. coming as it did 
Sctoes ll e swell left by ihe imiMIh rlv uale of the two previous days. 
W'e got two reefs d>wn, and W'Hi'il have hauled down the third, but 
by this time the sea wa> rather heavy, and one of the crew (which 
consisted of three all l<>U|> »a> too frightened to do anything, 
.and tlie seas were comma ovei forward in lumps, about 2ft. of 
solid green water, a good pan of which washed right ail, but 
wj>v. little came into the cockpit, which was a water-tight, self* 
.emptying one. Our compass having gone wrong that trip, we 
were not quite sure where we would make ntir landfall, but knew 
that if we kept her close-hauled we wou'd make it some pan of 
the coast of Arran. The course was to windward of Ailsa Craig, 
but owing to the very heavv sea and the boat being so small I ex- 
pected that she wou'd make so much leeway that we Shou d he 
to leeward of it when we sighted it: you may therefore judsre our 
surprise when we sighted it on the 'ee beam, abmt two mi e= dis- 
tant, feeling very thankful to be ab'e tn give her sheet and run 
into the lee. On arrivlne there thp snoa'Ts were smp v- awful, and 
in everv conceivable direction The boat wai rb"d five or six 
times in as manv second*. We lei "o th» anch-"- in about fi»e 
fathoms verv close in. and tr>t a'l «ail« off as n-tirk'v as possible, 
verv g'ad of a rest after com : n<r through the b' surest sea we had 
ever seen up to that tims. The three b : t? waves wlv~h n'wnvs 
follow each other in heavv seas seem-d to h° about the he-eht 
of our crossirees. I several times saw the d*rMn<? crests of t^m 
over the peak of the mainsail wh°o I was tjUt^qj stepr<nsr The 
head litrhtkeeper on the cra ; " tn'd us he Vnd On summer) befo 
seven vears on the nek. and had n-v se°n it ly-vvrinr so hard. 
Put throughout the whoV pa«affe ' h?r) no fp^r of anvthin"-. ps *he 
boat was tretting to windward, and i knew all the gear was good, 
hrv : nc fi'tpd it r"v«=e'f. _, , 
My revt experience wa<= romiri"' '>'"" lV'ast Lou eh to the < yde 
tn a ?.>rate-. hui'i bv Fv f e of Wr'ie. for racine. She had her 
bio- ra^inrr mainsail on. and we had no f««>«afj so had to sat' h^r 
wi'h her long, heavv boo^i ovr the s ; de and a 'on-? bowsnrit 
that <=hnrk the whole boat pvrrv d've took, evrn ►Imneh we bad 
no jib set on it. as we sai'ed her uad;r thre«-rp e :ed and 
stavpp'l. This r'me we had not so much wind a= on the former 
occasion, but owine to the bie. heavv sp-rs. we mode much worse 
weather of it; it was the verv worst expsrisn-'e I ever had in a 
yacht The crew aeain on tlvs nc~asion consisted of three, nnd 
one of them got so seasick tha* T actua'lv thought h- >va= d°ad 
once when I went to see how he was gettioor on. wnt*-h fact of 
course fave a fright. Well, we battered at it a" n git. the 
wind heine N E.. the owner of the boat hnp-'n"' he wou'd not carrv 
away his bowsprit, and I wishing everv dive she took fh»t it »">« d 
snap, as she wou'd have been so much nnr» comfortable without 
it. W,e cou'd not get it reefed in. as the rierng was stee . and 
■spliced to the exac« lengths to shack'e in. and ihf-refore cou'd ti«f 
be shorlcnrd. Hv da"brcak In the mornincr dhp month "-as Apr ) 
we were about two iivUs to leeward of A"sa C--a : e. and our su-k 
companion was so bad that we thought something more than sea- 
si- kness was wrone with him. so we dee'ded to run bn"k to \.-<rh 
Rvan ancl get a doctor to him; but as soon as we got into the 
smooth water he pot better. 
This trip proved verv conc'us : ve'y that racing spars are not the 
things to d-< Channel passages with: a^o tl-a*. for a very heavv sea, 
a boat with a heavv dlsp'acement is far the hest. as I also 
f~und again in August last, when making a passige in mv own 
5 ton cutter Petrel from Douglas. Is'e of Man. to Hnngor. Pe'fast 
Lough. W'e left Douglas with one reef down, w-nd S W. and fresh- 
ening: off the point of Avre we had to take down two m .re and 
put the sphfire jib on the bowsprit, a'so house the topmast; then 
started to run up Channel, the ?ea getting bifjrer and bigger as we 
left the Isle of Man. and the wind still fresl-eninp. ti" we had to 
lower the throat till the jaws of the gaff were ri-rht down on the 
borm. We put her on a brqad reach for the Irish coa=l. so g< to 
smoothen the water as soon as possib'e; mnde a landfa'l at Sxtl'l 
Mart : n Lightship, then ran up the shore to the Cop'and<. and 
round to Pangor. where we let go at A A M. One of our «;rew on 
this occasion distinguished himself bv making tea bv ho'ding ihe 
kett'e on the Primus stove (1 do not know to this d-iv how he 
managed it), and after it was made it was a'most as difficu't to get 
it info mugs and drink it. Af'.er all hands had a sleep I went 
ashore and got a paper, and found one artie'e headed "Ca'e in the 
Channel," which, on read ! ne, I found was the notice of the gale 
we had been in the night before, saving the Channel steamers had 
a'l had rough passages, etc. An o'd boatman we met whi'e ashore 
amused us by his rep'v to us. He asked us where we had come 
from; on our telling htm. he said "Well, yez wou'd have p'enty 
of weather in the Channel last n'ght, I know." Petrel, like the 
o'd Spray, is a full-bodied boat, with cruising sails and spars, and 
last, not least, a very short bowsprit. She is 5 tons by L'oyds' 
register, but 7 displacement; and all that night she hard'y took any 
green water. Robert S. Banner. 
Gourock Slip, Gourock, N. R. 
Editor The Field: 
Mr. Dixon, in his letter, raises poin*s concerning the behavior 
of small craft at sea on which 1 should much like to be enlight- 
ened. , . 
When we speak of a seaworthv vesse', I think it i= as well to 
know exactly what we mean. Now. personally, 1 shou'd d.fine a tho- 
r ughly seaworthy small craft (thai is to =ay, a vesse not exceed llg 
10 tons) as a yacht, which possesses the following characteristics, 
each of them being brought to the highest efficieney in the craft 
in question, and neither being p aced before or af'.er another: 1. 
Capacity to lie to in safety throughout the b'ggest breeze and sea 
which can possib'y occur during an intended voyage. 2. Capacity 
to claw off a lee shore under adverse circum stances in similar 
weather. 3. The highest possible power of runn ng in safety before 
a heavy wind and sea. I say highest p'-ssib'e berause I take it 
there is always a po'-tt at which a yacht will be pooped even if 
specially built for running, and that one therefore cannot have 
perfection in running powers. 
If to these qualities ..an be added general handiness so much 
the better, but in my opinion ihe three essentials shou'd not be 
sacrificed in a seagoinp small cruiser for any unreasonable amount 
of handiness. Certainty of staying under all conditions is all that 
is required. I do not wish to lay down the law in these matters, but 
this is how the case stands in mv op'nion. 
Now, my friend Mr Dixon is dealing with No. 1, and I should 
like the opinion of your readers on Nos. 2 and 3. I am quite 
convinced that the proper thing for a small cruiser to do. if pos- 
sible, is to run for it. No advantage can be obtained in a small 
cruiser in heaving to if a comlortable harbor can be obtained under 
one's lee, though one may be caught on a lee shore, as I have been 
when running, is an impossibility. Now what, in your readers' 
opinions, are the essentials for a safely running boat? Is there 
a point al which the counter-sterned boat will be pooped when the 
sharp stern will run f»ee? If so, then all small boa.s shou d be 
buiit with sharp sterns. Now, 1 can find nothing for or against 
a counter as a cruising adjunct for sma I crait in "Yacht and lloat 
Sailing," unless we take the remark on Clyde sailing b ats on 
page 358, that "it is questionao.e whether a short, neai counter 
could not be made 'to pay,' at least in heavy weather," and this 
probably refers to the boats irom a racing more than a cruising 
point of view. Mr. E. F. Knight, in his "Sailing," calls a 
counter an abomination, and the reverse of an ornament, and so 
do many other writers. If this is the case, 1 am ai a loss to under- 
stand why design atter design for smail yachts is published, each 
of them adorned with a counter stern, while in the "Yachtsman" 
designing competitions what appears to me a most serviceable 
form of sharp stern is termed unconventional. I do not seek to 
criticise, but merely ask tor information, though trom my ex- 
perien es on Mr. Dixon's Corsair I have the greatest respect for 
her lifeboat stern. 
I shou.d like also to write on my second point, but my letter is 
already too long. The only question I will ask is this: Why is 
a boat which is cut away fore and aft suppjsed to point higher 
to windward than a b«it with a m jderaie torefoot ? Are the crack 
racing yachts- cul away merely to reduce iheir wetted surface and 
to assist their staying powers, or d j they c'aw to windward bet- 
ter on this account than the yacht with the tolerab'y long keel. 
Ovurjiang forward in moderation is a'so most va'uah'e. as I 
have learnt -from mv cruising this summer: but how far can it be 
carried out with advantage? . L. Doughton Chatwin. 
41 Waterloo street, Birmingham. 
A Fast Cruiser. 
There is at the present time a strone indication of a 
reaction against the extreme scow and fin types in favor 
of yachts in which accommodation is a tlis'inctive feature. 
The lines here given show a yacht of the fast cruiser 
type, well cut away below in accordance with sneed 
requirements, but at the same time paving very satisfac- 
tory accommodation for cruising:. She was designed by 
Mr, B. B. Crowninshie'd. of Boston, and will be built 
at orce. Mr. Crownirshieid has now in hand several 
desisT? for cruisers of various sizes. The dimensions 
and further details will appear next week. 
Tl e Forfst and Stream is put to press each week on Tuesday. 
Correspondence intended tor pubbcat'-n should reach us at the 
latest by Monday, and as much earliet as practicable. 
Varuna* 
The steam yacht Varuna, Eugene Tliggins. arrived at 
New York on Nov. 14 from Bordeaux, after a cruise of 
just two weeks less than a year. Sailing from New 
York cn Nov. 27. 1897. she visited the Mediierranean 
and Black Sea. and on the breaking out of the war she 
was laid up at Venice, her owner traveling in Europe. 
She was recently fitted out ancl on Nov. 1 Mr. Higgins 
joined her at Bordeaux, in company with Messrs. Alan 
Arthur. Leslie Cotton. Wodd and Dr. Mitchell. The 
following is a summary of the log: 
Left Bordeaux at 7:30 A. M. Tuesday, Nov. r, and 
took departure from whistle buoy, ou'.side Gironde*, 
moderate breeze and fine weather. Distance run from 
Bordeaux down river from departure, sixty-four miles. 
Saturday. Nov, 5, light and variable winds; 3 A. M. ar- 
rived off Funchal Bay. and anchored 3:10 A. M. Dis- 
tarce run from yesterday noon. 205 miles. 
Total distance from Bordeaux to Madeira, r.185 miles; 
average speed from departure to Madeira, thirteen miles 
per hour; time of passage, three days, thirteen and a 
half hours; including one hour difference in time, three 
davs and fourteen and a half hours. 
Tctal distance Madeira to Sandy Hook, 2.893 miles. 
Time of passage, tight days and eighteen hours, includ- 
ing three and a half hours' difference in time, Aver- 
age speed. 1378 miles per hour. 
Capt. Troyler is still in command of the yacht. 
Gilberts Bar Y. C 
Waveland. Fla.. Nov.' 8.— The Gilberts Bar Y. C. 
held their usual monthly regatta on Nov. 5, the wind 
being sou.htast and very light. 
First dass. 
E'apsed.- Corrected. 
A'batross 0 ol 20 0 51 20 
Penguin 0 53 H 0 32 28 
Wen by Penguin. C. B. B. Harrison, Sec'y, 
4?//fc |jf;wg0 and (§;ilhrif. 
LouisvilU Revolver Club. 
I o -isville, Ky., Nov, 8. — Louisville Revolver Club was re- 
organized on Oct. 15, with sixty members. A splendid range has 
been secured at 112 Third avenue, and no expense will be spared 
to fit it up handsomely, and to make it the finest in the country. 
'I he room is 3u by I25it.. A new steel target box and bullet 
catcher has been placed in the range and the first official shoot 
took place (Jet. 21, There will be three official shoot. ng nights 
each- week — Tuesday, Thursday and Saturday — when a l scores 
will be recorded in the various contests. Twenty gas jets will 
give amp e light around the front of the target, and at each 
distance an arm of fi^e jets, protected by a hood, will be placed. 
'Ihe cleaning table will allow twenty members at one time, past 
experience having taught that an extra large tab e is necessary, 
as each member cleans his revolver thoroughly before going home 
for the n.ght. 
The _ waits will be painted black and adorned with pictures. 
A railing separates the cleaning table from the range proper. 
Revolvers are loaded on'y when members' names are read out 
to take position on the firing point, and every caution has been 
taken to avoid acc. dents. W hen in position on the firing point 
at any distance the shooter's back is turned to the part of club 
room fi led with members, and new beginners are not as nervous 
as when members are standing at their sides offering suggestions. 
This rattles the person considerably, and our new arrangement 
overcomes this. Sportsmen when visiting our city are always 
welcome to visit our club room and range. The following gentle- 
men were elected lo otfice lor one year: R. S. Witherspoon, 
1'iesident; Dr. Li. (J, Rees, Vice-President; Eugene li. Dye, Sec- 
retary; Mead Board, Treasurer, and Sim Watkins, Uffi.'ial 
Scorer. Board of Dire tors: 11. S. Gilbert, H. G. Walker, Sim 
W'atkins, VV, C. Magruder and Geo. C. Benedict. 
Detectives Hickcy and Donahue joined at the last meeting, and 
are anxious 10 become expert shots. Dr. B. G. Rees is at 
Cumber and River, fishing tor bass. lie writes to the angler 
members of the club that he is having fine sport. 
The following are the scores of the first official shoot, standard 
American target, 10yds.: 
E. B. Dye 86. Dr. T J. J. Meder S5, R. T. Chapman 75, H. S. 
Gilbert 68, F. M. Taylor 6t, D. C. Hagerman 48, Mead Board 31, 
A. J. Schulten 33, Henry young. Jr.. 39, J. C. Grinstead 22, 
J. D. Hughes 26. O. VV. McCarty 25, H. G. Walker 10. 
Iwenty yards, Standard American target: H. S. Gilbert 72, E. 
15. Dye 09, Dr. T. J. J. Meder 65. \V. C. Magruder 46, F. M. 
laylor 46, J. D. Hughes 16, Ed F. Herms 12. J. C. Grinstead 1L 
E. B. Dve, Soc'y. 
Cincinnati Rifle Association. 
Cincinnati, O., Nov. 13.— The following scores were made in 
regular competi.ion by members of the Cincinnati Rifle Associa- 
tion, at Four-Mile Mouse, Reading Road. Conditions, 2J0yds., 
off-hand, at the German ring target. Pavne was declared king 
with a score of 214. Payne was high for the Uckottsr trophy 
with a s.ore of 227. Hasenzahl and Payne began a series ot 50- 
shot matches last shoot, the former making 1.034, the latter 1,057 
In to-day's match Payne scored 1,0,1, Hasenzahl 996. Scores: 
King target: 
Gindele 23 22 21 22 19 23 21 23 20 19—210 
Payne 21 i2 tl 23 24 19 21 22 19 21—214 
R berts 8 23 23 2. 20 2l 24 24 10 2 — 208 
Nestler 19 18 21 25 2 j 19 22 i9 'M 21—201 
W'einheimer 20 22 16 16 20 17 15 13 12 22—173 
Hasenzahl ,.2i 22 14 21 21 22 18 17 12 22—191 
Topf 12 8 19 23 16 22 22 18 12 16—168 
Herman 7 18 19 19 22 24 1 1 20 21—151 
Drube 23 21 21 21 15 19 23 19 11 15—187 
Strickmier 23 21 18 22 20 17 20 17 15 23—196 
H onor target. Special scores. 
Gindele , 25 ,9 22-65 218 218 218 
1'ayne 21 22 1H— 59 2 7 219 219 
R. berts 21 19 23— f 4 205 202 1 5 
Nestler ' 22 18 21—61 208 200 2"0 
W'einhe r mer 15 25 20—60 201 lit 1S9 
Hasenzahl 19 15 16—50 211 209 207 
Topf '. 12 19 21-52 l c 7 177 168 
Herman 17 22 21—60 113 1 «8 144 
Drube 20 H 20 -51 200 195 1Q2 
Strickmier 20 22 15—57 214 206 199 
If yro want your shoot to be announced hers send in 
notice like the following: 
Fixtures. 
Nov. 16-17.— Sioux City, la.— Soo Gun Club's tournament; live 
birds and 'argets. E. R. Chapman. See'y. 
Nov. 15-17.— Eau Claire. Wis.— Dan R. Scammon's tournament; 
two dav« at targets; or|e at live birds. 
Nov.' 16.— S ; ne-ac, N. .T.^-Twentv-five bird handicap at Bunn's; 
$15 entrance, birds included. Commences at lg o'clock,. 
