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FOHBST AND STREAM, 
J. B. Dale's Counter Mark (Thiers— Dido III.) with 
Lady Vassar II. 
The winner of first prize gets a silver meda/1, pre- 
sented by A. J. Green, Windsor. 
The AH-Age. 
The Al!-Age was run on the 3d and 4th inst., with an 
entry of sixten starters. Although the weather was not 
favorable, a heavy rain falling on the 3d, and a strong 
north wind on the 4th, a large and enthusiastic lot of 
sportsmen and spectators was present. The work done 
by the dogs was of the highest order, and they proved 
themselves fit to run in any company. The winner, 
Duke of Vassar, is a snappy, high-headed, free, in- 
dependent ranger, and will be heard from again. This 
is the same dog that won second in the Derby. 
Sportsman, by Lock, was second; he is a handsome 
black, white and tan setter, did some excellent work 
and showed himself a bird finder; was accurate in his 
points and backing, and a good ranger. 
For third place, Don, English setter, is a slashing 
good goer, cuts out his field well and carries his head 
high. His work was far above the average. 
For fourth place Highland, English setter, is a fine, 
attractive dog, has an excellent way of going, and only 
requires a little work to make a high-class shooting dog. 
The winner of the fifth place. Dan, is litter brother of 
Don, the winner of the third place; he ran a good race 
and has good ability as a bird finder and covers his 
ground well. 
The sixth place was won by Miss Mischief, English 
setter; she is a wide ranger and fast mover, and only 
requires experience to make a grand shooting dog. 
The winner of first prize gets a very handsome silver 
cup. presented by H. B. McKay, of Detroit, to be won 
three times by the same owner; also a rich piece of silver 
and cut glass, presented by Walker & Sons. The judge 
was John Davidson, of Monroe, Mich. The order of 
running was: 
M. K. Cowan's setter dog Sportsman (Lock — Juno) 
with Victor Chauvin's setter dog Thorne (Dash Antonio 
' — Maggie). 
J. Baugham's pointer Duke of Vassar (Hal Pomter— 
King Bow's Vic) with Marcon & Morton's pointer bitch 
Belf Pointer (Hal Pointer— Bel! of Hessen). 
Marcon & Morton's setter bitch Dido III. (Cincin- 
natus — Daphne) with R. Baugham's setter bitch Miss 
Mischief (Dash Antonio — Patty B.). 
Marcon & Morton's setter bitch Ladv Rodfield (Rod- 
field— Mark's Nellie) with W. J. Camplau's setter dog 
Don (Toledo B.— Rose). 
H. K. Cowan's setter dog Hurricane (Frank— Fmglas 
Fawn') with H. T. W. Ellis' setter bitch Maggie Mur- 
phy (r)uke of Manitoba — Hickory Link). 
W. C. Donaldson's setter bitch Nellie Brady (Dash 
Antonio— Nellie Breeze) with T. W. Brooks' dog Rex 
(Bob Anderson ). . , tt- 
A. J. Green's — (Prince— Quail) with Victor 
Chauvin's setter dog Highland (Mingo, Jr.— Lonewalk). 
George Mair'? pointer dog Watford Boy (County 
Graphic ■- ) with Wm. J. Campeau's setter dog 
Don (Toledo B,.— Rose). R. M. Morton. 
Points and Fltishcs* 
The famous black poodle champion Milo (A. 30101), 
owned by the Meadowmere Kennels, Southampton, L. 
I., died on Tuesday of last week. He was by Bob- 
Sjdvia, and was bred by M. C. Lepage, Pans, France. 
He was. whelped Feb. n, 1888, so that he had reached 
an age which was old, as the ages of dogs arc measured. 
He had 3 remarkably successful bench career. 
The daily papers on both sides of the ocean are each 
week nominating new challengers for the America Cup, 
but thus far all those mentioned have declined the honor 
thus thrust upon them. It seems probable that there will 
be no race in 1900, but that Sir Thomas Lipton will re- 
turn in 1901. 
The Yacht Racing Association of Long Island Sound 
has taken two important steps at its recent meeting, m 
returning to the old Seawanhaka rule, and in finally 
abolishing time allowance within the classes. For the past 
year the Association has been nominally committed to the 
girth rule, adopted in October, 1898, by the Y. R, A. of 
N. A, While the old Seawanhaka rule was retained by 
the Sound Y. R. A. for the classes below 36ft., the girth 
rule was adopted for the 36ft. and all larger classes, 
The largest club in the Association, the Seawanhaka 
Corinthian, refused to acept the girth rule, and has sailed 
all of its races this season under the old rule; while the 
Larchmont Y. C, not a member of the Association, but 
an important factor in the Sound racing, has also refused 
to adopt the girth rule. This being the case, there has 
been practically no racing under the new rule and it has 
been a mere dead letter. The Atlantic Y. C, not a niem- 
ber of the Association, but now the only racing club of 
any size below Hell Gate, has tried the girth rule through 
the season, but also abandoned it. As most of the yachts 
in the Sound clubs are under 36ft., there has been no 
opportunity to test the rule in any way. 
It cannot be said that the girth rule has had a fair test 
about New York, or that it has been rejected on account 
of proved defects; no yachts have been built under it 
and there has been merely a pretext at racing a few old 
boats. At the same time it is quite plain that the rule 
can never be adopted about New York or Boston. 
When the rule was up for discussion before the Y. R. A. 
of N. A., two arguments were made for it, that it had 
worked well in actual practice in Great Britain, and that 
•;t5 adoption here would be a great step toward the union 
of yachting interests of the two great yachting nations, and 
would lead to the ultimate adoption of one better rule by 
both if this one tsroved unsuitable. We urged at the time 
that the test of the rule in Great Bintain was hy no means 
thorough and concUisive. and failed to prove in the face 
of certain obvious defects, that the rule was adapted to 
Atserican- yachting. That this view was correct is borne 
out by the result on the Great Lakes, where a dozen 
yachts were built under the girth rule for the 35ft. class, 
the winner being a shoal draft skimming dish. While 
in our opinion it is still an open question whether this 
type, as represented so well by Genesee, is superior to the 
English keel type, as represented by Beaver, under all- 
round conditions; thefactis incontestable that the rule per- 
mits the building of a type never contemplated in the most 
remote degree by its framers, and which they would not 
for a moment admit. The success of Genesee proves that 
the British designers^ in framing the rule in 1894, failed 
to recognize one of its most potent possibilities; at least 
in the hands of American designers. 
It has already been proved that the measurement of 
girth is not, as the British designers intended it should be, 
a strong inducement^ to fill out the section to a point that 
would be appreciable in added accommodation as com- 
pared with the fin type. Further than this, Genesee proves 
the additional point we made a year ago against the rule , 
that while the girth measurement as applied to the keel 
types does not induce a man to improve his model , when 
it is applied to the shoal centerboard types it offers strong 
inducements to cut down the depth of body and to make a 
yacht of limited headroom and easily capsizable. 
The plea of uniformity in measurement on the part of 
England and America was plausible and inviting enofigh, 
and under the circumstances it was worth while to take 
some risk to profit by a peculiarly favorable opportunity 
for bringing together the British Y. R. A. and the 
American clubs. The one weak point was in the power 
of the young Union to induce the American clubs to 
accept the girth rule after the Union had formally adopted 
it as a law. The Sound Y. R. A., which is the parent of 
the Y. R. U. of N. A., went as far as it could in at once 
adopting the new rule and in urging its use upon its com- 
ponent clubs; but with small result. A year's trial has 
shown the impossibility of forcing the adoption of the 
rule about New York; while Boston from the first has de- 
clined even to attempt it. Under these circumstances it 
was useless to continue in a nominal adherence to the 
rule. 
As far as the Lakes are concerned, it is plain that they 
were very much better off with the old proviso limiting 
the coefficient of midship section than under the girth 
rule; but having adopted the latter and built a number of 
yachts under it, they cannot now afford to change, unless 
for something very much better than either. The fact of 
the matter is tliat American yachting is no nearer to the 
much-needed new rule of measurement than it was a year 
ago, or two years ago. 
It would be hard to say how many years have elapsed 
since the Forest and Stream began its attack upon the 
twin evils of time allowance and slovenly methods of 
starting: advocating, at a time when all such innovations 
were most unpopular, the adoption of the English methods 
of class racing by yachts of uniform measurement; and 
timing the start of a race from the gun instead of allow- 
ing ten to fifteen minutes' interval during \vhich each 
yacht was timed separately. It is most gratifying to find 
that to-day both of these important principles are gen- 
erally recognized throughout the United States, so much 
so as to be considered as American institutions.^ The 
Y. R. A. of Massachusetts some time ago gave a quiet and 
decent burial to time allowance, and now the Sound 
Y. R. A. has followed its example, to the lasting good of 
yacht racing. 
The knockabout idea, one of the best introduced in 
recent years, has been the victim of all sorts of perversions 
and misconceptions, but none worse than that of the Sound 
Y. R. A. of last year in establishing a so-called knock- 
about class with an allowance of 1,000 sq. ft. of sail for 
25ft. l.w.l. It was evident when the class was established 
that the resulting boats could be but racing machines in 
disguise, and in no sense knockabouts. There is nothing 
surprising in the fact that after a fair trial the class has 
proved a failure and has been abandoned. 
Columbia. 
Nothing positive is as yet known of the future move- 
ments of Columbia, and the Ncav York Herald, in an 
article which we herewith reprint, states that the plan 
of sending her abroad has been abandoned. The Herald 
says: 
At the finish of the last race between the yachts 
Columbia and Shamrock, just at the moment when 
scores of steam whistles and thousands of hearty cheers 
were telling the storv of the home boat's successful 
defense of the Cup. both Mr. Iselin and Capt. "Nat" 
Herreshoff made significant remarks. 
Mr. Iselin crossed Columbia's quarter-deck to where 
Mr. Herreshoff was standing, and shaking the designer's 
hand heartily congratulated him upon the result of the 
match. , , •, , 
Then Mr. Isehn, looking earnestly into the face of the 
designer, said deliberately: 
"Mr, Herreshoff, this is my last America Cup race." 
Capt. "Nat" returned Mr. Iselin's earnest gaze and re- 
plied in his Quiet way: 
•And it is also my last, Mr. Iselin.' 
From 1S93 to 1899 Mr. Iselin and Mr. Herreshoff 
have been associated in the defense of the old trophy 
which Sir Thomas Lipton wanted to "lift" so badly. 
First it was with Vigilant, in 1893; next with Defender, 
in 1895, and then Columbia. All these winning boats 
were designed 'oy Capt. "Nat" Herreshoff, and Mr. 
Iselin was the managing owner of each. This record 
needs no comment. - 
It required nearly a year to build Vigilant and get 
her into racing shape. Defender took a simdar period, 
and it was about fourteen months from the time that 
Columbia's model was decided upon to the last of her 
races with Shamrock. The strain on both the designer 
and the managing owner, particularly tn the late match, 
was so great their intimate friend.'; may not now be snr- 
piised to hear that they have sailed the last gf their cup 
matches. ^ . ~ „ 
Whether the decision made by Mr. H«rreshoft means 
that he will not design another Cup defender has not 
and possibly may not be easily ascertained, as he is a. 
man of very few words and keeps his own counsel; aii4 
it is not at all nrobable that Mr. Iselin will talk of his 
future plans. But there the case stands. The remarks 
quoted were made as given, and have been since repeated 
by those who heard them. 
Should these gentlemen not change their minds the 
New York Y. C. will find it difficult to replace them 
in the event of another international match. 
Unless Com. J. Pierpont Morgan and Mr. C. Oliver 
Iselin change their minds the suT;cessful Cup defender 
Columbia will not be sent abroad this winter or next 
spring. 
It may have been the intention of the owners of 
Columbia in the early summer to give her a sea rig 
during the winter and send her to the Mediterranean, 
but that decision, if it were every fully reached, has been . 
reconsidered, and the big cutter will remain on this 
side of the Atlantic. > 
Columbia 15 now dismantled -and lies 'at anchor off 
Hawkins' yard. City Island, where she will be hauled 
out in a short time alongside of Defender, there to re- 
main until needed. Every precaution will be taken to 
protect Columbiq, from the weather, and she will be 
housed over, and the curious who might visit City 
Island for the sole purpose of studying her model may 
save themselves the trouble of the jb'urntey,' aS the new 
boat will be hidden from view immediately after she 
is taken from the water. , , 
The mast of Columbia' was removed several days ago, 
and with the other spars was sent ashore, where all will 
be looked after by Mr. Hawkins. The sails, running 
rigging and movable deck articles have been stored in one 
of the many buildings on Mr. Iselin's grounds, at New 
Rochelle, that they may be under observation at all 
times. . ^ 
Mr. and Mrs. Iselin will go to Europe early in De- 
cember, and may remain away all winter. 
Veritas. 
The keel sloop Veritas was designed in 1897 for James 
G. Averell, Esq., of Rochester, N. Y., by W. P. Stephens 
and built by the Spalding St. Lawrence Boat Co., at Og- 
densburgh. She was designed for the then existing 22ft. 
class of the Lake Y. R. A., the measurement being by 
Seawanhaka rule, a total of four persons being allowed on 
board, but the waterline being measured without the 
crew. The order was for a cruising yacht, capable of 
making the circuit of the lake and with room for three 
persons, at the same time to be fast enough for the regu- 
lar class racing. The S section was adopted in preference 
to the fin-keel as giving more depth of body and toot 
room and an abler type of boat than any of the fin-keels 
then in the class, such as Koko. The design is interest- 
ing mainly as a study m the employment of very full level 
lines as a means to the saving of measured waterline. 'At 
that time the fastest yachts of the same sad area were of 
the 25ft. special class. Smuggler, Nameless, and the fin- 
keels El Chico and Nemadjy, all carrying 625 sq. ft. ot 
sail on a water line of 25ft. and a draft of over 6ft. It was 
determined to try the same area with 6ft. less waterline 
and over ift. less draft. The dimensions of Veritas are: 
Length — 
Overall 3oft. i ui. 
L.W.L ■■ 19ft. 3 m. 
Overhang — ■ 
Bow 4ft. 10 m. 
Stern • 6ft- 
Beam— n.- 
Extreme ' 8tt. 3 I'l. 
L.W.L 7ft. eVzin. 
Draft 5ft. 
Freeboard — 
Bow 2ft. ; 111. 
Least ift. 9 in. 
Counter 2ft. lyim. 
Displacement, long tons 3-52 
Ballast, lead keel, long tons 1-75 
Displacement per in. of immersion, lbs. . . 554 
Midship Section- 
Area 12.48 sq. ft. 
Coefficient 33 1-3 per cent. 
From Station 0 10.48 sq. ft. 
Lateral Plane— 
Area hull 56.4r sq. ft. 
Area rudder 7.34 sq. ft. 
Area total • 63. 75 sq. It. 
Coefficient, without rudder 58 sq. ft. 
C. L. R. from Station O, with 
rudder... 11.32 ft. 
L.W.L. Plane— ^ ^ . - ^ 
Area 106.48 sq. ft. 
Coefficient. •• -73 sq. ft. 
All measurements are for fresh water. ^ 
1'he yacht has proved very satisfactory in three seasons 
use, having cruised from end to end of the lake, carrying 
a party of three young Corinthians with as much com- 
fort as can be expected in so small a craft. She has also ^ 
sailed a good deal in the home races of the Rochester ^ 
Y C. at Charlotte and in the L. Y. R. A. races at the , 
different lake ports, and has won a number of prizes. The ; 
sail plan and details of construction will be given next; 
week. ' 
, A well-attended meeting of the Yacht Racing Associa- 
tion of Massachusetts was held on Nov. 2 at Youngs; 
Hotel. The meeting, which was a special one, was called! 
for the purpose of acting upon amendments to the by-laws, j 
racing rules and limitations of cabin yachts. ' _ j 
The proposed amendments, aiming to alter the sail! 
area of 2T and 2Sft. cabin yachts, to amend Racing Rule 
XI hy adding new section to read, "In the 21ft. cabin class 
working sails only shall be allowed," to amend Racmgl 
Rule X'XVL, Section 3, relative to protest by adding or 
has altered or added to her sails so as to Increase her sail 
area " and to amend by-laws. Article XIII., meetings, Sec 
tion's, by "substituting "two-thirds of the." m place o 
the word "five." . , 
All the proposed amendments, with the exception ot tti- 
last two, were voted down: the one relating to sail altera 
tions oassing. and tliat of meetings the words twc. 
thirds" were changed to "a majority."— Boston Post. 
