57s Kidd V. Royal Agricultural Society of England. 
Mr. Justice Blackblen : There is something in your ques 
tioon which shows that either you or I must have mistaken thi 
evidence. I have understood that the oil was not pressed out a 
all till after they had been crushed ? 
Mr. Field : No ; " bruised" is the word I used. 
The VVlTNES.S : "Grind" is the word. 
]\lr. Field: Do not you grind or bruise it? — A. No; "grind 
is the word — cut it up. 
Mr. Justice BLACKBURN : Are you speaking of what you d( 
between the rollers ? — A. Under the stones. 
Mr. Justice Blackburn : Aye, aye ; but the question am 
answer must be understood in order to get at the truth. Nom 
let us hear your question, Mr. Field. 
Mr. Field : I ask you this : when you are making pun 
linseed-cake do you merely bruise the seed ? — A. Yes ; as I sai 
before, we call it " cracking" it. 
Q. And then the stones grind it to a fine powder? — A. Yes 
not to too fine a powder. 
Q. Now, I will ask you this: when the "genuine" is mad 
or the mixed cake, is not the pressure in the rolls less than i 
is when you are going to make a pure cake ? — A. No. 
Q. Do not you purposely leave larger seeds and more oil i 
the seeds when you are going to make mixed cake than whe 
you are going to make pure cake ? — A. No ; it would annihila 
my purpose if I did. 
Q. That depends upcm what your purpose is : if it is to sel 
oil, I agree ; but if it is to sell cake, or if it is to sell bran fo 
linseed, I do not agree ? — A. If I wanted to disguise Avhat I p 
into the cakes, I could grind it for half an hour to three-quarte 
— the more I grind it the less it would show. 
Mr. Justice Blackburn : Now just let me see if I have di 
tinctly understood — I will finish what I have written down, an 
then I will ask you if I have understood you rightly. Corre. 
me if am wrong ; but what I have understood you to say is, th" 
there is no difference in the pressure of the rollers whether th 
cracked seed is intended to be used for pure cake or mixed ? — 
A. None at all— none whatever. 
Mr. Field : Is there not a difference in the grinding stones — 
is there not less grinding and crushing of the seed in the stones 
when you are making mixed cake than there is when it is for 
pure cake? — A. No ; not perhaps above a minute or two. 
Q. Well, then, there is a diflerence? — A. Well, I do not like 
my ])ure cakes ground much at all. I leave them as long as I 
can get the oil out, but I do not want to have them ground 
at all. 
Q. There is a difference, liowever. In tlie extent to which the 
