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DISCUSSION 
CHAIRMAN Michael P. Kaye: Thank you 
Dr. Ross. This paper is now open for discussion. 
Gerald E. Bisgard, University of Wisconsin : 
Have you encountered problems v^ith metabolic 
acidosis in calves during or shortly after vs^ean- 
ing? Also, what is your weaning regimen as 
concerns age, speed, and diet? You mentioned 
alfalfa pellets. What else are they on? 
Dr. Ross : We wean the calves as soon as we 
get them. Most of our calves come directly off 
the range. When they're delivered at our pre- 
operative facility, they're immediately placed 
on a ration containing alfalfa pellets and grain. 
So they're weaned acutely. We have not meas- 
ured acid base balance in these animals. 
Dr. Bisgard : About how old are they? 
Dr. Ross: Three to four months. 
Jeff Peters, Salt Lake City: We took the 
suggestion of Garner, Amend, Rosborough 
and Hoff of Houston and decided to use the 
horse for implantation of the total artificial 
heart. We've done four of them, and in our 
experience the horse is an extremely strong 
animal after implantation and still presents 
problems in handling. 
Joel Cass, Veteran's Administration, Wash- 
ington, D.C. : As the television ad tells us, we've 
come a long way. You couldn't have given this 
kind of information at a dignified research pro- 
gram and been looked upon as a scientist of 
note just a very few years ago. Such informa- 
tion was left in the laboratory books and never 
referred to as part of a research program, al- 
though funds and a good bit of the time of our 
investigators have been spent in obtaining it. 
When we now publish this information, we 
show the design of the facility and the tech- 
niques that we actually used. However, we 
seldom make mention of the modifications we 
have made during the course of our actual 
work. So the next fellow reading the original 
design says "We better do it that way because 
he's had some wonderful results." It would be 
helpful if our published papers included the 
modifications, or at least alluded to, the prob- 
lems that the facilities and techniques have 
presented. 
Chairman; Do you have any remarks in 
closing? 
Dr. Ross : I think that Dr. Cass' remarks are 
well taken ; it is true that we have not had open 
discussions of the tricks of the trade. 
