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F. G. Palmer 3 
G. W. McTag&art...i.....„.. 4 
H. L. Quick 5 
J> W. Sparrow 6 
Event No, 8. — War Canoes — ^A. C. A. championship; 
Monday, Aug. 14. 
Ah-Yan-Dora-Wah, Bohemian A. A. A., 1 
Britannia, Britannia Club ,,t,.,,ir.i,n. 2' 
, Dorval Jtinior .rrir.. 3 
Hi Yah, Toronto C. C....,, , .i,,...,i..-si-riTi 4 
3?ag-A-Bealagh, Ottawa, disqualified S 
Cataraqui. Kingston Y. C 6 
, Brockville Rowing Club..,, 7 
Bohemian A. A. A. crew: Capt., Frank Black; Fredk. 
Timleck, Wm. Daniels, J. Monahan, Wm. Timleck, 
Frank Nichol, A. Doran, J. Hilliard, N. Abbott, G. Guil- 
board, A. Champagne, Q. Wadham, F. Robinson, H. 
Winifred. 
Event No. 9. — Open Canoe Sailing — Saturday, Aug. 
12; start, 3:46. Wind W., fresh, with sea. 
Elapsed, 
Mab ir 0 23 46 
Triumph . 0 27 53 
Isis 0 31 51 
Event No. 10, — Combined Race — Open canoes; Sat- 
urday,. Aug. 12; start, 4:05. Wind fresh, W., with sea. 
Elapsed. 
Mab II 0 30 18 
Isis 0 35 12 
Event No, 11. — Atlantic Division Cup — Wednesday, 
Aug. 16; start, 3:38. Wndmoderatej S.W. 
Aziz ......4 50 45 
Hoonyali 4 62 30 
Pioneer 4 54 00 
Torment 4 59 40 
Question ', ... 5 02 55 
Poggy Dew 5 05 35 
Event No. 12. — Central Division Cup — No entries. 
Event No. 13. — Western Division Cup — Wednesday, 
Aug. 16; start, 3:53. 
Finish. Elapsed. 
Norma 0 04 17 0 24 00 
. W. M. Clark.,. = Withdrew. 
Event No. 14. — ^Western Division, Orillia Cup — No 
entries. 
Event No. 15. — Gardner Cup, Paddling, Western Di- 
vision — Saturday, Aug. 12. 
Jack, F. B. Huntington — 
— , W. M. Clark — 
Event No. 16. — Monday, Aug. 14. 
Ah-Yan-Dora-Wah, Bohemian A. A. A,.-.,. 1 
Britannia, Britannia Club , 2 
Hi Yah, Toronto 3 
Fag-A-Bealagh, Ottawa C. C 4 
, Brockville Rowing Club 5 
— , Dorval Junior , 6 
Cataraqui, Kingston Y. C 7 
Event No. 17.— Trophy, Paddling— Tuesday, Aug. 15; 
•start, 4:42. 
, J. Smith 1 
Ladv Rubv, W. T. Lawless 2 
Minawas, E. B. NelHs ,.. , 3 
, J. M. Mowat 4 
Alligator, Chas. Eastniond fi 
■ -, E. McNichol.. , 6 
Red Dragon, M. D. Wilt , 7 
. Event No. 18. — Wednesday, Aug. x6; start, 12. 
E Smith , 1 
E B Nellis 2 
E. McNichol 3 
Event No. 19. — Tuesday, Aug, 15, 
Frank Taylor and J. Smith 1 
C. Cooch and R. Craig.... 2 
T. M. Mowat and A. D. Cotter 3 
E. McNichol and H. Blatchlej' 4 
Event No. 20. — No starters. 
Event No. 21. — ^Wednesday, Aug. 16; start, 2. 
J, Smith 1 
Frank Taylor..........;..,,. 2 
Ed Richards ; 3 
Event No. 22. — Tuesday, Aug. 15. 
R. H. Parmenter , 1 
Herbert Blatchley 2 
Event No. 23. — Monday, Aug. 14, 
Britannia — Percival, Lynch, McNeil, Stott..,,. 1 
Toronto — Begg, Blatchley, Gay. Richards,. 2 
Ottawa — Clayton, Patterson, Stewart, Woolsey 3 
Kingston — Mowat, Cotter, Britton, Bayley 4 
Event No. 24. — ^Tuesday, Aug. 15. 
Toronto— McNichol and Begg 1 
Kingston — Britton and Parmenter....... 2 
Event No. 25. — Tuesday, Aug. 15. 
In event 25 H. L. Quick and M. D. Wilt were the winners. 
Event No. 26. — Tuesday, Aug. 15. 
W. T. Lawless.................... 1 
L, Fromier ; , /. 2 
Event No. 27. — Hurry-scurry-^Wednesday, Aug. 16. 
R. H. Britton i 
R. H. Parmenter ' " 2 
E. McNichol s 
Event No. 28. — No starters. 
Event No. 29. — No starters. 
Event No. 30. — ^Tuesday, Aug. 15. 
W. T. Lawless....... 1 
Chas. Eastniond.............................. . 2 
Event No. 31. — Extra Race, Gananoque Banner — Mon- 
day, Aug. 14; start, 11:37; course, four and one-half 
miles. Wind N.W., fresh. 
1st Round. 2d Round. Finish. Elapsed 
Mab 11 49 15 12 02 43 12 16 40 0 39 40 
Aziz 11 50 25 12 05 05 12 19 09 0 42 09 
Wasp 11 51 32 12 05 40 12 19 45 0 42 45 
Foggy Dew ........11 51 05 12 06 08 12 20 05 0 43 05 
Ellen L, ........11 62 35 12 08 10 12 21 48 0 44 48 
Pioneer 11 52 10 12 07 00 12 21 54 0 44 54 
Hoonvali 11 62 40 12 08 11 12 22 30 0 45 30 
Ouestiop 11 53 50 12 08 50 12 23 50 0 46 50 
Toreador 11 52 52 Withdrew. 
Tail-End Race.— Wednesday, Aug. 16. 
R. H. Parmenter 1 
E. McNichol... 2 
G. W. McTaggart..-. 3 
R. W. Pierce ] 4 
Mr. C. F. Wolters, Rochester Y. C., acted as clerk of 
the course and fulfilled his duties most acceptably. Mr. 
W. G. MacKendrick served as starter of the paddling 
races and Messrs. R. J. Wilkin, J. N. MacKendrick. R. 
Easton Burns, H. C. Morse and W. J, English as judges 
at the finish and turns. 
Mr. E. A Burns was appointed to talce the place of Mr. 
Ely, the absent member of the regatta committee. The 
prizes were all bunting flags instead of the bronze medal- 
lion used in recent years. 
clubs in whose names they challenged, and the English 
amateur sportsmen and people generally, than did the 
owner of Valkyrie? Sextant. 
Fixtares. 
AUGUST, 
24. Plymouth, open, Plymouth, Mass, 
25. Kingston, open, Duxbury Bay. 
26. Royal Nova Scotia, club, Halifax, N. S. 
26. Jamaica Bay, dory class, Jamaica Bay. 
26. Huntington, annual, open, Huntington Bay, 
26. Manhasset, special, Port Washington, Long Island Sound. 
26. Beverly, open. Monument Beach, Buzzard's Bay. 
26. Corinthian, Marblehead, 6th cham., Marblehcad, Mass. Bay. 
26. Duxbury,, open, Duxbury Bay. 
26. Burgess, club, Marblehead, Massachusetts Bay. 
26. Quincy, club, Quincy, Boston Harbor. 
26. Seawanhaka Cor., Center memorial, Oyster Bay, L. I. Sound. 
26. Winthrop, club, Winthrop, Boston Harbor. 
26. Wollaston, handicap, Wollaston, Mast. 
26. Quannapowitt, club. 
26. Wood's Holl, sprit & cat classes, Wood's Holl, Hadley Harbor. 
26. Norwalk, club, Norwalk, Long Island Sound. 
26. Savin Hill, club handicap. Savin Hill, Boston Harbor. 
26. Atlantic, Ballantine cup, Sea Gate, New York Harbor. 
27. Williamsburgh, ladies' race. Bowery Bay, Lond Island Sound. 
27. Penataquit Cor., knockabouts, Bayshore, Great South Bay. 
28. Cape Cod, open, Provincetown, Cape Cod Bay. 
29. Wellfleet, open, Wellfleet Harbor. 
SEPTEMBEK. 
New York, trial races, America Cup, off Sandy Hook. 
2. Larchmont, special races, Larchmont, Long Island Sound. 
2. Jamaica Bay, dory class, Jamaica Bay. 
2. Beverly, open, Monument Beach, Buzzard's Bay. 
2-4. Corinthifin, cruise, Marblehead, 
2. Philadelphia, cup, Philadelphia, Delaware Eit'er, 
2. Wood's Holl, club. 
2-4. Wollaston, cruise, Wollaston. 
2. Indian Harbor, special, Greenwich, Long Island Sound. 
2- 4. East (iloucester, cruise to Hull. 
2. Royal Nova Scotia, one-design class, Halifax, N^ S. 
3. Penataquit, fall club regatta, Bayshore, Great South Bay. 
4. Larchmont, fall regatta, Larchmont, Long Island Sound. 
4. Atlantic, Adams cups. Sea Gate, New York Harbor. 
4. Beverly, open. Monument Beacli, Buzzard's Bay. 
4. Bunker Hill, annual, Bos4on Harbor. 
4. Lynn, annual, open, Nahant, Massachusetts Bay. 
4. Newport, club, Newport, Narragansett Bay. 
4. Wood's Holl, sprit & cat classes, Wood's HoU, Hadley Harbor. 
4. Burgess, club, Marblehead, Massachusetts Bay. 
4. Sachem's Head, annual, open. Sachem's Head, L. I. .Sound. 
4. Pavonia, special club, Communipaw, New York Bay. 
4. Royal Nova Scotia, Prince of Wales cup, Halifax, N, S. 
6. ?Jorwalk, open, Norwalk, Long Island Sound. 
7 to 11. Interlake Y. R. A., meet, Put-in-Bay, Lake Erie. 
9i Royal Nova Scotia, open handicap, Halifax, N. S. 
9.. Atlantic, Gould cups. Sea Gate, New York Bay, 
9. Seawanhaka Cor., fall race, Oyster Bay, Long Island Sound, 
9. Larchmont, special, Larchmont, Long Island Sound. 
9. Hull, Mass., open, Hull. Boston Harbor. 
9. Winthrop, cruise to Hull. Winilirop, Boston Harbor. 
9. Wollaston, handicap, Wollaston. Mass. 
9-10. Y. R. A. of Massachusetts, rendezvous and sail, HulL 
9. Wood's Holl, club. Wood's Holl, Quissett. 
9. Burgess, 3d cham., Marblehead, Massachusetts Bay. 
10. Penataquit Cor., knockabouts. Bayshore, Great South Bay. 
14. Newport, ladies' cruise, Newport. Narragansett Bay. 
16. American, fall regatta, Milton Point, Long Island Sound. 
16. Philadelphia, cup, Philadelphia, Delaware River. 
16. Corinthian, Phila., knockabout, Essington, Delaware River. 
23. Corinthian, Phila., knockabout, Essington, Delaware River. 
23. Riverside, fall regatta. Riverside, Long Island Soimd. 
24. Williamsburgh, annual fall regatta. Bowery Bay, L. I. Sound. 
27. Taunton, ladies' day, Taunton, Mass. 
30. Corinthian, knockabout, Essington, Delaware River. 
OCTOBER. 
3- 5-7. New York, America Cnp matches, Sandy Hook. 
The Seawanhaka International 
Challenge Cup. 
Editor' Forest and Stream: 
The editorial article of Aug. 12, concerning the outcome 
of the late Seawanhaka cup races, discusses the im- 
portant question of propriety in the conduct of yacht races 
by amateitrs. Will you allow a few words in advocacy 
of a different view of this matter? 
There is, or ought to be, a marked difference in the 
spirit governing contests in sports between professionals 
and those between amateurs. The article mentioned seems 
to ignore this difference. Undoubtedly strict and rigid 
rules are necessary for the practical management of yacht 
racing which may not be evaded by judges, referees or 
other judicial officers. But there can also be no doubt of 
the right of any contestant to waive any rule in his favor. 
The point is made that the skipper of the winning yacht 
was acting in a representative capacity and had no 
authority to abairdon the race on account of an accident 
to the competing yacht. This is specious ; but it is not 
all there is to be said on this point. The Royal St. 
Lawrence and the Seawanhaka yacht clubs had the right 
to waive the rule; and in matters of emergency arising 
during the races had to act, if at all, through their repre- 
sentatives present. Some one must be presumed to repre- 
sent the clubs. If the race committee be deemed a 
judicial body only, then in the absence of other executive 
representatives the skippers of the yachts must act in that 
capacity, and have the right to do in emergencies what 
their club or executive committee could do if present. 
It is not to be presum_ed that the St. Lawrence or the 
Seawanhaka Club wishes to win of retain the international 
trophy except by a race upon the merits of the competing 
yachts. In these international races these clubs may be 
deemed to be in large measure the reprsentatives of the 
Canadian and the American people. 
Th view "that it would be a very pretty piece of 
sentiment but very bad sport * * * had he [the 
skipper of Glencairn] given up" is inconsistent with the 
high standards in amateur sport. The difference between 
sport on a high plane and business is practically this 
matter of sentiment. 
It would be less embarrassing to discuss the present 
case had the Yankee yacht won the cup on a sail-over. 
Criticism from losers is not always in good taste nor 
always free from prejudice; but the keeping of the 
methods of professionalism out of amateur sport is of so 
much consequence that a loser may be permitted to speak 
in moderation. In amateur contests there should be the 
largest possible latitude and liberality, consistent with 
orderly management, in construing rules and in con- 
sidering the authority of representatives to act for their 
principals, in the interest and in the spirit of sportsman- 
like ideals, rather than the strict construction of the 
letter that is appropriate in business matters. 
If memory is not at fault, Sir Richard Sutton refused 
to take a race in the America Cup series of 1885 by 
sailing over the course alone. It is doubtful whether 
Lieut. Henn would have done so. Is there any question 
that both of these gentlemen better represented the yacht 
The spirit of our correspondent's letter is thoroughly 
in accord with the principles of -fair sport, even among 
professionals, which the Forest and Stream has always 
advocated, and we can quite understand his position. The 
case in point, however, is one which can only be discussed 
by those perfectly familiar with all the circumstances of 
the Montreal races of .1897-8-9; and the exact relations of 
the two clubs. Those who have tried to judge o£ the dis- 
putes of each year on the sole evidence of the report.^, in 
the New York daily papers have blundered from first to 
last. 
The high standard of sport for its own sake, as set forth 
by Sextant, is unfortunately seldom found; but it did 
mark the first match between the Seawanhaka Corinthian 
Y. C. and the Royal St, Lawrence Y. C. at Oyster Bay in 
1896, when Glencairn I. won the cup from El Hein'e. 
The amiable relations continued all through the follow- 
ing winter, when all details for the return match on Lake 
St. Louis were satisfactorily arranged by mutual agree- 
ment, and it was confident!}'- expected by all concerned 
that the races would pass off with the same good feeling 
on both sides. 
The first break came on the evening preceding the ftl'st 
race between Momo and Glencairn II., and was causerl 
by the attempt of the Seawanhaka race committee to in- 
troduce a new condition, not incorporated in the rules 
and contrary to the established precedent of the two 
previous years, allowing more than one man to sign the 
agreement as helmsman. It was perfectly well known 
at the time that this was due to the fact that the two heavy 
men selected by Mr. Crane for his crew were too heavy 
to handle the headsails, and Mr. Crane desired to give up 
the helm to one of them at times while he worked 
forward. After a session of four hours by the two com- 
mittees, the demand of the Seawanhaka "committee was 
rejected by the other on the grounds that it was not called 
for by the rules, and as distinctly contrary to established 
precedent in the two previous races, in which the owners 
personally had signed the agreements and each steered 
his own boat. 
This decision was accepted with very bad grace by the 
Seawanhaka committee, and it was in retaliation that a 
few days later, after Momo had proved to be lacking in 
power, Mr. Crane gave up his place to a stranger, Mr. 
Dresser, one of the race committee, a very much heavier 
man. This change was made as deliberately and dis- 
courteously as possible, no notice being given of a change 
of crew and no request for the sanction of such a change 
being made. The matter was perfectly understood by both 
parties at the time. Mr. Dresser did not replace Mr. 
Crane because he was a better sailor or more familiar with 
the boat — quite the reverse ; but solely because he amounted 
to soriie 6olbs. more of unmeasured ballast to Avindwarot. 
The right to make such a change of crew was not given by 
the rules and was at least an open question, while by all 
rules of courtesy and fair sport some notice of the change 
should have been given to the other party. The hostile 
and discourteous spirit in which the change was made, 
was fully apparent to all who attended the races. 
The original quarrel was aggravated by the new dis- 
pute over the construction of Dominion last year and 
the offensive orders sent to Mr. Crane by the race com- 
mittee in the famous Dresser-Kerr telegram, which he 
faithfully obeyed. 
For the past two years there has been hardly a pretense 
of sentiment between the two clubs, and it has been 
simply a matter of the exact, literal and rigid interpreta- 
tion and application of the racing rules and special cup 
conditions. In the course of the continued disputes in 
connection with these races, the Forest and Stream has 
taken the same position as Sextant in favor of sport on the 
highest possible plane, free from trivial technicalities, and 
m so doing it has encountered only hostile criticism from 
those most clostly interested in bringing the cup back to 
Oyster Bay. 
Without wishing to assume too much, it aopears to us 
that Sextant has failed to distinguish between what 
should be and what really is in current yachting usage. 
It is a question whether, in important international 
matches, if not in all racing, the race committee or 
other executive body should not be endowed with more 
ample powers, enabling it to deal at discretion with special 
emergencies ; but there is, we believe, no question that, as 
we stated in the article which aroused Sextant's criticism, 
such committee is not now authorized to go outside the 
letter of the rule, and in this case, after the course was 
virtually agreed to by Mr. Post, the preparatory gun 
fired, the committee was powerless, the race had to stand 
and only the action of the club could annul it. 
As concerns the helmsmen of the respective yachts, the 
matter is perfectly plain; they have no discretion in de- 
parting from the rules. It has been our contention for 
the past three years that one man in each yacht should 
sign the agreement as owner, owner's representative or 
master, regardless of who may steer the yacht, being 
responsible for the observance of the rules and fully 
recognized as in command. ' This arrangement has not 
been carried out, as it would be contrary to the contention 
that any number of men may sign as helmsmen, the 
original cause of the dispute. If we understand the most 
recent agreement between the two clubs, no one man is 
officially recognized as captain of the yacht. 
So far from being a specious one, the point we mads 
that the skipper has no option but to follow the rules is 
the_ actual fact; and as a matter of practice, it must be 
plain that a man who is charged with the steering and 
rnanagement of a yacht in an important race is in no posi- 
tion to_ judge of the actions or accidents of a distant 
competitor and to withdraw and thus throw away what is 
fairly a. race for his side. The question may be one on 
which it is necessary to hear evidence and to spend hours 
in deliberation, and yet according to Sextant's idea it 
should be decided in a moment by a skipper who is busy at 
the tiller. In the first race between Momo and Glencairn 
I., when the latter broke her tiller before the start and 
fouled the stakeboat, Mr. Crane did not withdraw Momo, 
but continued and took the race on a sail-over, as he 
was fully justified in doing. Had he and the Seawanhaka 
race committee, present at the time, offered after the finish 
to call the race off because of an accident to the other 
boat during the preparatory interval. It would have beets 
