Kidd V. Royal Acp icultural Society of England. 587 
Q. When was the last time you made ordinary cake — were you making 
any at that time ? — A. I cannot tell you. We had made some a week or 
two before. 
Q. Do you make the ordinary cake at the same time that you make 
best cake ? — A. Sometimes we make one sort in one mill and the other in 
i the other mill. 
i Q. How many mills have you ? — A. Well, we have like two. 
j Q. Two mills? — A. Well, there is one here and an engine here, and the 
! other is on the other side of the wall (explaining). 
Q. All in the same room ? — A. Ko. 
Q. There is the engine-house between ? — A. There is the engine-house 
between, and there is a wall runs right away along from end to end. "i'liey 
{ cannot get mixed. One mill's stufl' cannot get mixed with the other's. 
Q. Were you making ordinary and common at the same time that you 
^vere making best ? — A. I cannot say — not at that time. 
Q. Who has the management of the ordinary mill? — A. Sometimes we 
make it in one place and sometimes in the other. 
Mr. Justice Blackburn : You have got all the books here, and you can in 
a moment ascertain whether or not that is so. Just turn to the books and 
see whether you made any of the ordinary cake in January or not. There 
must be a book that will tell tliat ? 
After some confusion, caused by the W^itness referring to the year 1871 
instead of 1872 : — 
Mr. Field : What quantity of " Buflum " were you making on the 12th 
February '? — A. I do not know a phrase like that. 
Q. You never heard of it ? — A. Well, I have heard of it, it is vulgar speak- 
I ing when they call it " Buffum." 
I [A long examination here ensued as to the dates of manufacture of the dif- 
I ferent descriptions of cakes, and on Mr. Kidd being recalled and referring to 
his books, it appeared that on the 5th of February all three descriptions were 
made, that no more Plain Triangle was made until the 12th of Februaiy, 
that Triangle Best was made on the 6th, 7th, and 8th February, then not until 
the morning of the 13th February.] 
Q. Are the two first men here ; are they working in order ; or how do you 
take their time? Middleton and Stevenson are, I think, working all day 
long? — A. Yes. 
Q. And that book shows what they make ? — A. Yes. 
Q. When you made ordinary cake on the 12th, was that made from the 
same linseed as the best was made of? — A. Some of the same linseed. 
Q. Very pure ? — A. Fine seed. 
Q. What did you mix with the ordinary on the 12th to make it? — A. Lin- 
seed, bran, and nut-cake. 
Q. That was very fine linseed ? — A. Yes. 
Q. Was any screenings or siftings put into that? — A. Xo, I do not 
remember that there was. 
Q. I want to know ; Mr. Kidd told us ? — A. We put a portion in if we have 
any, but if we have not any we cannot put it in. 
Q. That I am well aware of. But Mr. Kidd told us if the linseed was very 
good, the siftings were put in to bring it down to what is called a good cake ? — 
A. It is, if we have any in stock. 
Q. You had been making a good deal of pure just before? — A. 1 won't 
swear whether we had or not. 
Q. You had been making all the week before. You had l)eeu makin<? 
hardly anything but pure. Just look at your book and say whether that is 
not so? Had you not been making for the whole week before pretty nearly 
nothing but pure (handing the book to the witness)? — A. Well, then, of 
course there would be some put in. 
