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FOREST AND STREAM. 
[JjUNE 30, ipOd. 
6. South Boston yachting ' carnival. Mosquito Fleet and South 
Boston, open race. 
6. Quincy, ladies' day, Quincy, Boston Harbor. 
7. Norwalk, club, Norwalk, Long Island Sound. 
7. South Boston, open, hand and sailing dinghies. City Point, 
Boston Harbor. 
7. South Boston yachting carnival, open handicap. 
7. South Boston, sailing dinghies. City Point, Boston Harbor. 
7. Winthrop, handicap, Winthrop, Boston Harbor. 
7. Duxbury, 18ft. class, Duxbury, Mass. 
7, American, club, Newburyport. 
7. Quannapovvittj commodore's cup. 
7. Seav.'annaka Cor., Center Island cup, Oyster Bay, L. I. Sound. 
7, Royal St. Lawrence, 22ft. cruising, 5-rater. 17ft. and dinghy 
classes, Valois, Lake St. Louis. 
7. Riverside, annual. Riverside, Long Island Sound. 
7. Hull-Massachusetts, club, Hull, Boston Harbor. 
7. Queen City, Smith cup, 16ft. class, Toronto, Toronto Bay. 
7-14. Atlantic, annual cruise. Long Island Sound. 
11. East Gloucester, evening race, Gloucester, Mass. 
12. Newport, ladies' day, Newport, Narragansett Bay. 
12. American, ladies' sail, Newburyport. 
12-13-14. New York, Newport series, Newport, off Brenton's Reef. 
14. Sea Cliff, annual, Glen Cove, Long Island Sound. 
14. Bridgeport, annual, Bridgeport, Long Island Sound. 
14 Hull-Massachusetts, club, Hull, Boston Harbor. 
14. Royal St. Lawrence, 22ft. cruising, 5-rater, 20ft,, 17ft. and 
dinghy classes, Beaurepaire, Lake St. Louis. 
14. Oueen City, Tupper cup, 22ft. class, Toronto, Toronto Bay. 
14. Haverhill, fishing trip, Haverhill, Mass. 
14. Penataquit Corinthian, special. Bay Shore, Great South Bay. 
14. Winthrop, handicap, Winthrop, Boston Harbor, 
14. Savin Hill, handicap. Savin Hill, Boston Harbor. 
14. Quannapowitt. 
14. Duxbury, 18ft. class, Duxbury, Mass. 
14. Beverly, Monument Beach, Buzzards Bay. 
14. Corinthian, championship, Marblehead, Massachusetts Bay. 
14. Seawanhaka Cor., Roosevelt cup, Oyster Bay, L. I. Sound. 
14-15. California, annual cruise, Sacramento River. 
16 and alternate following days, Newport Y. R. A. 70ft. series, 
Newport, of! Brenton's Reef. 
16-17-18. Ouincy, challenge cup, Quincy, Boston Harbor. 
18. East Ijloucester, evening race, Gloucester, Mass. 
21. Queen City, World cup. 17ft. special class, Toronto, Toronto 
Bay. 
21. Hull-Massachusetts, club, Hull, Boston Harbor. 
21. Canarsie, open, Canarsie, Jamaica Bay. 
31. Stamford Corinthian, annual, Stamford, Long Island Sound. 
21. Mosquito Fleet, club handicap. City Point, Boston Harbor. 
21. Norwalk, club. Norwalk, Long Island Sound. 
21. Penataquit Cor., special, Bay Shore^ Great South Bay. 
21. Jamaica Bay, open, Canarsie, Jamaica Bay. 
21. Kingston, club, Kingston, Lake Ontario. 
21. Winthrop, swimming and rowing races, Winthrop, Boston Har- 
bor. 
21. American, club. Newburyport, Mass. 
21. South Boston, handicap. City Point, Boston Harbor. 
31. Columbia, championship, Boston, Boston Harbor, 
21. Duxbury, 18ft. class, Duxburj', Mass. 
21. Ouannapowitt, commodore's cup. 
21. Seawanhaka Cor., Center Island cup, Oyster Bay, L. I. Sound. 
21-23-24. Royal St. Lawrence, Seawanhdca cup trials, Pointe Claire, 
Lake St. Louis. 
21-28. Larchmont, race week, Larchmont, Long Island Sound. 
22. California, return from Sacramento River. 
22. Haverliill, race and chowder, Haverhill, Mass. 
23. Manchester, championship, Manchester, Mass. 
25. East Gloucester, evening race, Gloucester, Mass. 
26. Burgess. Marblehead, Massachusetts Bay. 
27. Manchester. Crownhurst, cup, Manchester, Massachusetts Bay. 
28. Royal St. Lawrence, 22 and 17ft. classes, Dorval, Lake St, Louis. 
2S. Jubilee, open, Beverly, Massachusetts Bay. 
28. Hull-Massachusetts, club, Hull, Boston Harbor. 
28. Oueen City, skit? classes, Toronto, Toronto Bay. 
28. Haverhill, second championship, Haverhill, Mass. 
28. Penataquit Cor., special, Bay Shore, Great South Bay. 
28. Jamaica Bay, dory class, Canarsie, Jamaica Bay. 
28. Winthrop. handicap, Winthrop. Boston Harbor. 
28. Beverlv, Van Rensselaer cup, Buzzards Bay. 
28. Corinthian, championship, Marblehead, Massachusetts Bay. 
28. Savin Hill, handicap, Savin Hill, Boston Harbor. 
28. Ouannapowitt,' club. 
28. Seawanhaka Cor., Leland cup, Oyster Bay, L. I. Sound. 
30. Manchester, championship, Manchester, Mass. 
28-Aug. i. Corintliian, Philadelphia, annual cruise, L. I. Sound. 
New Factors in Measurement. 
The following letter to the editor of the Yachtsman 
covers the point which we have frequently made in the 
course of recent discussions of the measurement question 
— that no rule can be devised which will give perfect 
freedom as to the choice of type. 
Partick, Scotland, June 2.— Editor The Yachtsman: 
I feel that I am somewhat venturesome in writing to 
criticise any opinions expressed by the Man at the Wheel, 
but I am strongly of opinion that in his advocacy of the 
rating rule proposed by Col. Bucknill he has begim to en- 
courage an attempt upon the impracticable. It is surely 
too much to expect of any rating formula that it should 
enable an owner to say to the designer, "I want a boat 
like Niagara," or "I should like one like Penitent," with- 
out any fear that the type would be a bar to success. 
The' ideal rating rule, which, when applied to boats 
of varying types, should place them upon an equality for 
racing purposes, is, I submit, precisely as unattainable, as 
an empirical formula for determining, let us .say, the 
average speed of the same boats. 
No rating rule as yet devised on the lines of taxing 
dimensions, lineal or square, has failed to produce in the 
end a certain definite type, and the reason of this is surely 
pretty obvious. 
May I suggest to the Man at the Wheel that if any rule 
will produce in the long run a tj'pe which is generally 
admitted to be "wholesom.e," it will have achieved so un- 
precedented, a success that owners who desire beautiful 
freaks of the Niagara type might safely be left: out of 
account. R- S. Hubbard. 
Mr. Hubbard has stated the matter very plainly, and we 
heartily agree with him. especially in the conclusion — if 
a rule can be devised, which, after a fair trial, produces a 
generally wholesome class of yacht, such, for instance, as 
is aimed at in most one-design classes, the question of pro- 
viding for the few men who still desire to build freaks 
can be easily settled— in fact, we have already proposed a 
plan to effect this, the permanent maintenance of a racing 
division in each class for men who wash to build Co- 
lumbias, Niagaras and Skows, with good prizes whenever 
there are enough boats in a class to justify them. 
We imagine that in the above Mr. Hubbard has ex- 
perienced the same difificulty in the way of clear and 
concise expression as we spoke of a short time since, as he 
has been compelled to fall back on the word "type" for 
want of a better. While it is a fact that all rules thus far 
tried have in the end resulted in the production of a 
single type, using the word in its narrowest sense, the 
formula which we have advocated was specially devised 
with a view to the avoidance of this clearly recognized 
evil, and the ultimate oroduction of a wholesome class of 
all-round yachts of dififerent types, at least allowing a cer- 
tain choice as to keel or centerboard. and offering the 
designer a fair range in dimensions, such as existed at the 
time the old 40ft. class came into existence (1888). It 
is still our private opinion that in all classes up to 70ft 
the keel boat will regularly beat the centerboard, but at 
the same time we believe that any rule for use in this 
country should at least give a fair fighting chance to the 
centerboard type. 
The idea of the Yachtsman, that it is possible to devise a 
formula which will give to every man a perfectly equal 
chance to win races with a fin-keel or Skow racing ma- 
chine, a semi-fin racer, a fast cruiser or a real cruising 
yacht, is held by some yachtsmen in this country, and is 
one of the main reasons for the adoption and subsequent 
abandonment of the girth rule. As long as the search for 
a new rule is carried forward on this basis, we may look 
for similar failures. The most that can be asked of any 
measurement formula devised by falible mortals is that 
it will bar freaks of extravagant proportions and flimsy 
construction, and give the prizes to yachts that are really 
fast, and yet of reasonable accommodation, seaworthy 
model and durable construction. It is neither necessary 
nor desirable that the rule shall give the advantage to 
the other extreme, of great displacement, coarse lines 
and clumsy build. " 
The whole subject of rule-making and of building to 
rule involves so many factors that are absolutely un- 
known that it is impossible to predict with any certainty 
the otitcome of say three years of designing and racing 
under any new rule. This is as true of the rule which 
we have advocated as of any other, and it is quite possible 
that a thorough trial would prove it to be wholly or par- 
tially a failure. There is, however, this much to be 
said for it at the present time. It is a modern rule, devised 
to meet certain recognized conditions in yachting and 
certain plain defects of all existing and previous rules. It 
is based upon a principle which is new in measurement 
legislation, the relation of the area of midship section to 
its leading dimensions, breadth and draft; but this 
principle is closely allied to what is generally recognized 
as an essential feature of success in any new rule, the 
incorporation, directly or indirectly, of displacement as 
factor. This principle was derived from a careful study 
of several score of yachts of all periods, from America 
to Volunteer and Minerva, centerboard and keel, and of 
all proportions ; but all of what is popularly classed as 
"wholesome type." No matter how they vary in age, 
size, proportions, rig and type (keel or centerboard), these 
yachts show a most remarkable uniformity in the relation 
of the area of midship section (the index of the dis- 
placement) to the breadth and draft. The resulting for- 
mula is what the Yachtsman, if we recollect, has very 
properly called a perfectible one; its result, as proved on 
trial, can be modified in any way by a slight change of the 
constants without disturbing the factors themselves. As 
originally submitted for discussion, a certain constant, 
derived as stated from the best yachts of all periods, was 
suggested for trial as promising to produce a generally 
wholesome class of keel and centerboard yachts; at the 
same time, it was shown that by varying this constatit 
one way or the other the same formula could be made 
without fail to encourage the fin-keel racing machine on 
the one hand, or the big cruising box on the other. In 
adopting such a formula for trial, the sensible way would 
be to provide in advance that as soon as the rule showed 
a tendency to produce an undesirable craft, either in the 
direction of the racing machine or of giving the prizes to 
really slow cruising boats, the constant should be changed 
to counteract the undesired result. The necessary 
change, provided that it were made just as soon as the 
need for it became apparent, and not too late, as in the 
present case, after the fin-keel had driven out all other 
types, would be so small as to have no serious disturbing 
effect on existing yachts. 
While much progress has been made of late in the way 
of clearing up many old ideas that befogged the whole 
subject of measurement, there is still a serious obstacle in 
the belief that it is possible to find a perfect formula 
which, once adopted, will place all types of yachts on an 
equal footing for all time. So far from this being the 
case, there is no reason to-day to look for a formula 
which will do other than favor one of three great classes 
of yachts — racin.g machine, fast cruiser or cruising tub — at 
the expense of the other two. Even with a good formula 
in hand for the encouragement of the med'um class, the 
object now sought for by many if not most vachtsm.en, 
the trouble will be by no means over, but it will be neces- 
sary to guard this formula and study its results as yachts 
are built and raced under it Avith a view to its constant 
am.ehdment, according to a definite plan. No matter 
how successful it may be at the outset, if left alone for a 
term of years it will almost inevitably go the way of all 
others, and produce one type, and that an imdesirable 
one. . 
East Gloacester Y. C. 
GLOUCESTER, MASS. 
Monday, June 18. 
The East Gloucester Y. C. sailed a race on June 18 in a 
strong N.E. breeze, the times being : 
First Class. 
Length. Elapsed. Corrected. 
Onda, Greenough 21.02 1 53 02 1 22 M 
Rambler, Pome?oy 21.05 2 00 58 1 24 33 
Masooka. Heard 23.08 2 00 40 1 27 Oo 
Alethea, Colby 23.06 Disabled. 
Second Class. 
Nymph, O. Perkins 19.02 2 07 33 1 27 55 
Teuton, button Disabled. 
Third Class. 
Onlv One. J. Perkins If.OS \ 20 34 0 51 45 
Snider Five M-O' 1 24 37 0 55 00 
Dorothea. -Findley 13.09 1 25 28 0 55 22 
Gracie, Korris i .^t o4 
Knickerbocker A. C. Ellsworth Cup. 
BAYONNE — ^NEWARK BAY. 
Saturday, June 23. 
The Knickerbocker Athletic Club sailed a race for the 
Ellsworth cup off the club station, Newark Bay. on June 
23 in a light breeze. The times were : 
Elapsed. ( on'ected 
Ktttiwirife 2 18 49 I 44 :» 
Rhuhama • 2 20 02 1 50 52 
TTarhin0-°r " 22 37 1 57 5fi 
Gertrude ■ -^fi^j^ 2 01 12 
Restless .i- w^^Sj""^^- 
fgg^.gj. . . Withdrew. 
Xpteryx - Withdrew. : 
Seawanh aka Corinthi an I Y. C*l 
Special Races, 
OYSTER BAY — LONG ISLAND SOUND. 
First Day, Thursday, June 21. 
The first of the series of three open races arranged by 
the Seawanhaka Corinthian Y. C. was sailed on June 21 
in a moderate westerly breeze and smooth water, the 
courses being on the Sound off Oyster Bay. The third of 
the new 8o-footers, Virginia, was present with her owner, 
W. K. Vanderbilt. Jr., at the wheel. Mr. Crownin shield 
sailed the new 30-footer Empronzi, designed by him, in her 
first race, leading over the first round. The start was 
made at i :o5, Rainbow leading Mineola over the line, with 
Vigilant nearly a minute astern. On the reach to the 
first mark Mineola and Rainbow fell into a luffing match, 
which took them well out of their course, and by going 
straight for the mark Virginia got the lead and held it 
for the rest of the round, but was passed by Mineola near 
the line. The first round was timed: 
Mineola 2 43 00 
Virginia 2 43 16 
Windora 2 46 30 
Painbow 2 46 50 
Hera 2 47 47 
O Shima San 2 48 30 
Pollvwog 2 48 42 
Empronzi 2 54 46 
Persimmon 2 54 50 
Oiseau 2 55 19 
Sis 2 55 19 
Spindrift 2 55 55 
Paider 2 .5R 11 
Snapper 2 56 28 
Colleen 2 54 46 
Alerion .2 57 06 
Amorita 2 58 57 
Quissetta .3 01 15 
Wawa 2 48 51 
Esperanza .2 49 15 
Mai 2 54 00 
Scamp .,....,.M<'. 2 .54 29 
Grayling ............2 54 32 
The finish was timed : 
Windora 4 08 11 
Hera 4 13 56 
Wawa 4 14 04 
Esperanza 4 14 16 
Polly wog 4 14 29 
Mineola ; 4 15 44 
Sis 4 16 06 
Persimmon ^.4 16 44 
S'-amp .;.4 17 20 
Virginia .4 17 33 
Snapper 4 18 10 
Raider 4 19 42 
The full times were: 
Schooners— 75ft. Cla-js— Racing Trim— Start, 1:10. 
Racing Leneth. E'apsed. Corrected. 
Amorita, W. Gould Brokaw 74.35 3 31 37 3 31 37 
Quissetta, H. F. Lippitt 73.59 3 37 37 3 37 12 
Cutters— soft. Class— 23% Miles— Start. 1:05. 
Mineola, August Belmont 80.00 3 10 44 
Rainbow, Cornelius Vanderbilt 80.00 3 17 02 
Virginia, W. K. Vanderbilt. Jr 80.00 3 12 33 
Sfift. Class— Start, 1:15— 16i^ Mi'es. 
O Shima San, J. T. Pratt 35.81 3 33 30 
30ft. Class— Start, 1:2.5—361/2 Miles. 
Spindrift 4 19 58 
Colleen 4 20 46 
Rainbow • 4 22 02 
Oiseau .......4 23 52 
Empronzi 4 26 05 
.Alerion 4 26 27 
Thelga 4 40 42 
Amorita .4 41 37 
Oui^setta 4 47 37 
O Shima San 4 48 20 
Grayling Withdrew. 
Mai Withdrew, 
2 58 25 
2 58 52 
3 01 05 
Alerion, A. H. Alker 28.30 3 01 27 
Oiseau. T. R. Maxwell, Jr •'^O.OO 2 58 52 
Empronii, Alfred Peats 30.00 3 01 05 
Sloops— Special 30ft. Class— Start, 1t20— leV? Miles. 
Hera, R. N. Ellis 2 53 oH 
Esperanza, H. O. Havemever, Ir 2 .54 IH 
Wawa, Res-imiM Brooks..'.....'.: i rA Oi 
Pollywog. A. H. Paget 2 54 29 
M^i, F. H. Brewster Withdrew. 
Cntboats— 30ft. Oass— Siart, 1:25. 
Grayling, H. W. Warner 26.67 Withdrew. . 
Windora, John Green.,, .... 2 43 11 2 43 11 
RaceabOuts- Start, liiJO-^lS^ Miles. 
Sis, F. T. Bedford 2 46 06 
Persimmon. De V. H. Warner. ..... .21.00 3 46 40 
.Scamp, Johnrton De Forest .... 2-47 20 
Snapper, H. L. Maxwell 2 48 10 
Raider. H. M. Crane 2 49 42 
Spindrift, Pirie Brotliers 2 49 58 
Colleen, L. R. Alberger 2 50 46 
Seawanhaka Knockabouts — Start, 1:35. 
Thelga. .\. P. Thayer 21.00 3 05 42 
Friday, June 22. 
The second day brought the best breeze of the season — 
a good blow from S.S.W.. turning up the whitecaps on the 
Sotmd. The third leg of the triangle was the windward 
one and there was plenty of wind on the second round. 
As on the first day, Virginia was steered by her owner. 
The times were : 
First Class— Cutters-^Start, 1:U5. 
Finish. Elapsed. 
Percy Chubb 3 57 43 2 52 43 
Cutters— 80ft. Class— Start, 1:10. 
August Belmont 3 59 39 2 49 39 
C. Vanderbilt 4 04 12 2 54 12 
W. K. Vanderbilt 4 02 47 2 52 47 . 
Schooners— 75ft. Class— Start, 1:15. 
Gould Brokaw 4 18 .33 3 03 33 
F. Lippitt 4 25 08 3 10 08 
Special Race— Cutters— Start, 1 :20. 
C. V. Brokaw 4 30 52 3 10 52 
'Redmond .,...4 45 20 3 35 20 
Cutters— 43ft. Class— Start, 1:20. 
Nautilus, John J. McCue Not timed. 
Yawls--i3ft. Class— Start, 1:25. 
Albicore, S. T. Hyde 4 15 19 2 SO 19 
Sultan, C. S." Somerville .4 37 25 3 12 25 
Special 30-ft. Class— Start, 1:30. 
Esperanza, H. O. Havemeyer, Jr.. 4 09 20 2 39 20 
Wawa, R. Brooks 4 12 32 2 42 32 
Hera, R. N. Ellis 4 13 41 2 43 41 
Veda, Robert Bacon 4 14 56 2 44 56 
Mai, F. R. Brewster.... 4 23 00 2 53 00 
Pollywog, A. H. Paget 4 22 41 2 52 41 
Sloops— 25ft. Class— Start, 1:30. 
RocheMe Edward Kelly 3 48 19 2 18 19 
Louise, W. B. .\rnold.. 4 25 33 2 55 33 
Scintilla, John R. Hoyt Withdrew. 
V igilant, Com. 
Mineola, 
Rainbow, 
Virginia; 
Amorita, W. 
Quissetta, H. 
Oueen Mabj 
Syce, H. S. " 
Corrected. 
2 52 43 
2 49 39 
2 54 12 
3 52' 47 
3 03 33 
3 09 43 
3 10 52 
3 26.57 
2 50 19 
3 07 40 
2 39 20 
2 42 32 
2 43 41 
2 44 56 
2 53 00 
2 52 11 
2 18 19 
2 55 33 
35. 
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2 
2 
2 
2 
2 
2 
5 
2 30 27 
32 26 
34 36 
34 40 
34 41 
35 13 
43 58 
48 10 
Cats— 25ft. Class— Start, 
Win or Lose, J. S. Appleby 4 25 27 
Raceabout Class^ — Start, 
Sis, F. T. Bradford, Jr .......4 12 26 
Colleen, L. R. Alberger 4 14 36 
Persimmon, D. H. Warner 4 14 40 
Snapper, H. L. Maxwell 4 14 41 
Raider, H. M. Crane 4 15 13 
Kittie, H. Morse 4 23 5S 
Scamp, J. De Forest 4 28 10 
Spindrift, Pirie Brothers ...Disabled 
Cats— 21ft. Class— Start, : 
Mongoose II., Simeon Ford 3 32 02 
Kazaza, T. J. McCahill, Jr 3 33 44 
Catspaw, E. L. Tinker 3 43 42 
Kildare, T. E. McTntyre ^^215 
Arline, A. E. Rendle 3 58 16 
Gosbird, R. H. Nevuis., 1,^* ^ 
Vera, A. M. Bradley. w Not timed. 
Cats-.18ft. Class— Start, l-.m. 
bouncer, A. D. Tappen 4 14 11 2 
Weewin, F. Sherwood Capsized. 
Sis was protested as not having the freeboard required 
by the Sound "Y. R. A. rules. The winners were Mineola. 
Amorita. Queen Mab, Albicore, Esperanza, Rochelle, Sis 
50. 
1 
1 
1 
2 
2 
60 27 
32 26 
34 36 
34 40 
34 41 
35 13 
43 58 
48 10 
42 02 
43 44 
53 42 
00 15 
08 16 
24 15 
2411 
1 42 02 
1 43 44 
1 53 42 
2 00 15 
2 08 16 
2 24 15 
2 24 11 
