528 Kidd V. Royal Agricultural Society of England. 
Q. You saw the seeds there, but you could not give them their names ? — 
A. Yes, I saw them, but I could not give their names. 
Q. You said husks of wheat and husks of barley. Did you also find one 
or two grains of wheat ? — A. One or two fragments. 
Q. What sort of wheat were they ? — A. It seemed to be like tail wheat. 
Q. Have you got your report there that you made at the time? — A. 
These manuscript notes are those I actually made at the time of the 
observations. 
Q. Did you make a report at the same time to the Society ? — A. Yes. 
Q. Just refresh your memory with that, and just read the first three or four 
lines, and tell me besides those you have mentioned whether you found 
anything else ? — A. I have read the first thi'ee or four lines. 
Q, "Husks of cocoa or palm-nut," — what after that? — A. One or .two 
pieces of mouldy wheat. 
Mr. Justice Blackbukx : See if you have got it in your note ? — A. Yes, I 
have it. 
Q. Read a portion of your notes ? — A. I only just made memoranda, 
" mouldy wheat " as one of the things I found. 
Q. Can you tell us, either from your notes or from your recollection, what 
quantity ? — A. I can form no accurate judgment of the quantity ; there is no 
means of estimating it. 
Q. But you can tell us what quantity of mouldy wheat you actually saw. 
Of course you cannot say how much there is altogether, but what you actually 
saw? — A. I found a grain or two here and there. 
Q. In seeds ? — A. It seemed like fragments of wheat compacted together, 
or agglutinated together, with a little mould round them. 
Mr. Field : Was what you have told us now the result of optical examina- 
tion? — A. Yes. 
Q. Did you then submit the samples to microscopic examination?— 
A. Yes. 
Q. Did you find under the microscope the same things that you could sec 
with the eye. — A. Yes. 
Q. Did you find anything else ? — A. By the microscope I discovered the 
sesame and the bran. 
Mr. Justice Blackburn : Do I understand that you did not see the sesame' 
and bran with the naked eye ? — A. The bran I did, but it was confirmed by 
microscopic examination. 
Q. But you did not see the sesame ? — No ; it was in such a very fine 
state of division that one could not with the naked eye, or even with a pocket 
lens, detect it. 
Mr. Field : Now, tell me from your judgment of the cake what should you 
say it was prepared from? — A. I should say it was prepared from dirty or 
unscreened linseed. 
Q. Anything else besides? — A. Or it might have been that some sweepings 
of warehouses may have been added to it. ^ 
Q, In your judgment was that fit food for cattle? — A. I should say not. 
Q. Have you heard in Court to-day the symptoms under which the cattle 
of Mr. Wells laboured after eating the cake ? — A. I have. 
Mr. Seymour : He is not an expert, and I object to this. 
The Witness : I prefer to answer the question direct, and I was going to 
add that I have no special knowledge of the symptoms. 
Cross-examined hy Mr. Seymour. 
Q. Will you read the memorandum from your note with regard to the 
wheat ? — A. Do you moan with regard to the mouldy wheat ? 
