[Dec. io, i8y8. 
ON LONG ISLAND, 
Money Defeats Guthrie. 
Nov 29— It was a great pity that the cozy club house of 
the Carteret Club, at Garden City, L. L, did not hold a large 
Crowd of spectators this afternoon. The weather was pleasant, and 
the performances of Capt. Money and C. S. Guthrie on the 
Carteret birds was as good as anything of a like nature that 1 
have ever seen. To score 97 and 96 respectively on any kind 
of birds at all is a big performance. Of course the birds to-day 
were not a lot of screamers, but they were a really good, fast 
lot, that with any wind to help them would have cut down the 
scores considerably. ... , . . i ij i_ 
Since both men were in the best of form, as may be told by 
looking at the scores, the birds were just the sort on which to make 
big scores, even in the Carteret Club's short, 30yd. boundary. 
They left the traps promptlv; Capt. Money had only four 
loafers, while Guthrie had but five; as the Pittsburger does not 
approve of "sitters," he religiously called every one of them "Iso 
bird"; every one, that is to say, except his 58th. When he cahed 
"Pull" for his 58th bird, No. 5 trap opened and a dark, big 
bird hopped out with a skip and a jump, landing about a yard 
to the right of the trap, facing toward the club house. Guthrie 
was thinking of something else, perhaps his previous miss, for 
he had just lost his 57th bird, and forgot about his rule of "No- 
birding" sitters. He slobbered the bird with both barrels as it 
flew in toward the club house, the pigeon just clearing the 
boundary before falling dead. Thus, out of a total of 204 birds 
trapped in the match, 195 left the traps immediately they were 
opened. 
Both Men Confident. 
Capt. Monev has been shooting in better form lately than he 
ever displayed before. His scores have been uniformly high 
for the past three months, while his health has also been of the 
best a few days now and then on the Jersey hills after grouse 
having kept him in capital shape physically. For these reasons 
the Captain felt confident of winning. 
Mr. Guthrie, on the other hand, was also very fit and well, and 
felt just as confident about winning as Capt. Money did. He 
has been for about two weeks the guest of Mr. W- bQtrttt 
Brokaw at the latter's winter residence at High Point, i\, C ., 
and has done his shape toward depleting the stock ol quail in 
the Tarheel State. He shot a few pigeons while in North 
Carolina, and found that he was in as good form as ever. Un 
his return to the North yesterday, he at once hunted up ( apt. 
Money, as he wished to get the match (made prior to his de- 
parture for the South) off his hands before leaving for his home 
in Pittsburg this evening. He wired Capt. Money at Oakland 
about 3:30 P. M. yesterday, but the message did not reach its 
destination until 7:30 A. M. this morning. The message stated 
that if to-day was fine, Mr. Guthrie would like to shoot the match 
if agreeable to Capt. Money. Short as was the notice, the tram 
leaving Oakland at 8:37 A. M., the Captain got out of bed, wired 
a favorable reply to Mr. Guthrie; also sent a wire to the Carteret 
Club about birds, then dressed, ate his breakfast and caught 
^Last^spring Mr. Guthrie defeated Capt. Money in a 100-bird 
race, which 1 had the pleasure of refereemg. When I saw Air. 
Guthrie yesterday afternoon, he asked me to come out and offi- 
ciate in the same capacity at this match. Naturally I accepted 
the compliment, with all the more pleasure because I felt that 
the match would be a redhot one; and it was. Owing to the lack 
of previous notice, not a soul witnessed the match outside of the 
two principals and myself, except Fred Knopf, the club's super- 
intendent, and his two active trapper boys. As I wanted to keep 
the score inside the club house, it was agreed that Fred Knopf 
should act as referee, with the proviso that in case of a question 
of rules the matter should be referred, to me. The match, 
however, really needed no refereeing on my part, for Knopl 
acted very efficiently, only being in doubt about one bird. This 
was a bird from No. 5 trap, killed by Capt. -Money a short 
distance from the trap with the snappiest of snap shots. Mr. 
Guthrie very disinterestedly at once ruled that there was no need 
of referring' the point to me, as in his opinion the bird was well _ 
off the ground when killed. 
Could not Scare Each Other. 
In the train from Long Island City I went into the "smoker,'' 
while the two principals occupied jointly a scat in a day coach, 
When we again joined forces at Garden City, I found that they 
had been regaling each other with tales of their, prowess at the 
traps on recent occasions. Mr. Guthrie said to me: "The 'old 
man's' been trying to scare me by telling me what sccres he has been 
making lalelv! He can't scare me one bit, for I have been watch- 
ing his scores in the papers, and know just what he's been doing. I 
was never in better shape in my life, and will have no excuse 
to make if he beats me, which I don't think he will do." 
Capt. Money also said to me privately: "He's very confident, 
and is certainly shooting well enough to warrant his being so. 
But I feel as fit as a fiddle, and will let him know at the end 
of the match that he's been in a shooting match. 1 shouldn't 
be a bit surprised if I killed 98 to-day." Well, I didn't quite 
agree with him about the 98, but I did believe that there would be 
a shooting match, 
Owing to the congested state of traffic on the Long Island 
R. R„ which was due to Saturday's blizzard and the wreck of a 
snow plow at Queens, we didn't reach the grounds until about 2 
o'clock; consequently no time was lost in preliminary work, each 
man only shooting four or five byes to see that everything was in 
working order. No misses were recorded in the shooting of the 
byes, though 'one or two good, fast birjis were trapped. 
It had been thought that there would be a great glare from 
the sun on the snow, but the glare was not as bad as might 
have been expected. Still the sun shone in the shooters' right 
eyes very strongly for the first half of the match, causing birds 
with a right-quartering tendency from Nos. 4 and 5 traps to be hard 
to locate. 
Notwithstanding the heavy fall of snow on Saturday, there was 
no snow on the grounds. This was due to the high circular fence 
around the club's property, which acted as a snowshed, the gale 
eddying around the center of the grounds and piling up the snow 
all around the fence until it was heaped level with its top. 
Guthrie Won the Toss. 
Guthrie won the toss and went to the score ahead of the Captain. 
The latter, who had in his hurry left his shooting coat behind him, 
was wearing a knitted shooting jacket that he had borrowed under- 
neath his own coat. This was rather too much clothing for him. 
and he lost his second bird dead out of bounds. Off came the 
knitted jacked, and the Captain set in to catch Guthrie, who was 
cutting down his birds like a winner. In the 12th round Guthrie 
lost a bird dead out of bounds- that would have been scored in an 
80yd. boundary. Capt. Money killed his bird, and the .two were 
tied. For the next 28 rounds they remained tied, the tie being 
broken by Guthrie losing a fast bird from No. 3 that got away 
without any perceptible damage. It was a hard bird to see, but 
flew apparently true as a die. This put the Captain^ one ahead. 
As he said: - "Here's where we part company!" So they did 
for the next 11 rounds, the score being again a tie at the end of 
the 53d round, when Capt. Money lost a fast bird, a driver from 
No. 1 trap, that fell dead out of bounds well within a 50yd. 
boundary. Both had now killed 51 out of 53 shot at! Great 
shooting 1 
The Tie Broken for Good. 
The tie did not hold for long, as Guthrie in his 57th round lost 
a good bird from No. 1 that flew straight away; the first barrel 
■ had feathered it, but the second did not seem to touch it. This 
gave the Captain a lead of one, that was soon made two, when 
Guthrie lost his next bird in the manner described in the begin- 
ning of this report. From this point he pulled himself together 
and ran out with an unfinished run of 42, the second highest 
run of the' match, Capt. Money's run of 50 straight, from the 3d 
to the 53d round, taking precedence- After the 58th round Capt. 
Money kept his lead of two until the 73d round, when he lost 
a towerer from No, 4 trap that was hit hard with the first barrel ; ' 
it turned sharply and came back for the club house, Capt. Money 
misjudging its flight and not hitting it with his second barrel. 
It fell dead just behind the back boundary. They were thus 
one bird apart, with 27 more to shoot at — anybody's race. As, 
however, each killed out straight, the race ended in a victory for 
Capt. Monev by the score of 97 to 90. 
With a wire fence for a back boundary Capt. Money would hav e scored 
99 in a 50yd. boundary; Guthrie would have scored 98 in an 80yd. 
boundary. It will be noticed that Capt. Money killed his 100 
birds, and that 198 out of the 200 shot at were gathered. 
The first 100 birds flew very well, but when the sun went be- 
hind a cloud and the sky became overcast the birds did not fly as 
fast as at first, the last 30 birds trapped, however, went away 
from the traps as quickly as any of those trapped earlier in the 
race. 
Captain Money's Position. 
The most interesting feature of the match to me was the change 
in Capt. Money's attitude while at the- score. In years gone 
by he used to place his gun to his shoulder once or twice, and 
then ask: "Are you ready?" When he got the answer back, 
"Ready," he again placed the gun to his shoulder, "wiggling" 
the barrel up and down a little in a manner well remembered by 
shooters who have watched him shoot; he then lowered the butt 
slightly, placing it to his shoulder again when the trap was sprung 
and the bird was -visible. Now he keeps the gun to his shoulder 
and shoots quicker and with greater accuracy than ever he did. 
His first barrel was very deadly, the score showing 38 single-bar- 
rel kills; in about as many more instances he fired his second 
when it did not seem at all necessary, using it more to keep in 
practice than for any other reason. His double-figure runs were 
50. 19 and 27; Guthrie's were 11, 28, 15 and 42, unfinished. 
Guthrie is apparently almost careless at the score. As he steps 
to the mark he calls, Are you ready?" As soon as he gets back 
the answer he puts his gun to his shoulder once or twice, but 
loses no time before calling "Pull." He almost invariably uses 
his second barrel, and plants it quickly and very effectively. He 
was not shooting as cleanly with his first barrel as Capt. Money, 
but his second was well in evidence. Capt. Money required 
his second three or four times very badly, saving himself by its 
use on his 35th, 45th and 90th birds, all of which were brought to 
grass by extra long second-barrel work. Each time it occurred 
Guthrie said: "I had hopes." 
The time the match was shot in was not phenomenal, but then 
neither man hurried at all. The dogs, loo, were rather slower 
than usual, while Dandy stopped now and then to make a meal 
off the bird's head that he was sent to retrieve. All these things 
taken together, the match took just two hours and two minutes. 
It began at 2:10 and was over at. 4:12. 
How the Traps Fell. 
The fall of the traps was rather peculiar, No. 4 trap only being 
pulled nine times all told, twice for Guthrie and seven times for 
Capt. Money. After the first half of the match, the fall of the traps 
played but little feature in the game, as by that time the sun 
was behind the cloud, an'd the glare from its rays was in the 
shooters' right eyes no longer. This glare made Nos. 4 and 5 
traps the hardest in the first half, but the draw was about 
even. Guthrie had No. 5 trap thirteen times and No. 4 once 
out of the first 50 birds; Capt. Money had No. 5 twelve times and 
No. 4 three times in the same half of the match. The following 
table shows the fall of the traps to each contestant: 
No. 1. No. 2. No. 3. No. 4. No. 5. Total. 
Guthrie ... 19 29 27 2 23 100 
Money 24 27 22 7 20 100 
Luck of the Birds about Even. 
So far as the luck of' the birds ran, it was about equal for both 
shooters. At first Guthrie outlucked Money, but later on Guthrie 
drew some hard ones, while Capt. Money got the best of the draw. 
Guthrie had 28 birds with an incoming tendency, Money having 
20 of the same kind. 
The score tells the rest of the story of this remarkably close and 
interesting race: 
Trap score type— Copyright, by Forest and Stream Publishing Co. 
12 52451225815182211225428 
T^W^-T^\"!'<-?->4-+— >^T\T-» • 
Capt. Money.., ,2 *1111111 2 12322212222 2 22 1—24 
5 52285533 2 54213142115 5231 
2 2 2 2 2 2 2 1 1 2 1 1 2 1 1 2 2 2 1 2 2 2 2 2 2— 2o 
31115232142522285124384 5 1 
— ? T \ T T T T t ^ ^ -v* ? -» 
22*1 2 1 1221 1 22 2 1 2 112111* 22 23 
1 48521235881828. 1 381531 '112 
-*n.-><-*-4-*/-»vf-»i/^T ^-^-^/t^-f 
J 2 1 3 2 2 2 T 1 2 2 2 2 2 2 1 2 1 1 1 1 2 1 2-25 - 97 
3 5 5 2 5 8 13 15 2 2 2 13 5 15 8 5 5 2 2 2 3 
C. S Guthrie. . . .2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 1 * 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 -24 
5258151188831258184282528 
2 1 2 2 2 2 2 2' 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 0 1 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2—24 
25255215 3 1381318523223812 
22 2 222 0 *222 2 2 222222222 2 2 2—23 
1252345 1225215252 1228818 2 
2 1 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 1 2 2—25 
96 
Edward Banks. 
Crescent Athletic Club. 
Brooklvn, N. Y., Dec. 3.— The first shoot for the December cup 
was held' on the Crescent Athletic Club's grounds at Bay Ridge 
to-day. Stake won this event with a score of 22. Three men 
finished with 20 and five men had 19 breaks to their credit. 
Following the December cup race was the handicap team match for 
the "Sykes cup, two-men teams, 25 birds per man, handicap, In 
this event Halleck and Lott, with a total handicap of 11, won 
by 4 targets over the second team. Then Hallock and Notman 
beat Stake and Kryn in a team race at 12 pairs per man. The 
score: 
December cup event: 
Stake, 5 OlHllOlllllllOOlHOlOllOOllll 
Geddes, 0 H11111101110111010U1110 
Stephenson 5 111001100101101100111111001111 
Lo tt 6 '. . : 0011111110011110110111010001110 
Remsen 0 1111111111101001111110010 
Neman 5 011111101110011010101100101110 
white s omiiooiiooiooiooiooiiomoniio 
Haiiock io ' lriiooioooiooioimoiiiioooiiiooioo 
L Rhett 13 10101011010101010001001001001001111110 
Kryn 5 011011100001101010101110100011 
A Rhett 13 00110101001010010001001001000001000001 
—22 
—20 
—20 
—20 
—19 
—19 
—19 
-19 
—19 
—16 
—12 
H ■ >pkin s ; 15 '. '. ■ 1110001001001003000100000000001010001003—12 
Team race for Sykes trophy: „. 
Halleck, 7 ^llllllOOlllOlOlllHnilOlOllOllO -24 
;-47 
—24 
—19-43 
—21 
-21-42 
Lott. 4 H1110111110110110111010H111 
Remsen, 0 '.....,1111111111111111111111110 
Krvn, 4 UlllllHllllllOlQOlOOlOOOvlO 
Geddes, 0 1110111110111011101111111 
Stake 1 lllllllllUOmiOlllOlOlOl 
X Rhett 8.. , 011100111100110101101101110101000-19 
L Rhett' 7 ,,, 01110101001010011101110100010010 —16-35 
White 6 . " 0111101010110101010101100111010 -18 
Notman, 4 011010011001010101010100U1U 
Team match, 12 pairs per man: ♦ Jt'^ju n 
Halleck .. .10 01 11 00 01 00 10 10 10 10 10 01-11 
Notman 01 30 10 01 00 10 01 00 10 10 01 J<h- 9- 20 
Kryn 11 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 00 10 00 10-U 
Stake 00 10 00 10 00 00 01 00 00 00 10 00- 
-16—34 
4—15 
New Utrecht Gun Club. 
_ Woodlawn, L. I., Dec. 3.— A cloudy sky and the wind blow- 
ing straight m the faces of the shooters prevented good scores 
at the club shoot of the New Utrecht Gun Club to-day. Live birds 
next Saturday; Dec. 10. Scores: 
No. 1, club shoot: 
D Deacon 0010010110111111101010100—14 
E G Frost 0101100100111010111100001—13 
No. 2, Brush gun shoot: ■ 
J Gaughen 0000110111010001110111101—14 
D Deacon 0101111110101010000010010—12 
E G Frost ..0110100100000001001111100—10 
P J 5 < l eo , r ?? 1110000010111010000010010—10 
No. 3, 10 birds: Gaughen 8, George 8, Deacon 4, Frost 4, 
No. 4, 10 birds: Gaughen 5, Deacon 8, George 8, Frost 4 
No. 5, match, 25 birds: Gaughen 21, Deacon 16. 
■ E. G. Frost, Sec'y. 
IN NEW JERSEY. 
Sweepstakes: 
Events: • 12 3 Events: 
Targets: 25 25 25 Targets : 
Remsen - ,. 21 18 20 Notman . . , 
Geddes 18 18 17 A Rhett ... 
Halleck 9 17.. Hopkins , 
Stephenson 14 12 13 
12 3 
25 25 25 
.. 12 14 
.. 11 
Brooklyn Gun Club. 
Brooklyn, N. Y., Dec. 3. — Eight shooters were present to-day at 
the shoot of the Brooklyn Gun Club. Eleven events were shot, of 
which Nos. 7 and 11 were at 5 singles and 5 pajrs, the balance 
at single targets. The scores: 
Events: 1 2 3 4 &6 7 8 9 10 11 
Targets : 10 10 20 10 10 15 15 10 15 10 15 
Harrison 8 16 10 7 13 12 9 12 9 .. 
Milliken 7 6 12 6 7 10 6 .. 
Lane • 6 .. 14 .... 7 .. 7 10 8 8 
David 6 .. 13 .. 6 9 .. 6 13 8 10 
Martin ... 10 9 17 3 
Wright 7 .. 7 6 .. 10 7 10 7 8 
Wills 8 .. 6 .. .. 12 
Amend 9 7 12 11 7 12 . . 0. 
Central New Jersey Trap-Shooters' League. 
Dec. 1.— The season of the Central New Jersey Trap-Shooters' 
League was wound up to-day by a live-bird shoot, held at New 
Brunswick, on the grounds of the Reservoir Gun Club, of that 
town. Eleven shooters in all took part in the events, among 
them being T. H. Keller, of the Peters Cartridge and King 
Powder companies. The day was one of the few fine ones of the 
past week or so, and the birds were a good lot of flyers. 
Four events were decided, Nos. 1 and 3 being at 5 birds, en- 
trance $3, birds included; No. 2 was 7 birds, $5, birds included; 
No. 4, $2 miss-and-out. Scores: 
T „ „' No. 1. No. 2. No. 3. No. 4. 
J Belloff 02122—4 28. .1112212— 7 12201—4 2222 
T H Keller .-..02122—4 30. .2212212— 7 22110—4 220 
W Terry 21022—4 30. .0222212— 6 12122—5 220 
E M Blodgett 10121—4 30. .1111200— 5 12111—5 0 
L Hildebrandt 20210—3 26. .2002000— 2 02100—2 20 
A Woodruff 2220*— 3 30. .0112222— 6 11121—5 2112 
Pony 00222—3 26—1222021—6 00111—3 2220 
K K Kelly 02001—2 27. .2220111— 6 01122—4 0 
F C Bissett 20002—2 28. .1202120— 5 11212—5 0 
Capt Bunk 30. .2222222— 7 22222—5 . . 
Scott Terry 28. .1111111— 7 
Boiling Springs Gun Club. 
Dec. 3.— The regular monthly shoot of the Boiling Springs Gun 
Club was well attended, seventeen shooters putting in an appear 
ance at the club's grounds, Rutherford, N. J., this afternoon. The 
guest of honor was Col. Courtney, the able exponent of the shoot- 
ing qualities of a Remington gun. The light was bad and the 
shooting difficult, but the Colonel landed high man for the 50 
targets shot at in the club race, breaking 45 out of his 50, closely 
followed by C. C. Beveridge, Dr. De Wolfe and Banks with 44 
each. De Wolfe and Frank with 6 and 10 misses as breaks re 
spectively, scored highest possibles. Scores in the club event were 
as follows: 
Taylor U0110111010H1H11100111 
1101000001011101111010110—32— 6—38 
H Money .1111101111111111011111101 
U111001111111100111011110— 40— 4—44 
Dutcher ,0111011011101100111011110 
0101101111111111001011011—35—10—45 
Wise 0111110131111111101111010 
1111111100101011100111001—38—10—48 
James 11111 mOOOllQlQllOOlllOQ 
1111011111101111110111010—36—12—48 
Adams 1001111110110011111111011 
1001111100101110001010111—34—12—46 
Everett 0010111111111101100131111 
1110101101001111111111110—37— 7—44 
Hatfiel d 10110101011013 00001111111 
13 1100111000101000001 1 110—30—10—40 
Banks 11111111001113 03 111111111 
1110103111111011111111131—44— 2—46 
Beveridge 1311111031110101111111111 
1111111111111301311101100—1-1— 4—48 
Huck 0113010111001010001111100 
0111101111001101001111011—31— 5—36 
Paul 1111011001111101011011100 
1101110001011110100111110—33—10—43 
Frank lOlllllOlllimillllOOllO 
1333110111110111111131001—41—10—51 
♦Courtney , 1133111101111111110111111 
1111111101111110011111111 -45 
Harding 0101110000110101001111001 
0000111103111011011011111—30—10—40 
*Thorn 1110011001010110001010010 . 
1010000000110010000110101 —21 
De Wolfe 0101110111111111111111010 
1111111111101111111111111—44— 6-50 
*Guests. 
The i>idell Gun Club. 
Sidell. 111., Dec. 2.— Following scores were made to-day at 
the grounds of the Sidell Gun Club. The boys indulged in 
practice, and some good scores were made. Pigeons were trapped 
in good time, and the rise was 30yds. A stiff wind made some 
good kills necessary to get them. Cadwallader lost an easy one, 
his second; his Winchester stuck the second shot. Mr. Cadwallader 
shot L. & R. powder in Smokeless cases, while Mr. Sconce kept 
pace with Cad by losing two dead out, with King's Smokeless 
and New Victors. Scores: 
Trap score type— Copyright, tSBB, by threst and Stream Publixhina On. 
Cadwallader 2 02112 2 12 2 1112 0—18 1 2—2 
Sconce , * 1 2 * 1 2 2 2 1 2 2 1 2 2 2-18 2 0—1 
<-NVN/ , <-Si'\t'<-T-> f V 1 -» 
Mitchell 0 2 0 0 0 1 1 2 1 1 2 0 1 * 1- 9 * -0 
Sweepstakes: 
No. 1. No. 2. 
Cadwallader 11110001111011011101-14 1011111011-8 
Sconce ...11111311111111131110—19 0111111111—9 
Mitchell ' 11111110101101111101—16 1111111100—8 
Gray 11111111111100113011—17 
Parker 00011100111110101111—13 1110101111—8 
Poster 1101110111-8 
Cadwallader 1011111111111111111111111-24 
Sconce . , . , . :;T..,~* ' 1111111111101111111110111-23 
Cadwallader' 11 31 11 11 01 11 10 10 11 11-17 
Sconce 10 11 11 11 11 31 11 11 01 11-18 
Secretary, 
The Grand American Handicap. 
Buffalo N. Y. Dec. 2.— Editor Forest and Stream: Ail the 
discussion ' that has been indulged in about the division of 
moneys in the Grand American Handicap appears to me to be 
altogether superfluous. The critics who would change the divi- 
sion of the moneys have not yet advanced a valid reason for making 
a change. The shoot has always been successful, each year seeing 
an increase in the number of contestants. Under these j circum- 
stances Mr Banks' defense of the Interstate Association s policy 
in the 'past was not needed, although the figures he gave us m 
your last issue were interesting reading. ... . 
Why did not he point out to Mr. Fulford that his plan ol having 
the majority rule the business affairs of the Interstate Association 
would hardly sound as well to him if brought home to his own. 
business? Suppose I was to circulate a petition among the 
sportsmen of this country, in which I had outlined what sort ot 
policy the Remington Arms Company should adopt unless they 
wished to make a failure of their business? What would Mr. Ful- 
ford or his employers say to such petitioners? I can guess; can 
you? 48grs ' 
Hamilton Gun Club. 
Hamilton, Ont, Nov. 30.— At a meeting of the Hamilton Gun 
Club it was decided for our coming tournament, to be held on Jan. 
17 18 19 and 20, 1899, to reduce the boundary from 100yds. 
to'sOy'ds , also to change Rule 19, which reads: "Bird shot on 
around is lost bird," to "birds shot on the ground as no bird ; 
shooter to be ined 50 cents, practically adopting the American 
Shooting Association Rules. H. P. Graham, Sec y. 
