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tarried this quite as easily as Collimbia did her three lower 
sails, proving that the added ballast might as well have 
been left ashore for heavy weather and far better for 
light. It helped her, however ; for one thing it pulled up 
the end of the gaff, which had sagged down, and made the 
mainsail sit better, while the extra sail helped to drive 
her. She also caught a slant of wind from inshore that 
let her up and gave her quite a lift out on the leader. 
They worked on for the line, the wind xiolding fresh and 
steady; each tacking at short intervals. Columbia came 
up and crossed at 2 -.40 :oo and Shamrock finished after a 
couple of e-xtra hitches near the line at 2:45:17. The 
times were: 
Start. Finish. Elapsed. Corrected. 
Columbia 11 01 35 2 40 00 ?. 38 25 3 38 09 
Shamrock U OU 34 2 45 17 3 44 43 3 44 43 
The elapsed times on each leg were :' 
Leeward. Windward. 
Columbia 1 17 25 2 21 00 
Shamrock ; 118 43 :i lib Uii 
Columbia leads by i min. 18 sec. off the wind, 5 min. 
on the wind, and 6 min. 18 sec. elapsed time over the 
course. She sailed a safe and easy race and was never 
pushed from start to finish. Those on board were little 
afraid of Shamrock, to leeward or windward, after the 
preceding days, and realized that the only serious danger 
lay in a breakdown. This they tried to avoid at all costs. 
On the way down both boats were strung o\-er with 
backstays of various kinds, in numbers never seen before, 
like a big cobweb. 
When Columbia finished she was greeted in the usual 
noisy fashion by the steamers around the line; the same 
hearty welcome meeting the loser. Corsair/ ran up a big 
ensign at the fore and main trucks, one on the jack staff 
on the bows and one at the end of each gaff. Tlie 
winner was of course heartily cheered by the surrounding 
craft. When Shamrock finished the Erin was still some 
distance from the line, but she steamed up to the middle 
of the fleet and Sir Thomas Lipton led in three cheers for 
Columbia; while the American ensign was run up at the 
fore and main trucks. The Corsair drew up alongside of 
the Erin and Commodore Morgan led in cheers for Sir 
Thomas Lipton. After the yachts were at their mooring, 
Sir Thomas Lipton hurried on board the Corsair to con- 
gratulate the owner of Columbia, the interview, accord- 
ing to the report of the Times, being as follows: 
Arriving at the Sandy Hook anchorage, Sir Thomas 
at once left the Erin on his launch and, accompanied by 
Sir Henry Burdette, Arthur Hill, and Charles Russell, 
visited the Corsair to extend his congratulations to the 
winner. 
The party received a most hearty reception. Com- 
modore Morgan met Sir Thomas at the gangway and em- 
braced him enthusiastically. 
"I congratulate you with my whole heart," said the 
visitor. "You have won the cup and won it fairly." 
"Sir Thomas," replied Mr. Morgan, "while we are glad 
we won the cup we are sorry that it was you who lost it. 
If you have failed to win the cup, you have won the love 
and respect of every living man and woman in America." 
Mr. Iselin, who was standing by Commodore Morgan, 
seemed overcome by emotion as he grasped both Sir 
Thomas' hands and said : 'T can't find words to thank 
you for all vou have done for me. Your conduct has 
wiped out all the bitterness that had arisen through in- 
ternational yacht races. Your personal kindness and con- 
sideration toward me have placed me under eternal obliga- 
tions. I never met a truer sportsman or a fairer man. I 
will never forget you." The health of the Shamrock and 
her owner was drunk amid a great burst of enthusiasm. 
After returning to the Erin, Sir Thomas, referring 
again to his plans, said: 'T can't say what will happen 
now. I must take time to consider. While I can supply 
' the means to furnish another boat, I have got to have a 
designer, and Mr. Fife, poor fellow, is ill. I don't know 
what his condition may be later. 
"I have met the better boat. This was a Shamrock 
day, but, after all, she was beaten fairly. I am glad we 
had to-day's race, because it stopped any excuses that 
might have been made. I say that up to now the better 
boat has always won. I don't see why innuendoes should 
have been made in the past. 
"I am not leaving the country for some weeks, and I 
have it in my mind now to come again, but first I have 
to talk with my club representatives. I would not let my 
business interfere with it, and am willing to challenge 
again unless some one else wishes to do so. I must take 
a few days to consider this before saying anything posi- 
tive." 
Shamrock remained at the point of the Hook over night, 
towing up to the Erie Basin early on Saturday with her 
various tenders. Columbia stopped but a short time at 
her moorings off the Hook, and then continued up to 
Tompkinsville. where she anchored for the ilight; Mr. and 
Mrs. Iselin with their friends coming up to the city. On 
Saturday morning she was taken by the Corsair arid 
towed up to her New Rochelle moorings, off Mr. Iselin s 
house. . . . ,, 
The New York Times prints the following interview: 
Sir Thomas Lipton spent Sunday on board his steam 
yacht Erin During the greater portion of the morning 
he was busy with his secretaries, but in the afternoon he 
took a rest: He saw few visitors, although hundreds of 
small boats floated around the big yacht. Some of the 
most venturesome went up to the gangway and sent 
cards on board. The owner of the unsuccessful cup 
hunter talked freely to a reporter, and chatted for more 
than an hour about his plans for the future. ^ 
"I will not challenge for the cup next year, he said 
in reply to a query. "You see the time is all too short 
to design a boat, built her and have her tuned up to con- 
cert pitch to race next fall. I will, however, issue a chal- 
lenge for 1901, and will complete the arrangements for 
it in a day or two. The matter must be discussed fully 
with the committee of the New York Yacht Club. 
"I have accepted Commodore Morgan's invitation to 
dine to-morrow night at the Metropolitan Club. I ex- 
pect to meet Mr. Iselin and the members of the commit- 
tee there, and we will doubtless talk the matter over then. 
"Will Fife design the new boat? Most assuredly he 
will but in his presept state of health I do nor care to 
approach him on the subject. There will be plenty of 
time for that, however, after the challenge is issued. My 
new boat must be between fifteen and twenty minutes 
faster than Shamrock, and she must be an improvement 
on Columbia, which means almost a miracle, for she is a 
marvelous boat. 
"If any other yachtsman wants to challenge for the cup 
I will willingly step aside, but in any event I will stand 
willing to give every assistance in my power to the man 
who tries to lift the cup. The Shamrock and my crew 
will be at his disposal, so that he can have a trial horse 
whose powers are known. If my challenge is the one 
accepted, I will have Shamrock in commission, and will 
use her in tuning up the new boat. 
"T have heard that Columbia is going to try her luck on 
the other side in the spring. Now, if she were my boat 
I would take her over at once. You can take my word 
for it that she would sweep everything before her. There 
is not a boat on the other side that can compare with her 
in any kind of weather. 
"I sincerely hope Mr. Morgan will bring her over and 
show what a real Yankee racing yacht is like. It will 
teach many of them a lesson. If Columbia does come 
over, I can assure her a cordial welcome and plenty of 
chances to meet our best boats. I will put Shamrock in 
commission and will race her against Columbia in the 
English circuit. 
"Shamrock and Erin will sail a week from Tuesday. I 
want to see her safely oft' and then will leave the follow- 
ing day on the American liner St. Louis. Mr. Fife will 
also sail on the St. Louis if it is possible. He is anxious 
to get home, but even if his physician permits him to 
leave, he will have to be carried down to the steamer. 
"Poor fellow; he is in a bad way, and up to the present 
time I have not mentioned the Shamrock's defeat, al- 
though I know that he is cognizant of it. I spoke to him 
for a moment Saturday night about refitting Shamrock 
for sea, but said nothing about being beaten. 
"The way I have been treated since I have been here has 
touched me deeply. I came to make an attempt to take 
away something you prize highly, yet I was treated most 
generously, and, to cap it all, I am to receive a loving cup. 
I can't express my feelings, but I shall prize it above all 
things. It proves that I was right when I said before I 
sailed that any yachtsman who came over would be treat- 
ed with every courtesy. 
"There have been many wild guesses as to the cost of 
the Shamrock. I can say now that the boat itself as she 
floats to-day, without any expense for bringing her over 
liere. racing her, or cost of crew, is between $400,000 and 
$500,000, but I have not a single regret." 
Messrs. Fife and Ratsey will sail on the Majestic on 
Oct. 25; if Mr. Fife is able to be moved to the steamer. 
Society of Naval Architects and Marine 
Engineers. 
The seventh general meeting of the Society of Naval 
Architects and Marine Engineers will take place in New 
York city, beginning at 10 A. M., Thursday, Nov. 16. 
1899. Through the courtesy of the president and man- 
agers of the American Society of Mechanical Engineers 
the meetings will be held in the auditorium of No. 12 
West Thirty-first street, the sessions continuing through 
Thursday and Friday, Nov. 16 and 17. 
There will be a banquet at Delmonico's at 7 P. M., 
Friday. Nov. 17, to which members and their guests are 
cordially invited. Tickets, exclusive of wine, will be 
$5 each: and they can be obtained at the society's office 
on Nov. 15. 16 and 17. 
The council will meet at No. 12 West Thirty-first 
.street. New York, on Wednesday, Nov. 15. at 3 P. M. 
List of papers to be read before the Society of Naval 
Architects and Marine Engineers at its seventh annual 
meeting: 
Thafsday^ Novembet 16. 
1. Coaling Vessels at Sea.— By Spencer Miller, Esq., 
associate. 
2. Causes for the Adoption of Water Tube Boilers in 
the U. S. Navy. By Engineer-in-Chief Geo. W. Mel- 
ville, U. S. N., vice-president. 
3. Suggestions as to Improved Appliances for Launch- 
ing Ships' Boats. By John Hyslop, Esq. 
4. The Electric Plants of the Battle Ships Kearsarge 
and Kentucky. By Naval Constructor J. J. Woodward, 
U. S. N., member. 
5. The Increasing Complications in War Ships, and 
How Simpler Arrangements Might Be Adopted. By 
Geo. W. Dickie, Esq., member of council. 
6. Beam Formulae Applied to a Vertically Stiffjened 
Bulkhead, with Some Results. By H. F. Norton, hsq.. 
member, 
7. Notes on Sheathing the U. S. S. Chesapeake. By 
Naval Constructor Lloyd Bankson, U. S. N.. member. 
Friday, November i7. 
S. System of Work in a Great Lake Shipyard. By W. 
1. Babcock, Esq., member. 
9. Overhead Cranes, Staging and Riveter Carrying 
Appliances in the Shipyard. By James Dickie, Esq.. 
member. 
10. Designs for the Denver Class Sheathed Protected 
Cruisers. By Chief Constructor Philip Hichborn, U. 
S. N., vice-president. 
11. Novelties in Ship Fittings. By Assistant Naval 
Counstructor R. M. Watt. U. S. N., member. 
T2. Progressive Speed Trials of the U. S. S. Manning. 
By Prof. C. H. Peabody, member of council. 
13. Tactical Considerations Involved in Torpedo-Boat 
Design. By Lieut. A. P. Niblack, U. S. N., associate. 
14. On the Action of the Rudder, with Special Refer- 
ence to the Motion of the Ship while the Helm is being 
put Over. By Prof. Wm. F. Durand, member of coun- 
cil. ^ . 
Take inventory of the good things in this issue o< 
Forest and Stream. Recall what a fund was given 
last week. Count on what is to come next week 
Was there ever in all the world a more abundant 
wMkly store of sportsmen's reading? 
The Executive Committee Meeting. 
The business meeting of the year, the annual meeting 
of the Executive Committee, will be held on Saturday, 
Oct. 28, in Toronto, the Northern Division being in charge 
of affairs for 1900. The main work of the meeting wil/ 
be the selection of a camp site and date for the next meet 
As the result of the meet of 1899, many changes of rule.^ 
have been proposed, but fortunatelj' few of them can he 
carried dut. The trouble during the past year has been 
not with the rules of the Association, which are in the 
main good and comprehensive, but due to the general prac- 
tice of officers and committees of overlooking or disre- 
garding the rules. _ _ •* 
If all officers and members of committees were content 
to study the rules and live up to them, and also to pay due- 
regard to the experience of former j^ears and the long- 
established precedents of the Association , there would 
be little cause for new legislation in either the constitu- 
tion, by-laws or racing regulations. It would be a great 
mistake at the present time to load up the book of the 
Association with special legislation to prevent the re- 
currence of the mistakes of the past year, as most of 
them were based on a disregard of the rules and precedents 
or a failure to enforce existing rules. 
The A. C. A. has probably the be.st machinery of all 
yachting or canoeing organizations for the attainment 
and maintenance of a high standard of excellence in its 
racing rules. The regatta committee of three which has 
had the arrangement of the year's programme and the 
management of the meet races is called on at the end of its 
term of oflice to make a report, in which it is expected that 
the committee will embody its own conclusions as to pos- 
sible changes of programme and amendment of rules. In 
addition to this, all proposed amendments from members 
must be sent to the regatta committee and embodied by 
it in the report. The report must then be published in 
the official organ of the association at least 14 days before 
the annual meeting at which the amendments will be 
passed on. By this plan it is possible for every individual 
member of the association to know what amendments are 
proposed ; to discuss them in point, and to advise the of- 
ficers of his division of his opinion. 
The one weak point of this plan is that the regatta 
committee fails to fulfill its duties in making a full and 
comprehensive report and to have its report published in 
season. The report of the 1899 regatta committee was re- 
ceived on Oct. 16, so that it could not have been published 
within the 14 days prior to Oct. 28. As it contains no 
proposed amendments, either from the committee or from 
members, it will be impossible to vote on any amend- 
ments to the racing regulations at the meeting oh Satur-. 
day. As the report relates only to i-outine matters, we* 
have reserved it to appear with the other reports in the 
record of the meeting. 
Cincinnati Rifle Association. 
Cincinnati, O., Oct. 14 —The regular shoot of the above Associa- 
tion was held to-day. Conditions were 200yds., at the standard' 
target, 7-ring, black: 
Champion score: 
Drube 7 4 6 S 9 o 8 6 7 8—65 
Uckotter 6 6 8 4 7 6 6 3 6 
Xestler 6 9 7 8 8 10 9 8 5 8—78 
Gindele 879997987 9-82 
Weinheimer SJO 8 6 G 8 8 5 6 8—72 
t)runs 664855565 8—58 
Roberts 4 9 9 7 7 7 7 6 6 9—71 
Topf 5 7 6 7 6 5 10 7 6 8-67 
lohnscher 10 10 10 10 5 5 9 5 7 2—73 
Hasenzahl 10 fi 9 8 8 9 8 9 9 8-84 
Trounstine -,. 7 10 7 8 9 4 10 7 8 8—78 
Special Scoi-e. 5-shot score. 
Drube S 7 8 9 5 6 7 8 8 10—76 9 .9 8 9 5-^ 
L'ckotter 10 7 10 7 6 9 7 C 7—74 7 8 4 5 8—32 
Nestler 10 10 6 9 10 7 9 7 9 7—84 G 10 7 7 4-S3 
Gindele 7 7 6 10 10 10 9 10 9 9—87 6 9 10 10 a— i3 
Weinheimer 85 8 7 4 1 0 5 8 9 10—74 7 5 10 5 9— ,^6 
Bruns 7 9 9 8 6 8 8 8 7 10—80 6 5 8 8 7—31 
Roberts 6 6 8 8 10 10 7 6 7 9—77 6 6 8 8 10—38 
Topf fi 10 6 9 8 9 4 5 7 7—71 8 C 4 7 10—34- 
Johnscher 6 6 6 8 10 7 fi 10 10 8—77 6 6 6 8 10—36 
ilasenzahl 9 4 7 9 6 7 9 9 7 5—78 9 6 7 9 8—39 
Trounstine 9 8 8 7 6 7 6 9 8 10—78 9 6 8 5 6—34 
Coalin's Grallery. 
James Coni.in has established himself at No. .513 Sixth avenue, 
Jsew York, on the west side of the avenue, between Thirtieth 
and Thirty-first streets, where he has an open rifle and pistol range 
which is the lonjfest in the city. The French revolver match for 
the Gaston Rennett medal, between twelve amateurs of New York 
and a like tearn of Paris, will be shot at an early date. 
Commended It to His Physician. 
Forest and Stream Pub. Co.: 
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Woodcraft and forward immediately tlie present issue. 
1 am on& of your subscribers and readers who has at last broken 
the chain, and Thursday I am ofi. For three years past all my 
shooting has been done in reading your paper, and for all that 
plea.sure 1 thank yoti very much. Many nights I have read myself 
to sleep with yotir delightful tales when nothing else would dri\'e 
out of my mind thoughts and troubles of business. 
I don't mean anything uncomplimentary in likening your paper- 
rather, my paper — to a soporific. Quite the reverse, I assure you. 
Let any one try it whose head is on fire with details and tor- 
ments of business, so that he thinks sleep a thing only for child- 
hood. If he has ever loved to shoot and loved the woods his 
mind will soon cease to whir!, and peace will soon be followed, 
with quiet sleep. I have done it. 
I have commended it to my doctor to add to his list of medi- 
cines. He tells me one* thiflff is. better, and.tliat is the reality. 
Geo. a. Holdrn, 
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