Dec. 29, looo-I 
n the northern and western parts of the Province he 
lad not thought it possible that the animals could be in the 
normous numbers in which they were there found. He 
efctred particularly to the country about Nipissing and 
rcinagama, and the Height of Land. It was a country 
which was not inhabited, and unless minerals were 
found, it never would be. He did not think that moose 
should be shot imder three years of age, as it was the 
smallest head that was worth having. He likewise thought 
tiat one man should be limited to one moose. 
Mr. Cormier was of opinion that if the winter was mild, 
moose would retain tlieir antlers nearly up to March, but 
if the winter was very cold they would shed them earlier. 
Mr. Ussher iiiDT?ed : "That the open season for moose 
shall generally be irom Sept, 15 to Nov. 30, inclusive, but 
ftat for certain sections of Provinces or States where 
moose are decreasing, it may be desirable to make partial 
or entirely closed seasons." 
Mr. Smith thought they coTiId hardly consider the close 
season for an animal like the moose without also con- 
sidering that for caribou and red deer. If the seasons did 
not run concurrently, men would be going out to shoot 
one kind of animal, and if they came across another, they 
would shoot it. • I * 
Mr. Joncas observed that in the eastetTft part of Quebec 
the open season was from Sept. I to Jan.. 1, which he 
thought was too long. 
Mr] Fiske did not think that the pot-hunter was so much- 
to blame for the slaughter of big game as the lumbermen, 
who thus provided his camp with meat for the whole win- 
ter. Something should be done to make him suffer. 
Concerning Caribou. 
The motion was then adopted, after which Mr, Cormier 
remarked that in. zone No, 2, Quebec, he thought the 
cariboti7§'easQn should be ctit a little; it extended from 
Sept.. I to Mari;h i. • ■ . 
^ My. Jontas said that zone No. 2 comprised,' .a' district 
where the people lived mostly by hunting, and the season 
llad therefore been made longer. 
Mr. MacCuUum— ''§till, that does not prdvpnt outsiders 
doming In." ' ' ■ . ■ . 
Mr. Johc'as — "No; but there is no communication.; it is 
the Labrador district." 
Mr. Smith thought that there were districts where the 
cai'.ibou -season would have to be extended, and he moved: 
"Til at it is the sense of this committee that it is desirable 
4|iat the open season for caribou should be, if possible, con- 
ciirrent as to dates with that for moose; but as it is recog- 
nized that in northern districts a longer season may. be 
desirable, we recommend that great care be observed in 
the matter of extending the caribou season beyond that 
for moose." 
Mr. Joncas, while personally favoring the resolution, 
was afraid that it would not carry in the Quebec Legisla- 
ture. 
The motion was then agreed to, as was also the fol- 
loAving, proposed by Mr. Ussher, seconded by Mr. Smith : 
"That the open season for red deer should be concurrent 
I yv-ith tiiot for moo.se: b"t that in di.strirts where red deer 
are few in number it is desirable that the open season 
be further restricted." 
Mr. Cormier spoke of limiting the number of animals 
to be killed by one hunter, and moved : "That the num- 
ber of moose, caribou and deer killed by one hunter dur- 
ing a single season be limited to one moose, one caribou 
and two deer." 
This was seconded by Dr. Drummond and adopted. 
Game Bi/ds. 
The question of the spring shooting of game birds was 
then taken up, and it was moved by Mr. MacCullum, sec- 
onded by Mr. Wilson: "That it is the sense of this com- 
mittee, and we so recommend, that spring shooting, or 
the killing of game birds in spring, be abolished, and that 
the open season be from Sept. 15 to Dec. 31, inclusive." 
Mr. Wilson was anxious that this resolution should be 
placed upon the minutes of the meeting, as they had spring 
shooting in New York, to their disgrace. He had letters 
' from presidents and secretaries of sportsmen's associations 
in the State of New York, in which it was stated that if 
spring shooting could be done away with the birds would 
start and nest on territory over which the writers had 
^ oversight. The president of the Jelferson County Asso- 
ciation made the statement that where they had had a 
local law the birds that had been driven away with an 
open season had come back and were making their nests 
there. The State of New York was the transgressor in 
tJiis matter, because the other States did not allow anv 
spring shooting, and for the good of the State of New 
York he asked that the resolution be passed. 
The motion was agreed to. - 
The following was also adopted, without discussion, on 
the motion of Mr. Wilson: "That it is the sense of this 
committee, and they so recommend, that the pursuing of 
moose, caribou and deer with dogs be prohibited." 
On the motion of Mr. Cormier, seconded by Dr. Mac- 
Cullum. it was recommended: "That the open season be 
from Sept. 15 to Dec. 15, on Canada grouse, spruce 
grouse, wood grouse, swamp partridge, black grouse, 
ruffed grouse and partridge." 
Second Day. 
At the morning session, Hon. A. T. Dunn in the chair. 
a resolution of the previous afternoon regarding the open 
season for grouse and partridge, was divided into the tAvo 
following motions, proposed by Dr. MacCullum and sec- 
onded by Mr. Cormier, which were adopted : 
"That the open season be from Sept. 15 to Dec. 15 for all 
species of grouse, with the exception of ptarmigan/" 
"That this committee suggest that the'general open sea- 
son for woo(3cock, snipe and duck of all kinds, including 
swans and geese, rail, plover and other birds, known a^ 
shore birds or waders, shaU be between the 15th day of 
September and the 15th day of December." 
It was moved by Mr. Bramble; "That, whereas, 
M'olves are very numerous in many parts of Quebec and 
Ontario, and also sufficiently numerous in New Bruns- 
wick, tq be a detriment to the game supply, that this As- 
sociation is impressed with the necessity of e^ch Province 
^ving a bounty sufficient to in§«re the trapping of these 
FOREST AND STREAM. 
pests, and, moreover, that the minimum amount of such 
bounty be $15 a head." 
This was seconded by Dr. Cormier and agreed to.^ 
On. the motion of Mr. Ussher, it was resolved; "That 
the pursuing, shooting or killing of any of the anuna's or 
birds 'specified in the resolutions preceding be entirely 
proh'bited at all o her times than those specified m the 
resolutions relating to such aninaals or birds, respectively. ' 
It was moved by Dr. MacCallura: "That this commit- 
tee is of the opinion, and wishes to suggest in the most 
urgent mannff, that the tag and coupon syslem in use 
in Ontario and Michigan be adopted by all the Provmces 
and States interested." 
This was seconded by Mr. Bramble and concurred in. 
The committee adjourned shortly before i o'clock, th^. 
members accepting the invitation of the chairman .ip 
luncheon at the Place Viger Hotel. 
The Afternoon Session, 
The first business of the afternoon was the adopting 
of the following resolution, on the motion of Mr. Sniith, 
seconded by Mr. Seymour: "That this committee rec- 
ommends that the possession, sale or exportation of all 
game bii'ds or animals shall be prohibited aiter the expiry 
of nfteen days alter the close of the open season for the 
birds or animals, as the case may be, in each State or 
Province airthorizing the killing or capture of same in 
such State or Province." 
On the motion of Mr. Titcomb, seconded by Di:. ISIac- 
Cullum, the committee passed a resolution felicitating 
the Hon. Mr. Parent, President of the Association, on 
tlfe well deserved, honors that had fallen to him in the 
premiership of the Province. 
The following motion regarding the exportation of 
speckled trout was adopted on the motion of Dr. Drum- 
mond, seconded by Mr. Wilson: "That the exportation 
of speckled or brook trotit be totally prohibited, saVe 
with the exception of fish caught by any tourist or sutn- 
mer visitor, the total weight of such fish not to exce^l 
30 pound, net, and limited to the lawful catch of two 
days' angling." , v-i 
Mr. Wilson brought forward a resolution having r:^- 
erence to black bass, and in doing so he said that if ;tKey 
black bass in the St. Lawrence were protected as the 
ought to be until after the spawning season, there vvould 
be no need for the Anglers' Association to apply, as-tfifey 
had done, to the New York State Association for a 
million bass. The latter Association had refused to sup- 
ply a single bass until the close season was made Ito 
fully cover the spawning period. His resolution waSvto 
the effect that in all the waters dividing the States-Snd 
Provinces, the open season on black bass shall be fiBm 
July I to Jan. i. ^1 
This was adopted. 
On the motion of Dr. MacCullum. seconded by IvTr. 
Seymour, it was decided to request the President ofithe 
Association to communicate with the governments.;!' of 
the various bordering States and Provinces and iiivite 
each to send one or more representatives to the . n^xt 
annual meeting of the Association. 
Mr. Cormier brought forward the question of .the 
beaver, and it was agreed that it was desirable that all 
Provinces and States extend the close season on this 
animal until the year 1905. 
Mr. Ussher moved, and it was adopted; "That this 
committee approves of the Maine licensed guide system, 
and recommends the general adoption of it, or some 
modification of the same, which shall be suited to the 
wants of each State or Province." ' . 3,^- 
The question of licensing market men, game "dgalers, 
etc., then came up, and on the motion of Mr. Ussher, 
the following was concurred in; — "Whereas this Com- 
mittee believes that excellent results are obtained from 
the operation of the Maine State law with reference to 
the market men. etc.. both from the standpoint of game 
protection and for statistical purposes, therefore be it 
resolved we are in favor of a system by which the market 
men, game dealers, sellers and tanners of deer, moose 
and caribou skins, and proprietors of hunting camps, 
shall, if it can be legally so arranged in any State or 
Province, be duly licensed by the chief game authorities 
of the said Province, and shall report periodically there- 
to." 
Witli regard to insectivorous birds, it was resolved, on 
the motion of Dr. MacCullum, to urge the Association 
to adopt a permanent protective law against the destruc- 
tion of all insectivorous and other birds useful to agri- 
culture. 
The following was adopted, on the motion of Mr. 
Ussher, seconded by Mr, Wilson: "That this Committee 
recommend that every State and. Province should adopt 
laws limiting the number of game birds that may be 
killed by each hunter per day, and the number, weight 
and size of game fish which may be caught per day by 
each angler." 
The meeting closed with a hearty vote of thanks to 
I he Chairman, and subsequently the members of the 
committee were entertained at dinner by Mr. loncas at 
the Place Viger Hotel. 
A "Welcome Note from Kelpie. 
AV.A.L0N, Santa Catalina Island, Cal.. Dec. ir.— A 
tnerry Christmas to you. O Forest and Stre.am, and all 
j-our friends. 
For a long time I have been practically unable to use 
my e3^es for reading or writing, though they have served 
me fairly well for out-of-door work, and so it is that, as I 
said to you some time ago, I have been unable to keep 
in touch with the old paper, though I have known it for 
more than a quarter of a century, and it has always been 
my faA'orite. 
I hope before long to be able to give your readers some 
account of mv camps and cruises among the islands of this 
region. This is a very pleasant morning — the trees and 
hillsides are green, and the sun shines brightly, with the 
mercury about 70 degrees in the house. 
I have been sitting on the veranda, which commands a 
wide sea view._ Across the channel is the coast line, more 
than tw^enty miles away, but looking less than ten. Above 
it looms the huge bulk of Saddleback and San Jacinto, 
and over their mighty shoulders gleam the white peaks Qf 
the San Berpardir\o t^X)^, a hi^ndrji miles aw^v. 
I Avill close for this time, with an account of a con- 
ver.-:ation whrch 'occurred at Minner between an artist 
friend of mine and a comparative stranger, premising, 
however, that among the burros employed on thiia island 
the, older and wiser of .hern is called John. 
The conversation had turned on literary matters, ajvidi 
the stranger asked the lady if she liked Burroughs. 
"Oh, yes," said she, "and I really think that a catPpr- 
ing partj' isn't complete without them." 
With a somewhat mystified look, he replied after a> 
little hesitation, 'T mean John." 
"Whv certainly," replied the lady. "John is the best of 
the whole lot." 
The gentleman said no more, and at the close of the 
meal they separated, but a while afterward an idea sud- 
denly came to the lady, and turning to her mother she 
remarked, "I do believe that gentleman meant Jolm 
Burroughs." Kelpie. 
After Wild Sheep in tlie Altai and Mongolia* 
A COSTLY and beautiful book just publi^be^ by Row- 
land Ward, of London, will appeal strongly to, many 
big-game hunters in America. It is by the F.rincc oi 
San Donato, author of "LIunting Trips in the Caucasus," 
and treats of an expedition after wild sheep in. theV Altai 
and Mongolia. . 
The hunting trip, which lasted only from May <o 
September, coA^ered the wild country lying between Mon- 
golia and Sungaria, and drained chiefly by the Rivers Oh 
and Irtish, a region of great elevation and sparsely in- 
habited by a few Kalmuks. The great .game consists^ 
chiefly of the ibex and the great sheep Ovts amnion, witb 
a. few Maral deer, a form related to the red deer of 
Europe. It is a country of late springs and early falls, 
with many lakes on which wild fowl are found and not a 
few streams where trout and grayling were taken. Prince 
Demidoff's partj'^ consisted of . himself and wife and Mr. 
Littledale and wife, and, of course, after they had reached 
the termination of ordinary roads the saddle and the pack 
pony were the only means of travel. The bunting was; 
done almost entirely on foot. Only males, and as a 
rule those with -large heads, were shot at. but 3 large 
number of these were killed as well as a little smaller 
game. The largest ram killed was taken by Mr. Littledale, 
and measured 63 inches along the curve of the horn, witin 
a girth of \g}4 inches and a measurement of 41^/2 inches; 
between the tips; a nfbnstrous head. Ovis ainmon is 
•one of the greatest of wild sheep, and is thought by softaie; 
to be the form from which other species liave sprung. 
Prince Demidoff''s narrative is told with spirit. Hej 
is evidently a hard worker, and deserved the great stic- 
cess that he had. The author's comments on the coun- 
try, itsi game, and on the effect of the small-boi;e rifle are 
cxtremelj'' interesting. ' ' ' •' ' 
As already said, the volume' fs' 5ne of great beairty. It 
contains eightj'-two illustrations, a colored frontispiece 
of the great sheep which Prince Demidoff went after, and 
also a map on which his route is set down. W'e fancy 
there are few big-game hunters who have climbed the 
Rocky Mountains after big-horn who would not have en- 
.ioyed a trip such as is here well described. 
Deer on the Missoori River. 
' ■ • -4 . 
Lodge Pole, Mont., Nov. 27. — Editor Forest iT'd 
Stream: I got back from the Missouri River yesterday. 
I had a very hard time in killing four deer — three white- 
tails and one blacktail — having to kill them on the run .; 
and a whitetail jumping over the large sage brush is a. 
very hard target for me to hit. I saw perhaps fifty or 
sixty whitetails and six blacktails. 
I .'^aw no breeds hunting on the river this. fall, which 
accounts for the whitetail being so plentiful down there. 
The weather was cold, closing up the river two nights 
after I got there, so I could cross over wi h my team 
and could hunt on both sides of the river. The bottoms 
were tracked up so that it was impossible to follow a 
track. I saw a great lot of blacktail sign up one creek, but 
did not hunt them any, as it is a ver}' hard country to 
pack deer out of. 
I also saw considerable antelope sign out from the 
river seven or eight miles on both sides. I expect it will 
take me two or three weeks to pick the briers out of my- 
self. The points and small islands were full of them, and 
I had to hunt through them to start the deer out. I think 
that there are some of the smartest deer down there I 
ever saw— especially the old does. I nearly walked on 
top of a number of ojd does, and by the time I got my 
gun up to my shoulder T would perhaps get a look at their 
tails going out of sight in the brush. W, J. A. 
Maine Guides. 
Editor Forest attd Stream: 
I notice in this week's copy of Forest and Stream 
Special's article concerning a liigher license fee being 
imposed on guides in Maine. Nothing could be bette'r 
for the guides than .this, as it would make the inferior 
class of guides hesitate about paying a larger amount 
for their license and thus weed them out from among the 
better class. Inferior guides can be, and are, very often 
employed by sportsmen, and it is very unfortunate'lor the 
latter when he finds the mistakes 'he made and very 
often spoils a whole trip. Some guides ou.ght never to 
get $3 per day. as they do not know how to earn it, 
and I would like to see a line drawn between the guides 
of Maine and let' those who, by their experience, have 
proven themselves to be competent guides get then 
$3 and inferior ones be paid accordingly. 
Your correspondent also touches on, the question of a 
guide being punished for killing deer for hunters, let 
alone now and then a fnoose. This practice has been 
kept up year in and year out and it would be a great 
thing if it could be broken up. I cannot see how a 
man (he is not a hunter) can take a long, expensive 
trip and then let his guide go and kill his deer or moose, 
and yet th?? is done every year. Snowshoe. 
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