Kidd V. Ruyal Ayricultural Society of Euylaiid. 045 
L3th of Februcaiy, tlm day tliey were sent up by the train to Market Weigliton 
it is not necessary to trouble you at any length with the correspondence), 
rnd five tons are received and sent to Sancton ; and that is the matter that 
ny friend was so anxious to jrat that letter in about, because he hopes by 
]md by to twit nie; well, I won't say twit me, but rely upon when he is 
jiddressing you by and by. That was why that matter was pointed out by 
Mr. Seymour to Mr. Wells with reference to the other five tons that went to 
>ancton Farm. It is clear that that five tons was not the same sjjecific thing 
aade as this was, but it was not as if it had been five tons in existence, and 
hat tlie two tons were part of it ; because you will find the two tons were not 
iianufiictured till the 13th of February. The five tons go to Sancton, and I 
'will deal with it by and by, when I am touching upon the elements of food 
it Booth Ferry and Airmyn Pastures; because it will come in more con- 
leniently then. Then the five tons having gone to Sancton, Mr. Wells is 
ikvithout cake on the 12th of February, and his jMsition has been this — that, 
with regard to Booth Ferry Farm, where his feeding beasts are, he has been 
iDut of cake for about seven days, and, with regard to the Airmyn Tasturcs 
[Farm, for about a day or two days. He is anxious to have his supply for- 
Avardcd, and lie goes to see Mr. Ayre for the purpose of getting them forward. 
He i^ays his money before he goes there — 107?. on account on tiie 7th, and 
is paid at the time of the interview on the 12th. 
That brings me to the question of the interview of the 12th, which you 
will have to decide upon as to the credibility which you attach either to 
Mr. Ayre or Mr. Wells. I need not tell gentlemen of your experience that 
umnbers must not be weighed against individuals. The interest, you know, of 
the two brothers will be one and the same; the interest of Mr. Wells you 
will see and take into account; and I think when you come to consider what 
I have before observed with reference to Mr. Ayre's conflict of evidence with 
the other witnesses, you will have no difSculty in coming to the conclusion that 
Mr. Wells's account is accurate, and that Mr. Ayre's account is not to be 
depended upon. One of the Messrs. Ayre says, "I told them there was 
;.sesame and bran." On the contrary Mr. Wells says, " Until the interrogatories 
.were administered in the action I never heard that there was such a thing as 
sesame ;" and no other persons are to be found here who ever heard of the 
introduction of sesame — neither Mr. Hope nor Mr. Glover. Therefore, if 
Messrs. Ayre did tell Mr. Wells that there was sesam^ in the cake upon that 
particular 12th of February, he was the first person, as far as we can judge, 
•they told that to. Mr. Wells you know denies it ; he says there v.'as a 
conversation with reference to the bran in which he adopted a position which 
I think common sense would lead him to — making a remark of this sort, 
"Well, if bran is to be put in, the farmers are able to buy it at a much 
cheaper rate than 101. a ton." It is for j'ou to judge and not me, but that 
appears to me to be a much more natural account of the conversation than the 
one which I have ventured to characterise, which was given by Messrs. Ayre. 
That being so, the two tons in question were put on the rail. Now, of course 
the Society have no means — they cannot go upon Mr. Kidd's premises — of 
checking his manufacture or any statement that may have been made with 
reference to it. All they can do is to ask such questions of Mr. Kidd and 
other persons as may throw light upon it ; and, therefore, it was not until I 
; asked the questions I did yesterday that one could see what their course of 
business is. But I say this, it is established upon the book which was put in 
.yesterday, that the 8tli I think, but I will not be quite sure, was the last day 
.of the manufacture of either " pure," or " genuine," or " best," I forget which, 
;but between the 8th and the ll'th, they were doing nothing but "i)urc," and 
{on the 12th a certain quantity of ordinary cake was made. I beg your 
i attention to that — the very day bcibre tliese two tons were made — the mill 
