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The general discussion at this meeting,-i the report of its subcommittee, 
and the subsequent report by Dr. George Burch (as committee chairman) to the 
Heart Council, represent a struggle of conflicting ideas as to the nature 
of the colony to be developed. These also brought out some interesting in- 
formation as well as policy issues in an early stage of formation. 
At this meeting^, the following issues were raised: (a) whether or not the 
proposed monkey colony should constitute a cardiovascular research colony 
or more broadly a general primate research colony, and (b) whether it should 
be primarily for research, for breeding and supplying monkeys to researchers 
in the United States, or for both. In general, committee members favored 
unrestricted primate research but were interested in working closely with 
the Heart Institute to bring the national primate colony into being. The 
committee members remembered that the earlier proposals for national 
primate research facilities made by the Committee on Radiation Studies to 
the National Advisory Councils had gotten nowhere. Dr. Watt emphasized that, 
if the a^ hoc committee wanted the Heart Institute and the Heart Council to 
move effectively to bring the proposed colony into being, it would have to 
be focused in the categorical area of the Institute. This was admitted by 
the committee, for the members recognized that too many cooks spoil the 
broth. Although this particular question of cardiovascular versus general 
research arose at this meeting, it became a more critical issue at the next 
meeting of the committee. 
In regard to the question of the over-all purpose of the proposed colony. 
Dr. Watt pointed out that in order to receive the full support of the Heart 
Institute, it would have to be primarily a research facility and not simply 
a resource for the supply of monkeys. 
This meeting also pointed up the importance of establishing the contemplated 
colony as a long-term facility, for fifty or a hundred years. All agreed 
that to set up such a colony on a five to ten year basis would be shortsighted 
and inadvisable. 
Another principle brought out at this meeting was that such a primate research 
colony should have a "core group," that i-s, a group of scientists in residence, 
which would not include visiting scientists. The activities of this group 
would be supported by a basic budget "which would maintain the colony and pro- 
vide research opportunities for those who are responsible for the continued 
maintenance of the colony."— The amount of money needed for such a colony 
was considered to include "an initial investment of a $5 million initial 
appropriation with $100,000 annually for maintenance for each of fifty years 
years...."—' At the end of the meeting the chairman agreed to appoint a 
9/ September 25, 1957. 
10/ September 25, 1957. 
11 / From the minutes of the meeting. 
12 / At the second meeting of the Committee (February 10, 1958) it was pointed 
out that $100,000 was an unrealis tically low estimate. 
