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NEW HOME FOR MANHASSET BAY Y. C— FRONT ELEVATION AND FIRST AND SECOND FLOOR PLANS. 
"A large number of boats will be built if we adopt a 
class that would be popular for these waters. The com- 
mittee is required to report on Jan. 16, and your reply 
would, consequently, be highly appreciated. 
"Harry P. Simonton, 
"Secretary Columbia Y. C." 
The following was the answer sent by Small Bros. : 
"Mr. H. P. Simonton, Secretary of the Columbia Y. C, 
Chicago, 111. 
"Dear Sir : Your favor of Jan. 9 was duly received 
and contents carefully noted. In reply T would say that 
we take pleasure in complying with your request for 
our opinion on the relative merits of the cabin raceabouts 
and the 21ft. cabin boats built under the rules and restric- 
tions of the Yacht Racing Association of Massachusetts. 
"Point No. 1 we shall have to answer by saying that 
we consider the 21ft. cabin boat the more seaworthy, 
simply and only because of heavier scantlings and better 
construction, with less of strain. 
"Point No. 2 — The relative cost of cabin 21-footers is 
about 15 per cent, more than of raceabouts; and if the boat 
is an extreme keel type, the extra cost would be increased 
to 20 per cent. 
"Point No. 3 — The cabin 21-footers have much the betr 
ter cabin accommodations in every way. 
"Point No. 4 — In reference to speed, we consider that 
at present on an average the two are about equal, though 
some of last season's cabin 21-footers were faster than any 
of the raceabouts, excepting perhaps in a light air or drift 
with a sea; and the ones building for the coming sea- 
'son, we are very confident, will be quite a little faster 
than any of last season's boats. 
"Point No. 5 — A regular out-and-out freak cannot be 
built to advantage, under the rules of either class, but a 
designer has an equal chance in either type to get close to 
the scow model. 
"Point No. 6— It is rather difficult to say which class 
has proven the best all-round boat. Our opinion is that, 
owing to the ease of handling, the raceabout is a little 
the better for afternoon sailing, though not quite so com- 
fortable as the other, owing to limited space and a quicker 
and greater angle of keel. For cruising and general all- 
round work, we favor the 21ft. cabin yacht. 
"Point No. 7 — On this point we are not clear as to your 
exact meaning. If you mean what class would be more 
quickly and easily established from second-hand material, 
we should say the raceabout. But the cabin class, in our 
opinion, is easier and better to develop, for the reason 
that the raceabout has practically reached the limit of 
development under present rules. Considering your 
weather and cruising conditions, we should favor the 
cabin class. 
"The Yacht Racing Association of Massachusetts at its 
last meeting voted to slightly increase the sail limit in 
its restricted classes, which evidently proves that the 
boats built were capable of handling their sail area all 
right. Probably your weather conditions are different 
from ours, and you generally have stronger winds on the 
lake than we do here, but as boats in the 21ft. cabin 
class can be built under a sliding scale, you can produce 
any style of yacht to suit your conditions, either center- 
boards or keels. 
"Perhaps it would not be out of place for us to say 
here that if the scantling scale could be changed and in- 
creased to secure good construction, and a little attention 
given to cabin accommodations, the raceabout would be 
an ideal yacht and as popular as ever. As it is, we do not 
hear of a single one being built for Boston parties ; while 
on the other hand, fourteen of the 21ft. cabin yachts are 
under construction for the coming season. 
"In our capacity as official measurers of the Yacht 
Racing Association of Massachusetts, we have had ample 
opportunity to judge, and the experience of knowing the 
relative merits of all the racing boats under various con- 
ditions of wind and water, and our judgment is still 
slightly in favor of the 21ft. cabin yacht, built under the 
Association's rules, as against the cabin raceabout. Sin- 
cerely yours, . ' "Small Bros." 
Another piece of news has made the Association men 
feel good, and that is to the effect that at the annual meet- 
ting of the Quincy Y. C. Saturday evening it will be pro- 
posed that the club join the Association. The Quincy 
Y. C. withdraw from the Association two years ago be- 
cause of an alleged grievance on account of protest deci- 
sions by the Executive Committee of the Y. R. A., and 
there are many who believe that there was foundation for 
such grievance. However, the motion to secede from the 
Association was not unanimous, and it is not expected 
that the vote to return, if carried, will be unanimous 
either ; but there is no doubt that if the club should go 
back, it will be welcome news to the majority of racing 
men. The Quincy Y. C. has never had a fleet of large 
yachts, but it has always been known as one of the 
strongest racing clubs in the entire bay in classes up to 
30ft. waterline, and it has always given a series of open 
races during each season. Every one will be pleased to 
see it doing business again at the same old stand. 
Crowninshield has an order for an 18-footer, Knock- 
about Association restrictions, for Richard D. Boardman, 
of the Manchester Y. C, to be built by White, of Man- 
chester. She will be raced at Boston, Hull, Marblehead 
and Manchester. Mr. Boardman is a good helmsman, and 
the boat may be looked for among this season's race 
winners. 
At Lawley's the keel of the Lawson 46-footer and that 
of a 25-footer are set up. The keel has been turned out 
for a 30ft. yawl for Messrs. Foss and Gunnison. Two 
of Benney's designs are being laid down — a 46ft. and a 
33ft. yawl. Most of the frames of the Lippitt 60-rater 
have been bent. The 30ft. yawl for Bancroft C. Davis has 
been completed. The 104ft. steam yacht is planked, and 
her deck is being laid. Fred Lawley has just completed 
the lines of a 25-footer, and has sent the lines of a 35- 
footer to Mr. Richard Korte, of Philadelphia. 
John B. Killeen. 
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New Home for the Manhasset 
Bay Y. G 
Mr. Edward M. McClellan, Secretary of the Manhas- 
set Y. C, has kindly sent to us for reproduction in 
this issue, the front elevation and first and second floor 
plans of the new home for the Manhasset Bay Y. C, at 
Port Washington, L. I. The club's membership had 
increased to such an extent during the last two years 
that the organization had quite outgrown the old club 
house, and the needs of a new building were very urgent. 
The club has an ideal location, being situated on a beau- 
tifully sheltered bay, and still within easy reach of the 
city. The Manhasset Bay Y. C. is the outlet for many of 
the people who live a short distance inland, and who 
wish to go on the water occasionally. When the new 
club house is completed, the Manhasset Bay Y. C. will 
not be second to any club on Long Island Sound, either 
in its strength as a yachting organization or its location 
or its completeness in regard to its house, grounds, docks, 
etc. 
Some $30,000 will be spent in building the new house 
and stable, improving the grounds and erecting a new 
dock. The house itself will represent an expenditure of 
about $12,000 when completed. Messrs. Hoppin & Koen, 
the architects, have succeeded in producing an ideal club 
house, which is not only well arranged inside, but one 
that has a most attractive exterior of colonial design. 
The house has been kept well up from the ground in 
order to make the basement rooms light and dry. The 
building is two stories high. On each corner of the 
structure are pilasters, which extend up two stories and 
support the cornice. The sloping roof is surmounted by 
several dormer windows. The feature of the facade is 
made by a Palladian window on the second story, and 
above this just under the pediment is the club's insignia. 
A piazza 12ft. wide extends around three sides of the 
building, which faces the northwest. On the east side is 
located the porte-cochere. 
On entering the house one steps into a two-story hall 
22 by 34ft., which will be used as sort of lounging room. 
Directly opposite the entrance is a large brick fireplace, 
behind which is a circular staircase. Just to the left 
of the staircase is the office. Opening from the east 
side of the lounging room h the ladies' room, 17 by 22ft. 
French windows extend to the floor, and on the east wall 
is a fireplace. A ladies' toilet room adjoins. A passage 
connects the ladies' room with the pantry. On the west 
side of the lounging room is the cafe, a room which cor- 
responds in size and arrangement with the ladies' room, 
which is directly opposite. The kitchen is located in a 
wing well away from the main structure, and only con- 
nected by a glass-inclosed pantry. In this way all odors 
of cooking will be avoided in the club house proper. A 
staircase leads from the kitchen down to a large storeroom 
in the basement. The kitchen has windows on three sides, 
and is very well ventilated, and while almost wholly and 
distinctly apart from the main building, still it is ver& easy 
