FOREST AND STREAM. 
St. Lawrence Boat Co. at Ogdensbury, N. Y. All three 
of the boats are of mahogany. 
Meteor will be in command of Messrs. Ben and iJan 
Parker, the well-known English yacht skippers. Their 
crew will be made up of twenty men, taken from the 
Emperor's racing yawl Meteor. 
Our Boston Letter. 
Boston, March 3.— Boston is to send another boat to 
compete in the trial races of the Bridgeport Y C. to select 
a challenger for the Seawanhaka cup. This boat will be 
owned and raced by a syndicate of Boston yachtsmen. 
She will be built by some Massachusetts man. the de- 
signer of the new candidate is W- Starling Burgess. She 
will be of the usual scow type which is employed in races 
for this cup. Her dimensions have not yet been fully 
decided upon, but it is very likely that her overhangs will 
not be abnormally long. Burgess is one of the youngest 
designers in the business, and it will mean much to him 
if he is successful in this latest venture. He has started 
in the business at a time when skimming dish racers are 
not so prevalent as they were ten or fifteen years ago. 
He is however, a great student and has much valuable 
data which will help him out. Although he has not had 
a chance at the Seawanhaka cup before, or even the 
Quincy cup, this will not be his first venture m the line 
of turning out a "sled." Last year he turned out a 15ft. 
scow with extreme overhangs, which got the best ot 
everything she went up against. He has turned out an- 
other of the same type this winter, which he expects to 
be much faster. But the conditions governing the con- 
struction of boats to compete for the Seawanhaka cup 
are so peculiar that the designing of boats which will 
prove winners is one of the hardest, yacht designing nuts 
to crack that has yet confronted the talent They are 
quite a little different from the usual scow boat of the 
East, and the designer has to govern himself accordingly. 
Burgess will carefully study his subject before he draws 
a line, and when he gets all the information he wants 
there is no doubt that he will turn out a fast one. ; 
The Boston Y. C. is another of the early birds in get- 
ting ready its racing programme for the coming season, 
and this year it has a very fine one. The programme, as 
arranged so far, was announced by the regatta committee 
last week. The first event will be a club cruise. As June 
17, Bunker Hill day, falls on Tuesday, an opportunity is 
offered for a cruise of four days and the regatta com- 
mittee was quick to perceive its value. By this means 
the boats of the club, new and old, will be gathered to- 
gether sooner and the club will benefit by it. The last 
run on this cruise will be from Marblehead to Hull, on 
Tune 17, where the racing boats of the fleet will enter 
the Y. R. A. open races of the Hull-Massachusetts Y. C. 
The establishment of a station at Marblehead is already 
proving to be valuable to the club. Since the annual 
meeting many candidates have been proposed for mem- 
bership, most of whom are boat owners. This club will 
show an enrollment of more Y. R. A. boats at the open- 
ing of the season than any other club m Massachusetts 
Bay. The following is the programme so far arranged 
by the regatta committee for the coming season : 
June 14, Saturday. — Beginning of club cruise; racing 
run, Marblehead, City Point to Marblehead. 
June 15, Sunday.— Racing run, Marblehead to GIou- 
cester. 
' June 16, Monday.— Racing run,- Gloucester to Marble- 
June 17, Tuesday— Racing run, Marblehead to Hull. 
June 28, Saturday.— Y. R. A. open, City Point. 
July 28, Monday.— Y. R. A. open, Marblehead. 
July, 29, Tuesday.— Y. R. A. open, Marblehead. 
Sept. 6, Saturday.— Club races for cups presented by 
Com. B. P. Cheney. - v 
At a special meeting of the Beverly Y. C, held at the 
office of Com. Geo. H. Richards, last Wednesday, it was 
voted to abolish time allowance in the regular races of 
the club, including championship races. In all other 
events the matter of time allowance is left to the discre- 
tion of the regatta committee. This action was not unex- 
pected, and, as a matter of fact, the regular classes of the 
club have been racing without time allowance for some 
time. This is a feature which is growing stronger in 
Massachusetts Bay, and it now seems only a matter of 
time when all of the racing classes will race without time 
allowance. At the time that the Yacht Racing Associa- 
tion of Massachusetts formed the present restricted 
classes and abolished time allowance, there were many 
who objected very strongly, but it has turned out that 
the officers of the association who drew up the rules were 
looking well ahead and had foreseen that racing boats 
up to the waterline limits of the various classes, without 
time allowance, would sooner or later be the rule. The 
Corinthian Y. C., which has been opposed to the associa- 
tion, has been racing its classes without time allowance, 
except where handicap classes were provided; and it is 
likely that it will continue this feature in connection with 
the Y. R. A. 25ft. and 21ft. classes, and the 18ft. knock- 
abouts, which it has adopted. 
The work of plating is progressing at Lawley's on the 
bronze 60-rater, designed by Gardner and Cox for Mr. 
H. F. Lippitt. The east shop is full of boats in various 
stages of construction, and the west shop will be filled 
before the season opens. 
Crosby, of Osterville, has built a 21ft. cat for Mr. 
Alfred McKessen, of Woods Hole; a 17ft. cat for Dr. 
Gorham Bacon; a 23ft. cat for E. W. Swett, of Boston ; 
a 21ft. knockabout and a 24ft. knockabout for Mr. George 
W. Brown, of Boston. 
Howard Linnell, of Savin Hill, is building two 18ft. 
knockabouts, one for C. C. Clapp, designed by Fred 
Lawley, and the other for Goodspeed Bros., designed by 
Crowninshield. He is also at work on the Y. R. A. 21- 
footer designed by Jefferson Borden for J. E. Robinson, 
of the Savin Hill Y. C. He has built a 19ft. auxiliary 
cat for N. Silsbee, Jr., which will carry a three horse- 
power motor. He has built two 18ft. gasoline launches, 
and another will soon be set up. Repairs have been made 
on the yachts Marguerite and Wideawake. There are 
about 60 boats hauled out in the yard. 
Jensen, at the Cape Ann yacht yard, is to build a 21- 
footer for Mr. George R. Peare, of the Columbia Y. C„ 
of Chicago. She will race in the M. R. Y. A. class that 
has been recently adopted on Lake Michigan. Jensen 
designed this boat. He has nearly completed the Y. R. 
A. 21 -footer designed by Crowninshield for Richard 
Hutchinson, of Boston. John B. Khxeen. 
Another Race Between Shamrock JX and 
Columbia ? 
Mr. C V. Post, of Battle Creek, Mich., sent the follow- 
ing letter to Sir Thomas Lipton: 
Fifth Avenue Hotel, Madison Square, New York, Jan. 
31, 1902.— Sir Thomas Lipton, London, England. Dear 
Sir: A feeling exists in America that the barrier which 
prevents the removal of the yacht Cup is to be found in 
the Yankee yachtsman, and not in the yacht itself. 
To demonstrate the facts, I beg to place before you the 
following proposition: I will charter Shamrock II. (if 
it meets with your wishes), paying therefor $10,000, or 
such sum as is a proper charter price for the yacht in 
condition, and man her with an American crew, you to 
man Columbia with a crew from Great Britain, and dur- 
ing the coming season test the relative merits of the men 
under these changed conditions, the final details subject 
to careful consideration and approval. I will provide a 
suitable cup to be contested for, and hereafter known as 
the Yachtsman's cup. 
With renewed assurances of the high esteem in which 
you are held by all Americans, I beg to subscribe myself, 
very respectfully, C. V. Post. 
Sir Thomas Lipton' s reply, dated Feb. 18, is as follows: 
My Dear Sir : I have to acknowledge receipt of your 
letter of the 31st. ult., conveying your offer to charter. 
Shamrock II. for $10,000 during the coming season, and 
to give a presentation cup for competition by Shamrock 
II. and Columbia, Shamrock II. to be manned by an 
American^ skipper and crew, and Columbia to be manned 
by a British skipper and crew provided by myself. 
In the first place, I do not know whether or not Co- 
lumbia will be in commission this season, but if so, it 
would, in my opinion, be a far better test to race Sham- 
rock II. against Columbia with the latter vessel's own 
skipper and crew of Americans, and if you ,wish to do 
this, I will not accept a charter of Shamrock II.. as you so 
kindly offer, but I will let you have the use of her during 
the coming season without charge, on condition that you 
fit her out in racing trim and pay all expenses for the 
racing season. 
I do not wish to discourage you, but I feel certain that 
Columbia would lick you. I am yours faithfully, 
Thomas J. Lipton. 
Mr. Post has signified his willingness > to send a repre- 
sentative to London to arrange the details of such a race 
as mentioned in the letters. 
It is doubtful if Mr. J. P. Morgan, the owner of Co- 
lumbia, would consent to the boat being raced under any 
such arrangement. Capt. Charlie Barr has already been 
engaged by Mr. August Belmont to sail Mineola next 
season, so that it is not probable that his services .could 
be secured. >. > 
The Handling: of Algonquin in the Seawanhaka 
Trial Races in 1 899. 
In our last issue a statement was made to the effect 
that Algonquin, the boat representing the Bridgeport Y. C. 
,at the Seawanhaka trial races at Oyster Bay, in 1899, did 
not win out on account of being -poorly handled. 
Mr. Thomas H. Macdonald, the owner of the boat, has 
kindly called our attention to the fact that this was in- 
correct. We find in looking further into the matter, 
that the reason the boat did not do better was owing to 
her poor windward qualities, and not to poor handling. 
We are very glad to state the facts as they existed, because 
of the general impression that the boat lost on account 
of bad management. In justice to Mr. Herbert Jennings, 
her helmsman, who is rated as one of the cleverest ama- 
teurs on the Sound, it should be said that he certainly 
got the best there was out of her. 
While Algonquin was strong in reaching and running, 
she was so deficient in windward qualities that what she 
gained over Constance with started sheets she soon lost 
when hauled on the wind. 
Western" Yachts. 
Milwaukee Accepts Chicago Y. C. Invitation. 
Chicago, 111., March 1.— Milwaukee Y. C. yesterday 
accepted the invitation to join Chicago Y. C. at its annual 
regatta, July 4, and it is announced that at least ten 
boats will come down from the Cream City to meet the 
Chicago fleet on the national day. This group will be 
headed by Com. Vilas' Thistle. The invitation of Chicago 
Y. C. was accepted by the Milwaukee boys just in time 
to shut out the invitation of the Columbia Y. C, ex- 
tended for the same regatta date. 
Seawanhaka Cup Challenger. 
The rumor, not an unusual one, by the way, comes up 
again this year that a Western boat will appear at Bridge- 
port in the Seawanhaka trials. Jones and Laborde, of 
Oshkosh. are reported to be designing a challenger, and 
there is a deep, dark and mysterious hint out to the 
effect that yet another boat will go from Chicago. In 
point of view of earlier rumors of this sort, it is safest to 
say in regard to the present one that we shall see what 
we shall see. 
Chicago Y. C. Type. 
Chicago Y. C. 'is to have a boat after its own design. 
Messrs. John B. Berriman and Ed. Rosing are at work 
on a design for a 25-footer fin-keel. It is said that six 
of these boats will be built this spring. E. Hotjgh. 
Yacht Club Notes. 
The Rhode Island Y. C. have elected the following 
officers to serve during the ensuing year: Com., Frank 
F. Olney; Vice-Corn., Dr. W. P. Church; Rear Com.. 
James E. Dawson; Sec, Charles G. Easton; Treas., Jesse 
B. Sweet, Jr.; Race Committee, H. A. Grimwood, Jr., 
E. C. Law, E. A. Robinson, W. F. Boon, D. W. Reeves, 
Jr ; Committee on Admissions, Ernest L. Fuller. Gusta- 
vus Taylor, Walter R. Taft, Nathan B. Horton, Henry A. 
Monroe, Charles E. Holmes, Samuel Whiteley, E. M. 
Clarke and Charles J. Davol. 
^ 
The annual meeting of the Excelsior Y. C. was held at 
its club house in Brooklyn on Thursday evening, Feb, 
27, and the following officers were elected: Com., Lewis 
Lawson; Vice Com., Olaf Harrison; Rear Com., Frank 
Bovick: Treas., George W. Daniels; Finan. Sec'y, Wil- 
liam R. Murray; Record. Sec'y, John M. Russell; Meas., 
Richard Stapleton; Surgeon, Dr. Thomas Johnson. 
Trustees: R. Heinke, L. Lawson, E. De Vos, A. Jarroch 
and Thomas Johnson, 
The annual meeting of the San Francisco Y. C. was 
held on Wednesday, Feb. 12, and the following officers 
were elected: Com., R. «5. Bridgman; Vice-Corn., A. C. 
Lee: Sec. W. M. Edgell; Finan. Sec, A. G. A. Mueller; 
Treas., R. M. Welch; Port Captain, F. A. Robbins; 
Meas., A. L. Dennison. 
The club now has 130 members. 
The boat being built from Mr. B. B. Crowninshield's 
design for the club syndicate has been completed. 
k *? »e 
At the annual meeting of the Royal St. Lawrence Y. C, 
of Montreal, held on Feb. 3, the following officers were 
elected: Hon. Corns., the Right Hon. Lord Strathcona 
and Mount Royal and Mr. James Ross.; Com., the Hon. 
Mr. Justice Davidson; Vice-Com., Mr. Wm. C. Finlay; 
Rear-Corn., Mr. Wm. A. Angus; Hon. Sec'y, Mr. J. J. 
Riley, Jr. ; Measurers, Prof. R. J. Durley. Fred L. Barlow, 
Fred P. Sherwood. 
Imtge and (§8lfarg. 
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Knickerbocker Athletic Club Tournament. 
New York, Feb. 2S. — A shootings tournament will be held in the 
theater of the Knickerbocker Athletic Club on Wednesday, Thurs- 
day and Friday, March 12, 13, and 14, from 1 until 10 o'clock, 
which will be open to all. There will be a revolvsr match at a 
distance of 20yds., on the Standard American target, with a 
bullseye 2%in. in diameter; entries, unlimited, 50 cents each; 
targets of three for $1, if taken at one time. Six shots on a target ; 
five targets to count for prizes; five prizes; any revolver with 
barel not over Sin. in length, with open sights in front of ham- 
mer, and trigger pull of not less than 2M>lbs. Ammunition' must 
be loaded with smokeless powder and a gallery load. Contestants 
may furnish their own ammunition, which must be approved by 
the shooting committee of the Knickerbocker Athletic Club. 
There will also be a pistol match at the same distance under 
the same conditions, open to any .22cal. single shot .pistol whose 
barrel is not over lOin. in length with plain open sights in front 
of the hammer and with a trigger pull not less than 21bs. Am- 
munition must be loaded with smokeless powder and submitted 
to the shooting committee of the Knickerbocker Athletic Club for 
approval. Revolvers and pistols, as well as ammunition, can be 
procured at the range. 
At this same meeting the Indoor Pistol and Revolver champion- 
ships of the United States Revolver Association will be held 
under the rules of this Association, the distance and targets being 
the same as in the previous matches, 50 consecutive shots in an 
hour or less, entrance fee ?5, no re-entry. First prize, the cham- 
pionship cup. to be held by the winner for one year, and a gold 
medal; second prize, a silver medal; third prize, a bronze medal. 
There will be six ranges, so that ample facilities will be afforded 
contestants, while the seats for the accommodation of spectators 
being arranged in tiers -will permit an unobstructed view of the 
match. 
This departure of the Knickerbocker Athletic Club from the 
limits which are usually supposed to encompass athletics is by no 
means recent, a series of revolver matches having been shot by 
its members some years ago with a team representing the Boston 
Athletic Association; but this is the first time that arrangements 
have been made to conduct a shooting match on so extensive a 
scale, except when held in connection with the Sportsmen's As- 
sociation, 
The arrangements of the shooting galleries of Paris have long 
been admired by the Americans who have visited them, and the 
present match will afford those who are interested in this fascinat- 
ing pastime an opportunity for taking part in it under conditions 
which will be much more favorable than have yet been offered 
in this country. A. M. Lemercier, 
Chairman Shooting Committee, K. A, C. 
'rapslwoting. 
If you want your shoot to be announced here tend a 
notice like the following t 
Fixtures* 
March 6. — Newark, N. J. — Smith Brothers' annual sportsmen's 
live-hird handicap, on East Side shooting grounds, Ferry and 
Foundry streets. 
March 6.— Omaha, Neb. — Contest at 100 live birds for Hazard 
trophy between C. W. Budd, holder, and Russell Klein, chal- 
lenger, at 2 P. M, 
March 8. — Fairview, N. J. — Open target shoot of the Fairview 
Gun Club. 
March 8.— Carlstadt, N. J.— Invitation shoot of the Carlstadt Gun 
Club. 
March 12-13.— Junction City. Kans. — Tournament of the Junc- 
tion City Gun Club. 
March 15, — Armonk, N. Y. — Postponed tournament of the West- 
chester County Shooting League. H. T. Wayne, Sec'y. 
March 17. — Cresson, Pa.— Third annual live-bird handicap of the 
Cresson Gun Chib. A, B. Earhart, Sec'y. 
March 19-21. — Indianapolis, Ind. — Annual Grand Central Handi- 
cap tournament; first two days, targets; third day, 25 live birds, 
$25 entrance. Bert A. Adams, Sec'y. 
March 23.— Brooklyn, L. I.— Club shoot of Fulton Gun Club; 
cup event, handicap. 
March 31-April 5. — Blue River Park, Kansas City, Mo. — Grand 
American Handicap at live birds. Ed Banks, Sec'y, 318 Broadway, 
New York. 
April 8-11. — Olathe, Kan.— Kansas State Sportsmen's Association's 
annual tournament. 
April 10. — Marietta, O. — One-day target tournament of the Co- 
lumbian Gun Club. Chas. Bailey, Sec'y. 
April 15-17.— Ashevillc, N. C— Target tournament given by Col. 
E. P. McKissick. 
April 15-17. — St. Joseph, Mo. — Missouri State Amateur Shooting 
Association's annual tournament. F. B. Cunningham, Sec'y. 
April 19.— Haverhill, Mass.— Patriots' Day shoot of the Haverhill 
Gun Club. 
April 22-25.— Omaha, Neb.— Nebraska State shoot. H. S. Mc- 
Donald, Sec'y. 
April 29-30.— Greenville, O.— Annual tournament of the Greenville 
Gun Club. H. A. McCaughey, Sec'y. 
April 30.— Wellington, Mass 1 .— Third annual team shoot of the 
Boston Gun Club. Horace C. Kirkwood, Sec'y. 
May 6-9. — Interstate Park, L, 1. — Interstate Association's Grand 
American Handicap at Targets. Edward Banks, Sec'y; Elmer E. 
Shaner, Manager. 
May 13-14.— Enid, Oklahoma Territory.— Oklahoma Territorial 
Sportsmen's Association tournamant. 
May 13-16.— Oil City, Pa.— Annual meeting of the Pennsylvania 
State Sportsmen's Association, under the auspices of the Oil City 
Gun Club. F. S. Bates, Cor. Sec'y. 
