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think that Mr. Pell and himself dif- 
fered very much in this matter. He 
hoped the Council would not consider 
that the}' were debarred hereafter from 
taking up the question of a central 
college ; but, for the present, if they 
accepted Mr. Pell's resolution they 
■would at once pledge themselves to it. 
Sir Nigel Kinhscote expressed his 
approval of the report of the Educa- 
tion Committee. It seemed to him 
that Mr. Pell had spoken very much 
in the lines of the report until he 
came to that one subject— the esta- 
blishment of a normal school. He 
ventured to think tliat Mr. Pell was 
premature about that. He thought 
they should not pledge themselves to 
anything of the kind until they saw 
whit would happen within the next 
few months. He hoped the Council 
would pause before they adopted Mr. 
Pell's motion, and that they would 
adopt the report of the Education 
Committee. 
Mr Mainwaring said that, at the 
meeting of the Education Committee 
last November, he had voted with 
Mr. Pell ; since that time he had been 
permitted to join tlie committee of 
the Bangor College. If they passed a 
resolution of the kind proposed by 
Mr. Pell, or if a central normal school 
were estaol-shed, they would not only 
be taking the money of the State, but 
the Bangor authorities and the au- 
thorities of other institutions would 
be placed in a secondary position. 
Whereas, if they were allowed to start 
their present schemes, the.v would 
soon be able to prove whether they 
carried on their work satisfactorily. 
If it were proved that a normal school 
were desired, such an institution 
might be formed. At the present 
moment, he did not think that one 
was required. 
The President wished to point 
out to Jlr. Pell and to the Council 
what an important matter his motion 
really was as to the establishment of 
a normal school. There were already 
existing in the counties very con.si- 
derable means of training young men 
to become teachers. He did not know 
whether the Council were aware that 
the Science and Art Department of 
South Kensington assisted agricul- 
1 tural science through the medium of 
training colleges for teachers — the 
very point at present under discussion. 
One of the alternative subjects which 
teachers in training colleges might 
take up was the principles of agricul- 
ture, so that means for the training 
of teachers did exist already. He 
did not understand that anybody had 
seconded Mr. Pell's motion, but ho 
should like to say this : local action 
was being taken all over the country, 
and almost every County Council was 
engaged in considering applications 
for assistance. Until they know how 
they would deal with all applications 
from the manj' institutions, particu- 
larly in the North of England, which 
had applied for assistance, aud until 
they knew how much would be allo- 
cated to agriculture, they really did 
not know where they weie. The 
principle upon which the County 
Councils were acting appeared to be 
to help those who helped themselves. 
Mr. Pell's amendment, not being 
seconded, fell to the ground, and the 
report of the Education Committee, 
together with the Special Report of 
November 5, and the Supplementary 
Report submitted on the j)resent oc- 
casion, was received and adopted. 
Dairy. 
Mr. Matnwaring reported the 
election of the Hon. C. T. Parker as 
Chairrpan of the year. A letter had 
been received from Miss Maidment 
accepting the appointment of Dairy 
Demonstrator at Doncaster upon the 
terms proposed by the Council. The 
Committee recommended for accept- 
ance an arrangement with the rail- 
wa}' companies, fur the payment by 
the Society of a fixed sum per pack- 
age for the carriage of poultry to and 
from the Showyard at Doncaster. 
Railway Bates, 
Mr. Frankish said that the pro- 
posals of the Board of Trade, with 
reference to railway- rates, were very 
unsatisfiictor}' to agriculturists. It 
was necessary that traders should be 
in a position to defend tlie agricul- 
tural interest as well as they could. 
He moved, therefore — 
That an additional grant of 100^. 
be made to the Mansion House 
United Association on Railway 
Rates, for the further defence of 
agricultural interests. 
