t>EC. 10, 1898.] 
FOREST AND STREAM, 
467 
Mr. Palmer said in his section of the State there are 
, many fine trout streams, to which trout from the sea 
i would ascend to cast their spawn, but for the sawmills 
1 and dams. He had undertaken to have fishways built, 
but in some cases the owner or operator of a mill 
1 could barely earn a living for himself and family, and in 
I such cases the State should bear part or all the ex- 
penses of building fishways. He once met Com. 
Bracket, and drew a hill to provide for this, but some 
members of the Legislature got up and protested, and 
''knocked the bill higher than a kite." 
Mr. George H. Mackay, an officer of the Audubon 
Society, said he had tried to secure the_ passage of 
more stringent laws for protection of certain birds, but 
had found it up-hill work. He pronounced the law 
allowing the sale of game during the closed season a 
vicious one. Birds should not be killed during their 
migration. In his judgment the only way to get any- 
thing is to go for it, and go for it hard. What we 
now have can only be saved by aggressive legislation. 
Mr. C. C. Munn, of Springfield, president of the Camp 
Comfort Club, said that better enforcement of existing 
laws was greatly needed. The best sportsmen seek 
the woods and streams less for the purpose of securing 
game and fish than to get in contact with nature. But 
the trout and the birds furnished an incentive to take 
needed recreation. In his section resort to the law 
against trespass had been found ineffectual in attempting 
to protect streams which had been stocked by clubs 
and individuals. In Westfield many streams have been 
thus stocked without being posted. 
Mr. Charles H. Raymond, president of the Rehoboth 
Farmers' Club, stated that in his section the farmers are 
in sympathy with the association, and suggested that if 
all the representatives present would go back and spread 
the sentiments and feeling of this conference much good 
would result. 
Mr. William B. Phinney, a vice-president of the Lynn 
Fish and Game Protective Association, and Mr. Thomas 
L, Burney, a member of the same, reported that their 
club would heartily co-operate with the Massachusetts 
Fish and Game Protective Association in any attempt it 
might make for improvement in the laws or in their 
better enforcement. The question was asked whether it 
is legal to search a man in the woods for ferrets. 
Dr. Samuel H. Spalding, speaking for the sportsmen and 
fishermen of Hingham, said those he represented were 
in favor of increased protection. His town had appro- 
priated $200 or $300 yearly for the enforcement of exist- 
ing laws. He reported that there had been a marked 
increase of smelts in his section, due to the work of 
associations and the towns. Most, of the quail, he said, 
are picked up by Sunday gunners. He reported that 
snaring and ferreting are carried on in the outskirts of 
the town, and said there was need of "live wardens" in 
such districts. 
The secretary stated that he had received many letters 
from clubs not represented in the conference expressing 
deep interest in the cause of protection and the purpose 
of the meeting, and urging the enactment of more strin- 
gent laws and calling for better enforcement of existing 
statutes and for more efficient wardens. 
Henry H. Kimball, Sec'y- 
such manner as the law allows." The law allows them 
to be slaughtered. Of course we must be lenient, we 
might hurt some one's feelings. I am very sorry, but I 
can't take off my hat to Mr. Carney, and I believe he is a 
good fellow at that. L. H. Hascall. 
Hounds and Still-Hunters. 
Milwaukee, Wis., Nov. 29. — Editor Forest and 
Stream: I notice that Mr. Emerson Carney takes excep- 
tion to my little article on hounds and still-hunting ; 'and 
many more will do the same, I expect,- for most men like 
to hurrah their own game. 
I have read Mr. Carney's articles with a great deal of 
pleasure, and i believe him to be a good all-round sports- 
man. But with all due respect to hini, I must say there 
are a few things he don't know. My article is no more 
misleading than his. His statement that hounding 
tends to drive out that which is not killed I beg to differ 
with. I have hunted over the same ground for several 
years, and never failed to rind plenty of deer. Now, if the 
hounds run them out of the country, they would not be 
there. Hounds will not make deer any more than foxes 
or rabbits leave a certain locality. They come right back 
when the hounds are thrown off. You will always find 
plenty of them over the same ground the next day. That 
I know from experience, and quite a long one, and so does 
any man who has hunted with hounds— if he knows any- 
thing. j«'< - 
I have no objections to Mr. Carney's still-hunting, if he 
enjoys it. In regard to the fairness of it, it's a matter of 
record that the still-hunters are slaughtering all the large 
game, and nine-tenths of it goes to market. I would like 
to ask Mr. Carney why market-hunters don't use dogs. 
It is not so certain. Oh, no; they can't kill them fast 
enough. They prefer to follow the deer until they lie 
down and kill them when they jump up. 
In regard to the men I mentioned, 1 certainly mean 
fair still-hunting. There are quite a few experts on the 
face of the earth, and it has been my luck to be acquainted 
with a few of them. I am no slouch myself, but I am per- 
fectly willing to take off my hat to them. If Mr. Carney 
has any doubts and will come this way in the season, I 
will find the people and the price. There have been over 
6.000 deer killed and shipped to market in the State of 
•Wisconsin this season; and it's a very short one of twenty 
days — all by still-hunting. 
As Game Warden Zinn says, "Five years more of such 
indiscriminate slaughter will practically exterminate 
them." 
I did not write my former article looking for any argu- 
ment, but my business takes me over Michigan and Wis- 
consin, and I am not too old to learn. I am looking on and 
see what is going on every year, and it makes me mad, and 
if the ways and methods of the majority of still-hunters 
are all right, I am thankful I am not a still-hunter. It 
may be a good thing, and it may be the only right way, 
but I am obliged to doubt it. I have many friends, good 
sportsmen, who still-hunt deer, and claim to enjoy it. 
Probably on the same principle that a man enjoys tough 
steak. If our forefathers were living to-day they would 
probably be hunting with the hounds if the law would let 
them. For I believe the old boys were the right sort. 
Mr. Carney says: "As the game diminishes, we must be. 
lenient with those who take advantage of the game in 
Lake Superior Deer Hunting. 
(Concluded from page 447.) 
1 have never found it necessary to hunt on the Sabbath 
day, and my first Sabbath after the incidents last narrated 
I spent in camp in company with Hearn. We did the 
necessary camp work, and spent a part of the day in 
reading and in writing letters. The other boys, however, 
hunted. The following is an extract from the notes I 
made at the time: "Sunday, Oct. 30.— Gilmer got 3 shots 
— no deer. Winters 5 shots — no deer. Bender 4 shots 
and killed a small deer. Baur drew a bead on a deer, but 
concluded it might be White — his companion — and did 
not shoot. The deer skipped." 
Probably not a day passed but several shots were fired 
at deer, but a great" deal of it was snap-shooting. The 
deer might be standing or lying under some thick 
branches, and possibly branches weighted with snow, for 
snow fell at least every twenty-four hours, and as the 
hunter approached it bounded off behind some convenient 
cover. A few momentary glimpses and as many quick, 
sharp reports of a rifle, and the chase was over. It would 
be of no use to follow that deer if you missed him. He 
would lead you through the worst cover to be found, and 
leave you at night exhausted and possibly lost. 
On Monday Bender and Winters stayed in camp. Baur 
and I circled Witch Lake and pulled off to the south- 
east around some barren hills and small lakes. We sat 
down to rest on the top of a small steep hill, steep on all 
sides but the northeast, the direction we were going. 
After chatting a while, we were brought to our feet very 
suddenly by the appearance of two deer heads over the 
crest to the northeast of us. They saw us the instant they 
poked their heads high enough for us to see them, and 
whirling around dashed back down the hill. As we sprang 
to our feet we opened on them. I shot twice and Baur 
three times, but they were dodging through brush and 
leaping over logs at lightning speed, and we failed to 
score a hit. They were about 100yds. from us when they 
whirled to run, and at about 250yds. were completely 
hidden in the dense shrubbery that covered the low lands 
in places. 
We went on north by northwest around the lake, seeing 
many tracks, but no deer tmtil we got into dense green 
woods, where the ground was covered with ground hem- 
lock, called by hunters shin-tangle. Here the deer had 
been feeding, and it looked much as if a flock of sheep 
had been turned loose. I was sitting on a log resting, and 
Baur was some steps in front of me, when he brought his 
gun up to his face, saying. "I see one! I see one!" This 
was followed by the roar of his big .45-90. and that by a 
craning of neck and peering through the smoke ; but Baur 
had made no new record. He had missed as usual. 
No deer were killed on Tuesday or Wednesday. On 
Thursday, White, Gilmer, Hearn and I went up the rail- 
road nearly two miles, separated by about 200yds., and 
started east, hunting in line toward the Michigamme 
River, which runs parallel with the railroad about two 
miles distant. We had gone about a mile, and I was on 
the right flank and was sitting on an uprooted sapling on 
the brow of a hill that went off steep to the eastward, 
when a dog came running from in front of the other 
boys, and going south at a lively clip. I jumped up and 
tried to get a bead on her, but I was some 50ft. above her 
and probably 100yds. distant, with many trees intervening, 
and could see her only when she passed through open 
spaces. I kept on trying to catch her in one of these 
holes between treetops, until she had passed the hill and 
was some 150yds. to the southeast of me, and still going, 
when, as a last resort. I shouted at her and she stopped, but 
with her fore parts behind a birch tree, L waited 
a moment for her to move, but as she did not seem dis- 
posed to do so, I drew on her close up to the tree and 
fired. She took a few jumps forward and turned a half 
somerset over a log. Before I got to her she was dead, 
shot through the bodv about 6in. back of the heart with 
a .32-20 Winchester. I doubt whether a larger bore gun 
would have done more effective work. 
Gilmer said he would help me to carry the deer to 
the lake, and we tied her to a pole and started off, leav- 
ing White and Hearn to go on with the hunt. We had 
never been in that locality, and did not know the proper 
course to the lake. So when we struck an old tote road fol- 
lowed it. thinking it led out to the railroad, and would 
take us nearer camp than the point we first meant to make 
on the lake would be. The road was so tortuous it was 
impossible to tell what its general direction was, so when 
we were satisfied we had toted that deer about far 
enough we laid it down to reconnoiter. We had laid it 
down several times as a matter of fact, but only to rest. 
This time we wanted to see where we were at. I was not 
a little surprised after a climb of several steep hills to the 
westward to look down on Witch Lake. Our burden was 
yet a half-mile east of the lake, and in the hilhest part of 
the hills. I went back to Gilmer and told him that we 
had a half-mile of the hardest kind of, climbing to reach 
the lake, and the only alternative was to go around the 
lake to the right or left, a distance of fully two miles. We 
concluded to try to make the lake, so shouldered our 
burden and started up the first hill, each carrying his gun 
in one hand and pulling himself up with the other by 
grasping bushes, roots and whatever came within reach. 
We made it in time, and hung the deer at the water s 
edge, where it could be easily loaded into our dugout, but 
that was the last time I carried a deer strapped to a pole. 
It's too tearing on the shoulder. After supper Gilmer 
and Lewis took the dugout and went after the deer, 
came back and reported that they could not tmd her. I he 
waves were running pretty high, and it was probably well 
for them they did not find her, It was enougn tor them 
to find their way to camp through the. darkness. The fol- 
lowing morning Gilmer and Proper brought the deer 10 
^During the day Proper killed a fine large eight-point 
buck in an open swamp about two miles northeast of 
camp That evening White, Hearn and Bender lelt us, 
and pulled out for home. The next day— Saturday- 
Winters and Baur were in the edge of a thicket on the 
north side of Witch Lake, when a large d,>e came trotting 
up toward Winters. He said he intended to let her come 
until she saw him and turned to run, exposing her side, 
when he would shoot. She came within ten or twelve 
steps of him, then whirled to run. lie brought Ins gun 
to his face and timed himself so as U> shoot her through 
or back of the shoulder; but as she whirled around 
she struck her head against a sapling and stopped 
just as he fired, his ball striking her forward of the 
shoulder in the brisket. Why he did not get her before 
she got out of gunshot he did not state. There was very 
little snow that evening, and though she bled some, she 
got away, let us hope not seriously hurt. 
The following day, Sunday, I walked out to where the 
foregoing had occurred, and made up my mind that Win- 
ters had been about as badly rattled as the djee'r: Mon- 
day I spent fishing, and Tuesday took a ramble over along 
the river. It was a warm, lazy day. I had just shot a big 
rabbit east of Witch Lake, and was heading for the 
lake and camp, when I heard a dog belonging to our 
neighboring camp trailing something near the lake. 
There were two dogs with that camp, lr.it as they had not 
been allowed to run deer, nor go far from camp, I sup- 
posed this one was trailing a rabbit. When I got to 
the top of the hill and looked down on the lake, I saw 
some of our boys fishing off logs, and a couple in 
the dugout near a beaver dam, while a hunter was fol- 
lowing the hound toward the south along the side of the 
hill. I took a position and waited developments. The 
hound was coming around back of me, and presently a 
small deer came dashing over a ridge to the northeast of 
me, and I took a crack at it, but missed. It sped on 
through a tamarack swamp bordering a small lake, mak- 
ing a gray streak until it crossed a small ridge and went 
out of sight. The hound I did not see. Presently, bang, 
bang, bang, went a Winchester north of the center oi the 
Witch Lake. A moment later I saw two puffs of smoke 
from the duge>ut. and when I reached camp there were 
two more deer hung to the pole, one killed from the 
boat by Winters, the other by Lewis, 
The following morning snow was falling, and we 
stayed in camp. In the afternoon Winters went to Re- 
public on the train and came back in the evening, bring- 
ing some eggs and apples. The following clay, Thurs- 
day, Baur baked some apple pies. 1 took the dugout, and 
rowing across the lake, tied up at the east end and struck 
out, intending to hunt until tired and come home by boat. 
I was going south over a burned piece of ground of in- 
numerable hills and hollows, and had reached the summit 
of a ridge, when a deer sprang up some 5oycK in front of 
me, and with one bound cleared the side of the ridge, land- 
ing on level ground at the base of the ridge. The eleva- 
tion must have been 18 to 20ft., but the side 01 the hill 
was pretty steep. J was astonished, but did not hesitate to 
bring my" gun up and take a crack at it when in mid-air. 
If I had held my fire until the deer struck the ground I 
might have hit it as it gathered to make the jump into a 
convenient thicket. But it got away, and-l tramped on 
until I came to the timber, where two bucks had been 
chasing each other, and timber cutters had left a large 
pine tree that had fallen up-hill and rested on a mound 
with the butt end some 10ft. off the ground. I stepped 
onto this log and walked out onto the butt end. where 
I had a good view of the forest about as far as I could 
hope to hit anything. Another advantage in being up oft 
the ground is that a deer is not so apt to see or smell the 
hunter, - , , 
I had stood there some moments, when 1 saw a buck 
and doe off to my left, but had no chance for a shot. A 
moment later 1 saw a deer stop in front of me. but 
could see only a spot seemingly about: the size of my hand. 
I knew it was a deer, and after waiting a few seconds tor 
it to move drew a bead on the spot and fired. 1 aimed-to 
shoot past a tree, and drew So close! may have wabbled 
into the tree, for the deer did not move. I yanked the 
lever and drew on the spot more carefully. Tins time the 
spot vanished, and I saw a deer further off hoist its flag 
and trot away. I waited some moments, thinking that 
possibly the other buck would show himself, but he 
didn't, so I went down to where the deer had stood. 
There' were plenty of deer tracks, and I had no means of 
picking out the right one, only by the way the deer had 
bounded off. There was no blood, but I followed what 1 
decided was the right trail in the snow a distance ot 
about forty steps, and walked on to a fine large buck. He 
had fallen "headlong and died without a struggle. My ball 
had entered the point of his right shoulder, and ranging 
back lodged against the skin on the left side. It was the 
same little .32-20. I hung him to a bent sapling and 
started for the boat, not caring whether I saw any more 
game or not, but before I reached the place a small doe 
with a full-grown fawn started to run around me, and I 
forgot for the moment that we had venison enough and 
to spare, and proceeded to kill both of them ; but the man- 
ner of doing it I will leave out here, for the reason that it 
has been written in these columns. I went for my boat, to 
find Proper had taken it and was sitting m ft about a 
quarter of a mile awav, fishing. I called to him and he 
came over to where I had the two deer piled up on two 
logs, that lay out into the lake. We loaded them into 
the boat and he took them to camp, while 1 walked 
around When I told the boys at camp that I had a rme 
buck out in the woods, they were considerably surprised, 
and Gilmer and Lewis went and brought him m. 
The next day, as we were tearing up camp, a wolf sur- 
enaded us with his doleful howl from across Witch Lake. 
G. W. Cunningham. 
Maine Deer. 
Boston, Nov. 26. — I will drop you a line and say that 1 
have just' returned from a trip to Muluncus, Me. I was 
there ten days, and -shot two bucks that weighed iSolbs. 
each The deer are verv plenty, and the house kept by- 
Mr A. S. Knight is all that a sportsman could desire. 
Ed. W. Messenger. 
Maine Big Game Record* 
The Bangor & Aroostook Railroad sends out a list of 
the big game shipped from stations along one line during 
November, showing totals of 1,347 deer, 77 moose and 19 
caribou. 
