Sept. 2, 1899.], 
FOREST AND STREAM. 
189 
Much wonderment was exhibited among the passengers 
on board a Quebec & Lake St. John Railway train the 
other day, at the exhibition at Lake Edward of nearly 
a dozen brilliant specimens of the brook trout, which had 
been just taken from the lake, and which ran in weight 
fiom 4 to 61bs. each. E. T. D. Chambers. 
QusBee, Aug- 26. 
Bass in Trout Waters. 
_ Charlestown, N. H., Aug. 23— Editor Forest and 
Stream: The correspondence in the last number of 
Forest and Stream has recalled to my mind a question 
on 'which I formerly had very decided opinions, and 
although I had to some extent refrained from asserting 
them, in view of what seemed to be good evidence pre- 
sented by other parties, they are fully confirmed by the 
correspondence referred to. 
The question was and is the desirability and propriety 
of placing black bass in waters naturally the bome of 
trout, and for a long time I vigorously opposed it, but 
finally ceased protesting, from the apparent weight of the 
statements made by Dr. Quackenbos and others that the 
two varieties of fish inhabited difYerent zones of water, 
and that when the bass were in shoal water the trout 
were down in the depths, and vice versa; and also that no 
young trout had been found in the stomachs of the bass. 
Now, last week's letters controvert the latter statement 
entirely, and as the bass are known to hibernate in deep 
water the former one does not hold good all the year 
round. 
My attention is more particularly called to the matter 
by a long letter from Dr. Quackenbos published in the 
Manchester Union a few weeks since, in which he com- 
plains of the poor fishing in Sunapee Lake, and attacks 
the Fish Commissioners vigorously for tbe same, ac- 
cusing them of spoiling the fishing by propagating and 
planting hybrids in the Lake. Commissioner Wentworth 
answered in the same paper last week all the charges 
against the Commission, and I need not interfere in that 
matter; but I wish to call the attention of my friend, the 
Doctor, to the illogical point of his claim, i. e., that the 
introduction of a few thousand "barren hybrids" simply 
raised for a year or two as an experiment, could in any 
way affect the natural reproduction of the thousands of 
trout spawning in the natural way on the "lake beds,'' 
where they are claimed to school "by the acre," or of the 
winninish and salvelinus, which have not been hybridized 
(by far the larger quantity), and have been fertilized in 
the egg, raised in the hatching house, and planted in 
due form. I do not believe that the introduction of any 
number of hybrids, which would either simply live out 
their time of existence or be caught and eaten, could in 
any way affect the natural reproduction or the conse- 
quent supply of fish to the angler. Admitting Dr. Quack- 
enbos' statement, which I do not dispxite, but in which 
I agree with him, that the fishing in the lake is not what 
might be expected after all the stocking that has been 
done for twenty years — for it is now twenty years since 
Mr. Powers placed the first wannanish in Sunapee and 
Squam lakes — I think there are two other very different 
causes which have prevented the increase which inight 
have been and was expected. The first of these was the 
practice of turning the young fry loose in open waters as 
soon as the yolk sac was absorbed, when they easily be- 
came the prey of larger fish, instead of keeping them in 
breeding ponds for a year, until they Were able to take 
care of themselves to a considerable extent and escape 
from the larger fish. This breeding pond system I am 
glad to see is now gaining ground, for my own ex- 
perience has shown me that plants of "young fry" which 
I made with great care years ago were to a large extent 
"gobbled up" by the older inhabitants before they were 
able to look out for themselves. When I planted the 
first winninish in Connecticut Lake, in 1880, some of the 
fry were placed directly in the lake at a point where some 
cold springs flowed in among a bed of loose pebbles, and 
while the lively ones at once hid among the stones, the 
infirm or djnng ones were instantly seized by a swarm 
of leeches, which appeared on the spot from some hidden 
region of the lake. Some j'-ears later I stocked a trout 
brook here at home with fry, from which I never heard 
again, and I am now fully convinced that young trout 
should be kept in guarded and protected waters until 
they are a year old. 
The second point, and following on the first one, is the 
destruction of young trout by the black bass, ard here 
the correspondence referred to gives me exacto-^ the evi- 
dence I needed and wanted, that the bass do live on young 
trout, and that they do not stop at the "small fry" only. 
Although there arc smelt enough in Sunapee Lake for 
both bass and trout, the failure to put in an appearance 
of all the trout which have been planted there leads me to 
believe that the bass have eaten them when they were 
both in deep water in cold weather 
As there are no' bass caught then there is no opportu- 
nity to examine their internal economy to see what they 
have been feeding on; but I have no doubt that if Dr. 
Quackenbos could do so he would find some of the trout 
and salmon whose absence he laments! 
It was a great mistake for Dr. Fletcher ever to put 
bass in a trout lake like Sunapee, and other people are 
rnntinually making mistakes in planting trout and salmon 
ill waters too warm and shallow for them to live in. My 
voung friend, Mr. Hawkins, of Fall River, Mass., a sub- 
■^criber to Forest and Stream, called my attention to 
this point a few days since, referring to the proposed in- 
troduction of winninish into Watuppa Lake, Avhich sup- 
plies Fall River with water for its mills. He told me that 
a few years since, 20,000 fry were placed in the lake, but 
had never been heard from, and that it was now proposed 
to plant a lot of fingerlings, to which I replied that, al- 
though the fingerlings might do better, and survive for a 
while, I did not think the experiment would ever be 
successful, as to the best of my knowledge the water was 
nowhere over 15ft. deep and got very warm in summer, 
and that I had never heard of its being the natural home 
of any of the trout family. When I was on the Fish 
Commission of New Hampshire, some years since, one 
of my colleagues, who was more of a politician than 
an angler, insisted on having his share of the young 
winninish to plant in certain shallow ponds in his section 
of ths State, becaMsPi he said, his constituents demanded 
it of' him, and we wefe obliged, in order to preserve 
harmony in the Commission, to yield to his wishes; but 
that was the last that was ever heard of the winninish. 
Von W. 
Santa Catalina Tuna Club. 
Avalon, Santa Catalina Island, Cal., Aug. 19. — The 
Santa Catalina Tuna Club tournament came to an end on 
Aug. 15, the finale being celebrated by the annual banquet 
of the club at the Metropole, the occasion being unique in 
the history of rod and reel fishing. Never before had so 
many anglers with remarkable records met around the 
same table. The decisions are as follows : 
For beating the record of the president of the club— C. 
F. Holder, i83lbs:— Col. C. P. Morehouse, of Pasadena, 
wins the $100 rod. For the largest tuna of the season, 
25ilbs., caught in five and a half hours, Col. Morehouse 
wins the silver champagne cooler. Col. Morehouse also 
takes the Tuna Club gold medal for largest tuna, and the 
Banning cup. The catch of the largest fish made him 
eligible to the presidency, and he was elected at the 
banquet on the motion of J. M. Elliott, of Los Angeles. 
The prize of an Edward vom Hofe reel, offered for the 
second largest fish, was taken by H. St. A. EarlscUff, of 
Santa Barbara. The fish weighed iSolbs., and fought five 
hours before it came to gaff, towing the boat twenty miles. 
For the first tuna of the season Charles F. Holder won, 
talcing on May 26 a 961b. tuna. This fish tipped over the 
boat, and it was In-ought to gaff in forty minutes. The 
prize was a $15 rod. For taking first tuna, Mr. Holder 
wins the first fish momited by Charles B. Parker, of 
Avalon. The prize of a $15 rod to the boatman who 
gaffed the first tuna of the season goes to Jim Gardner, 
who was Ml". Holder's boatman, and made the remarkable 
swim with the living tuna. 
For exceeding the club rod record of 327lbs.j T, S. 
Manning, of Sierra Madre, .wins the McDonald $100 sil- 
ver-mounted rod. For taking the largest black sea bass, 
33olbs., he wins the Rider-Macomber medal, the Tufts- 
Lyons silver Tiffany cup and an angling suit. This fish 
was fought for three and a half hours, and brought to 
gaff in a heavy sea, only by pouring oil on the water. The 
prize of a silver-mounted bass rod valued at $16 was won 
by Col. R. A. Eddy, of San Francisco, who caught a 
2401b. bass. For the first black sea bass of the season. Col. 
R. A. Eddy wins line and hook offered by E. E. Beeson. 
For the largest white sea bass, S81bs., E. M. Boggs wins 
a silver net rod. For the second largest, 561bs., Fred F. 
Garrish wirxs a rod. 
For largest yellowtail, 37lbs., Fred Garrish wiiis tlie 
John C. Francis gold medal. For the second largest fish, 
361bs., Mr. Garrish wins a rock bass reel. The largest 
yellowtail of the season, taken by a lady, won a silver 
service. Mrs. H. M. Hoyt was the fortunate individual ; 
her fish weighed 3iJ-'2lbs. 
For largest rock bass prize, sih er-niounted rod, wun by 
A. B. Bevans. Decatur, 111. The fish weighed slbs, i2oz. 
For largest sheepshead, izlbs., Dr. George Gale, of San 
Francisco, wins a brierwood angler's pipe. 
For largest whitefish, y^^lhs., Mrs. T. S. Manning won 
one dozen platinum photographs of record catches. 
For best equipped launch for general fishing, the prize 
of a silver-mounted rod was awarded to Harr}^ Elms. For 
best equipped small boat or launch, rods, reels, comfort, 
etc., considered, James Gardner wins for his boats Fortuna 
and Tunita. 
E. L. Doran acted as chairman, and the judges were 
Messrs. Charles F. Holder, F. V. Rider, T. S. Manning, 
Dr. H. K. Macomber and Col. C. P. Morehouse. — Los 
Angeles Times. 
Maine Trout and Deer. 
Boston, Aug. 21. — Fishing in Maine waters is holding 
out in a most remarkable manner. Mr. J. Parker Whit- 
ney, than whom no man is better posted as to the Range- 
ley waters, says that there are more trout than ever there 
and that they are to be had by those who know where to 
go and how to take them. He has lately dem.onstrated his 
theory by showing a guest some remarkable fishing though 
in midsummer. He is quartered at his camps at Mosquito 
Brook, with his family. Mr. L. O. Crane, with Mrs. 
Crane, is enjoying a fly-fishing trip to the Megantic pre- 
serve. They are quartered at Big Island Pond. The 
first evening in, Mr. Crane writes, they caught a couple of 
dozen, all on the fly; they fish no other way. He speaks 
.'Specially of the landlocked salmon there. They have been 
in those waters but a few years, and the little fellows — 
from % to 2lbs. — rise freely to the fly, and are specially 
gamy and add much to the excitement of trout fishing. 
The best part of all is that all the salmon caught are re- 
turned to the water, and will be till the managers of the 
preserve are sure of the stock. Mr. Crane says that the 
woods are specially beautiful, with the occasional sight of 
deer and partridges enough to satisfy anybody. Fishing 
at Mooselucmaguntic Lake is reported to be very good, 
though it is August. Mr. E. B. Haskell, of the Boston 
Herald, is in camp at AUerton Lodge, with his family and 
friends. They find the fishing all they want for the 
table, and that should be enough. At the Birches and at 
Billy Soule's the guests are taking a great many trout, and 
occasionally a salmon. 
Aug. 28. — A letter from the Megantic Preserve says 
that Dr. Bishop and Mr. Raymond saw sixty-four deer 
•in two mornings, hunting. The fifty-eighth one seen was 
shot. It proves to be a beautiful buck, with horns in the 
velvet; just the specimen the Doctor desires for the 
Paris Exposition. The working of the Maine license 
law that premits of a non-resident sportsman shooting a 
deer in September by paying $6 for the privilege, with 
$4 for a resident, is likely to lead to complications, if not 
to some injustice, if I may be allowed to judge from in- 
formation that comes very direct. The granting of these 
Ucenses is put into the hands_ of guides and camp- 
keepers, and I know of two invitations to Boston sports- 
men to come down and hunt in September, and from a 
letter, shown me in confidence, it may be inferred that if 
the hunter is successful in getting his deer— and the 
chances are good that he will be — he is to pay for the 
license ; if not successful, the license matter can be straight- 
ened somehow. The Fish and Game Commissioners 
have put the selling of these licenses into the h^nds of a 
large number of guides, hotel and camp' keepers, as well 
as a citizen or two. 
Mr. L. O. Crane writes of the fishing in Spider Lake 
and Big Island Pond, Megantic Preserve, that it is all 
that could be desired and that his friend Hemmenway, to 
whom the letter is written, must surely make the trip next 
season. Two sportsmen a short time ago caught thirty- 
eight salmon in one day's fishing.— all on the fly. The 
average weight was about i3^1bs.; the smallest ilb. and 
the largest 2'^ lbs. A great many trout were taken at the 
same time. 
Mr. Everett Hyde, Mr. L. B. Noyes, Mr. and Mrs. 
Crocker and Mr. Wentworth, all of Boston, have just 
returned from a very pleasant fishing trip to Mr. Hyde's 
camp, on Birch Island, Holeb Pond, Maine. This loca- 
tion is reached by the old Canada Road, and is among 
the mountains well up to the border. They saw deer al- 
most every day, and counted about thirty in all, several 
being approached within a few rods. Mr. Noyes and two 
others of the party made a trip through the woods to 
Turner Pond, where they found excellent fishing, though 
it was midsummer. They caught about fifty trout, Mr. 
and Mrs. F. H. Talcott, of Dorchester, have recently re- 
turned from a fishing and canoeing trip in Aroostook 
county, Maine. They visited Machias Lakes, where they 
saw in one dav fifty deer and eleven moose. 
Special. 
CHICAGO AND THE WEST. 
Chicago Fly-Castlng Club. 
Chicago, 111., Aug. 19. — The Chicago Fly-Casting Club 
to-day entertained Mr. W. D. Mansfield, of San Fran- 
cisco, known all over the country as the champion fly- 
caster of the Coast and of America, and the outdoor 
caster who has put all his competitors to shame by his 
last outdoor record, 133ft., in the club competition o{ 
July 29 at Stow Lake. Previous to his coming, the mem- 
bers of the Chicago club had nothing but good impres- 
sions and recollections of Mr. Mansfield, and after his 
coming they cannot say enough for him. Mr. Mansfield 
is a sportsman and expert, and the best of pleasant gentle- 
men. The members of the local fraternity have resolved 
that since they can't tie him they will try to imitate hirn. 
In person the expert from the Coast is of that athletic 
build which coaches value for crews and recruiting 
officers for soldiers. About sft. g)4m. in height, his 
weight is i6olbs. In complexion he is fair or florid, with 
light mustache and blue eyes. His expression is firm 
but pleasant, and in build he is the solid, muscular sort 
who excel in sports such as those of the open air. In 
wrist and arm he has surprising strength. 
In casting, Mr. Mansfield works all over. The old- 
Lime advice to the beginner to keep his arm to his body 
is perforce discarded in this sort of work. With wrist, 
arm. body, leg, with mmd and soul, Mr. Mansfield is a 
busy man while he is on the platform. Very often his 
foot leaves the board, and he leans and sways, with the 
action of his whole frame. It is force, and force well ap- 
plied, that does the trick. He casts well because he un- 
derstands the principles of the art perfectly, and is cool 
headed enough to know perfectly at any stage of his cast 
just what he is doing, where he is wrong and when he 
is right, 
Mr. Mansfield gave some lessons to the. members of the 
club to-day, and among his instructions were some very 
useful things, one especially, which he illustrated as he 
spoke. 
"You need a draw, a pull, something to pull against, in 
casting a long line," said he. "Now if you stop to 
think, you can get such a pull with the rod tip best when 
you are pulling a straight line. When you lift a crooked 
or bellied line from the water with your back cast, you 
lose a lot of power. It ought to lie out straight before 
3'ou, before yon try to make your telling casts. If it does 
not lie straight before you before you begin the back cast, 
it is no use to wear yourself out working to make a long 
cast, for the line will not pay out straight behind you, 
either, and you can get the best pull there also on a 
straight line, and not one that is wabbly and bellied out. 
If you don't see things lying right in front of you, don't 
trust to chance, for there is no chance about it. Take 
3'our time, take in line, then pay it out, and when you 
find it lying far out, and directly along the buo}''S, use 
your strength and skill then to make your record casts, 
employing the 'shoot' to give you the last extra feet." 
Mr. Mansfield showed what he meant, and his advice 
was eagerly noted by many very apt pupils. Mr. Bel- 
lows, 127ft. at an earlier date, is thought to be a coming 
caster, and Mr. Mansfield spoke very highly of him. Mr. 
Bellows to-day made 121ft., Mr. Fred Peet iiift. Mr. 
Mansfield looked about him, remarked that it was a warm 
sort of day and he wasn't feeling very well, and then cast 
125ft. with a strange rod and line, without seeming to 
try very hard either. The boys voted that he was a trifle 
out of their class, but resolved to steal his thunder and 
come to San Francisco some day and beat him on his own 
grounds. Mr. Mansfield said it was a long way from the 
Coast to Chicago, but if the Chicago Fly-Casting Club 
decided to hold a tournament here, he would feel that 
he had to come. Personally Mr. Mansfield said that he 
thought the members of this club were about the finest 
fellows he ever saw together in any body of sportsmen. 
It was a very pleasant little visit to-day, and the only re- 
gret it entails is the fact to which Mr. Mansfield calls at- 
tention, that it is too long a distance between here and 
San Francisco. 
Mr. Mansfield tells me that in his club the length limit 
for rod is lift., but there is no weight limit. He uses a 
looz. rod himself, and thinks that a rod in that neighbor- 
hood, looz. or g}ioz., is about the most effective tool for 
this long-distance work. 
Mr. Mansfield left the club grounds early in the after- 
noon with Messrs. Bellows and Peet to catch a train for 
Twin Lakes, Wis. He wants some bass fishing, prefer- 
ably with the fly, and it is hoped he may have the luck 
to strike a few fish at least. He returns to the Coast next 
Tuesday or Wednesday. 
Wotk of the Cl«b. 
The weather to-day was distressingly hot. The wmd 
was puffy and at times brisk, _ lulling toward sundown. 
Tlie casting was done down wind, or toward the aortic 
