520 Kidd V. Royal Agricultural Society of England. 
Cross-examined ly Mr. Seymour. 
Q. You adhere to your Eeport that the chemical analysis and microscopical 
examination do not throw any light upon the subject of this inquiry — that is, 
the inquiry into the death of these animals. — A. The chemical analysis. 
Mr. Justice Blackburn (To Mr. Seymour) : You put your question \Arrong. 
Mr. Seymour : I asked " microscopically," too. 
Mr. Justice Blackburn : I know you did, but the Eeport does not say so. 
Mr. Seymour : " I have submitted the cake which yow sent me a short 
time ago both to chemical analysis and to a microscopical examination, and 
enclose the results obtained in the analysis, which, however, does not throw 
any light on the subject of the inquiry." 
Mr. Justice Blackburn : That is the result of the analysis, which does not 
throw light upon it ; and that is what he has said just now. 
Mr. Seymour : The chemical analysis. 
Mr. Justice Blackburn : Your question was, " Do you adhere to your 
Beport that the microscopical and chemical analyses," and so on. 
Mr. Seymour : Do you adhere to this — " At the same time I am bound to 
say that 1 am unable to detect in the cake any poisonous matter ? " — A. That 
is so. 
Q. And you have made altogether five examinations ? — A. Yes. 
Q. And is that the result to which you have come ? Does that contaia 
your opinion as the result of all your examinations? — A. That is so. 
Q. Now, you say there may be injurious seeds, and I think you have 
referred to the drunken darnel. Is not that one of the seeds you mention ? — 
A. That is one of them. 
Q. Naturally or chemically speaking, is not it a narcotic ? — A. It is sup- 
posed to be so ; but we know very little about the true action of it. 
Q. Still, I took it that that was one of the seeds you spoke of that might 
be injurious. Would not the injury depend upon the quantity, upon the per- 
centage of it ? — A. Quite so. 
Q. Can j^ou at all say what percentage you found? — A. No, there was not 
a large quantity. 
Q. Can you give it in fractions ? — A. No, I cannot. 
Q. You cannot say what entity, what hundredth? — A. No, I cannot. 
Mr. Justice Blackburn : I think you say that, though you cannot say 
what, it was not large ? — A. It was not a large quantity. 
Mr. Seymour : And so small that he cannot give even the fractional pro- 
portion to the bulk. (To the witness.) "What other seeds are there which 
you apply the term "injurious" to? Is there any other seed that has any 
narcotic power? — A. There is mustard which has a pungent power. I do not 
really attach much value to the presence of seeds in the cake producing the 
death of the animals. 
Q. Then the quantity you found of any possibly injurious seeds you do not 
attach much weight to ? — A. No, I do not really. , 
Q. Then we will go to what is left. With regard to the other subjects of 
your analysis, I find bran, oat-husks, and barley-husks. If there were brau 
intentionally used in a cake of that kind, you might expect to find a few oat- 
husks or barley-husks in the bran ? — A. You do not usually find oat-husks 
]u bran. 
Q. Well, I suppose not, because the bran is cheaper than the oats, so yoa 
would not find much. But tell me to what extent did you find oat husks?— 
A. I could not mention any definite number. You could count them by the. 
few, by the half-dozen, or the dozen. 
Q. 1 want to know to what extent they were measured or discovered? — 
A. To the extent you find them in dirty linseed. 
