534 Kidd V. Royal Agricultural Society of England. 
Mr. Justice Blackburn : Does he say at the bottom that it is identically 
the same as the other or not ? Because if he winds up by saying that, that is 
enough. 
Mr. Field : Tlie microscopic examination is the important part. 
Mr. Justice Blackbuex : It comes then to this result, that he says all 
these samples are the same. 
Mr. Mellok : Was there anything that you omitted to mention in the 
Report? — A. I omitted to mention that I had observed, a day or two before 
I wrote the report, that the uncrushed seeds that I mentioned are lying in all 
positions ; instead of lying in a uniformly parallel state as they generally do in 
bond fide linseed cakes, they were at all angles and positions. 
Mr. Justice Blackburn : When was this that j'ou noticed this for the first 
time, in August or before? — A. I did not specially notice it before ; I did not 
notice that it had any special bearing on the question. 
Q. When did you see or observe the fact that you are mentioning that the 
seeds were lying in this way ; when had you first noticed that ? — A. I noticed 
it, as far as the note is concerned, a day or two before I wrote that. 
Q. Describe what it was that you did notice again. — A. The uncrushed 
seeds lay in all positions, at all angles with each other, instead of the flat 
pieces of the seeds being parallel with each other, as they are from the effect 
of pressiu-e. 
Q. What is your inference from that ? — A. That the seeds have been put 
into the cake uncrushed, and that the pressure used in making the cake 
used to make the cake, and not to express the oil from the cake — to make it 
cohere ; in other words, simply that it is a made-up cake. 
Mr. Mellor : What sort of a cake was this — a hard cake or a tender cake? 
— A. A tender cake, easily broken. 
Mr. Seymour : Have you got a bit of it here ? — A. I have got the whole 
four samples, what I had left. 
Cross-examined hrj Mr. Seymour. 
Q. Am I to understand from you that your suggestion is that this cake 
which went in the quantities that we have heard to Booth Ferry and Market 
Weighton, and so on, was cake manufactured as cake, and not cake produced 
in the expressing of linseed oil? — A. That is my inference. 
Q. That is what you want us to infer. — A. Yes. 
Q. Have you entered into a calculation of the profit that would leave to 
Mr. Kidd ; have 3'ou at all calculated what profit it would be to do that sort 
of business ? — A. I have made no calculation whatever of that sort. 
Q. Now, allow me to ask you this ; you say that there was a greater quan- 
tity of ash than the quantity of ash that you would expect in a good linseed 
cake. 
Mr. Justice Blackburn : A gi-eater quantity in which ? 
Mr. Seymour : A greater quantity in the bulk and sample which he has 
just reported upon, a greater quantity than there ought to be. ■> 
Mr. Justice 13lackburn : I did not catch that, but no doubt you are right^ 
Mr. Seymour : He .saj-s so in the report. (To the Witness.) The quantity 
that you gave was 8-86. Do you mean to tell me that perfectly i)urc cake— 
I put to you a perfectly pure linseed cake— does not give j'ou quite as much 
ash ? — A. I never found it do so. 
Q. Does it not give as high as 8 ? — A. I have never found it higher than 
6. I am told that sometimes it is as high as 7, but I have never found it 
higher than 6 myself. 
Q. Professor Voelcker to-day has given us T'.'SS in a specimen of pure lia- 
seed cake. — A. I only speak from my own experience. 
