FOREST AND STREAM. 
t June 7, 1962. 
WESTERN TRAPS. 
A National Gun Club; 
Chicago, 111., May 30. — There is something strikingly interesting 
in the comprehensive proposition just at hand from that well- 
known shooter Mr. John M. Lilly, of Indianapolis, Ind. In brief, 
Mr; Lilly thinks we ought to have, and can have, an international 
gun club. Why has no one ever thought of that, now that it has 
been thought of? That we need sbme sort of a central or con- 
trolling council for the large and constantly increasing trapshoot- 
ilig body of the United States is a matter which would seem to go 
without saying; We have a supreme court in bicycling, in horse 
racing, in canoeing, in almost every form of sportsmanship you 
can mention, Why not in trapshooting? I take it that Mr. Lilly's 
enterprise will meet with favor, and trust that the administration 
of the affairs of the proposed gun club will be such that it will 
steadily and solidly grow into the respect to which the idea itself 
is properly entitled. As to the details of the proposition, it will be 
best to let Mr. Lilly speak for himself, and I give below both his 
letter and the prospectus which he wishes placed before the shoot- 
ers of America through the columns of Forest and Stream. I 
think it may be considered sure that the trap department of 
Forest and Stream will be very glad to hear the opinions of 
trapshooters in regard to this proposition, which, in view of the 
present confused situation in the trapshooting world, may perhaps 
appear at a very timely date. Mr. Lilly writes: 
Indianapolis, May 29.— For some time I have been considering 
the advisability of organizing a National Gun Club, and while at 
Kansas City talked with a great many shooters, who, with one ac- 
cord, received the proposition with enthusiasm. I have now con- 
densed my ideas into the form of a preliminary prospectus, which 
I inclose. Will you kindly read this matter carefully, and give 
me your opinion of the scheme and any suggestions that may 
come to you? t 
"I have the honor to invite you to serve as a member at large 
of the general council. 
"I will furnish complete details when plans are perfected. 
"Your prompt reply will be sincerely appreciated, as I am 
anxious to get things moving. 
"John M. Lilia'." 
The prospectus follows: 
Name.— The name of the association shall be the National Gun 
Club. 
Location. — The headquarters of the National Gun Club shall be 
permanently located at Indianapolis, Ind. 
Object. — The object of the association is to foster and promote 
the sport of trapshooting; to increase the acquaintance and friend- 
ship among shooters throughout the United States, and to fami- 
liarize the youth of the country with the use of firearms, to the 
end that they may be prepared for their country's needs. 
Members. — Application for membership will be solicited from 
residents of every State and Territory in the Union. Members 
will be required to be strictly respectable and reliable, and in 
good standing with their neighboring shooters. 
Officers. — The officers of the club shall be a president and a 
secretary-treasurer. There shall also be a general council, com- 
posed of active members and members at large, appointed by the 
president, to which will be submitted all applications for mem- 
bership and all matters relating to the management of the club. 
This council will also act as a court of final resort in any and all 
controversies which may arise between members. Its decisions 
shall be binding upon all members. 
State Association, — When the individual members of the National 
Gun Club in any State or Territory number twenty-five, they will 
be allowed to form a State Association under the name of their 
State. This Association will be governed by the State officers 
mentioned below. 
State Officers. — There shall be in each State and Territory a 
captain, appointed by the president, who is in good standing and 
in close touch with the shooters. He will serve until Dec. 31, 
1903, or until his successor is elected and qualified. If there is a 
State Association in his State, he will be elected by that associa- 
tion and confirmed by the general council. In the absence of a 
State association, he will be appointed by the president. His duties 
will be confined to his resident State, and will consist in soliciting 
members, in passing upon all applications for membership, and in 
taking absolute management of all matters connected with the 
A'ational Gun Club and the State Association. No application for 
membership will be presented to the general council which has 
not-been recommended by the captain of the State in which the ap- 
plicant resides. He will be allowed as assistants three lieutenants, 
to be located in the sections of the State in which their efforts will 
be most valuable. 
Charter Members.— All applications for membership which are 
dated previous to June 1, 1903, and are passed by the general 
council will entitle the applicants to charter membership. 
Fees and Dues. — Each application must be accompanied by a 
New York draft to the order of the National Gun Club for $5, 
which will be divided as follows: Membership fee, $2; initiation 
fee, $1; annua] dues, $2. These annual dues will pay all assess- 
ments up to date and including Dec. 31, 1903, after which date the 
general council may increase or decrease the dues, as its wisdom 
may dictate, provided that for no year shall they be more than 
$5 nor less than $1. 
Cripple Creek of Colorado. 
12 3 4 
10 10 15 15 
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The following are the scores of Cripple 
Colorado, made May 25, and reported by C. 
taryt ' • 
Nos. 11 and 12 were at 5 pairs 
Events : 
Targets: 
Cameo 
Guss 2 1 .. 
Lee 5 7 15 8 
Price . . . . . . 
Mitten 11 .. 
Woodruff 
Matlock , ,. .. ,, .. .. 
L E Smith 
Razee 
Jones 
Glover 
Stoddard, Sr 
Stoddard, Jr , 
Roodhouse 
F E Smith 
Forrest 10 8 14 12 
Howell 
Tolman 
Foltz 
Creek Gun Club, of 
R. Hutchison, secre- 
5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 
25 25 25 25 25 25 10 10 
14 15 17 
21 
12 11 16 15 
17 16 22 19 18 
19 19 22 21 21 23 6 9 
20 21 21 23 
20 17 24 20 
19 19 22 18 
21 14 19 17 16 . . 9 9 
14 14 20 8 9 
17 8 
14 19 15 16 12 .. 5 4 
16 22 19 21 
15 
18 
12 
They chalk out a big ring on the pavement, and one boy gets in 
the center of the ring with a chip on his shoulder. Then he looks 
unconscious. The other fellows stand around and sort of size 
him up. Wc are sort of sizing things up out here at this particu- 
lar stage of the game. The probabilities arc that the shoot will 
run off smoothly, and be a very pleasant affair. 
May 31:— Messrs. C, W. Budd and Guy Burnside arc among the 
early arrivals in town for the Illinois State shoot. There was talk 
abroad to-day that it was not certain the shoot would be held, but 
this appears without foundation, for the programmes are out and 
all plans going forward for the shoot. This uncertainty does not 
help the event, but it will no doubt be successful. 
E. Hough. 
Hartford Building, Chicago, 111. 
Garfield Gun Club. 
Chicago, 111,, May 31. — The appended scores were made on our 
grounds to-day on the occasion of the fifth trophy shoot of the 
first series. Dr. Meek, T. W. Eaton and A. D. Dorman tied for 
Class A trophy on scores of 23, and after two ties in shoot-off, 
Dr. Meek finally won. Dr. Matthews won Class C, also on 23, 
while J. McDonald did the same thing on same' score for Class C. 
The day was a fine one for trapshooting, being cool and pleasant, 
with a rather stiff south breeze across the traps, causing the targets 
to soar and dip badly at times. It looked so much like rain in the 
early part of the afternoon that some did not come out that other- 
wise would have done so: 
Fifth trophy shoot: 
J A Russe 0111110111111111111101111— 22 
Dr Meek 1111111111011111111111110—23 
W F Tohnson lOlllOOllllOOlllOOllllllO— 17 
A McGowan 1100111011111111101001111—19 
L Thomas 1011101111011111111110101—20 
J D Pollard 1111011101101111100111110—19 
T Eaton 1011101111111111111111111—23, 
G Drinkwater 0101111110011001111111111—19 
F G Barnard , llOOlllllllllOlllOOUllUO— 18 
L A Price 1101110111110111101110011—19 
M E Eldred 0010000100011000010110101— 9 
T Jones ' 1100101111110001111000001—14 
R S Leete 0001010011011111110110011—15 
S 7 . 7 13 
7 7 .. -- 
9 10 10 14 
9 6 S 13 
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Metropolitan of St. Joseph. 
Mr. F. B. Cunningham, secretary of the Metropolitan Gun Club, 
of St. Joseph, Mo., sends scores of the regular trophy shoot of 
that club of May 26, 50 targets, handicap, as below: 
Cunningham, 4. . .11111111111111111111101111111111111111111111111111—50 
Ar nhol d , 6 11101011101111111011111111001111110111111101111111—48 
Libbe, 9 11001101111100101101110111101111110000111111110111—45 
Britison, 9 11110011111111110111111011110111111111110111101111—50 
Stout, 10 11111111110111111111110001111110111111111110111111—50 
Walker, 18 10101111011100011 101111111010101111101111100110111—50 
Shoot-off, 25 targets: 
Cunningham, 2 .1111111111111111110111111—25 
Brinson, 4 .1111111111001111111110111— 25 
Stout, 5 ■.,....1111110111111111011011111—25 
Walker, 9 '. $ 1000100111011111110111111—25 
Second shoot-off, 25 targets: 
Cunningham, 0 ; : 11111 01111110111111011011 — 21 
Brinson. 3 1111111111111111111111111—25 
-Stout, 3 1111111111111101111111110—25 
Walker, 9 1001011111001011110001110—24 
Third shoot-off, 25 targets: 
Brinson 1101111010111111111111111—22 
Stout 1111111011010011111011111—20 
Cunningham, Brinson, Stout and Walker tied. In the shoot-off 
at 25 targets all four of the boys tied, and in the second shoot-off 
at 25 targets Cunningham and Walker dropped out, Cunningham 
shooting from scratch this time, and Brinson making a straight 
score of 25 targets. In the third shoot-off between Brinson and 
Stout, both men shooting from scratch, Brinson won with 22 to 
Stout's 20 out of 25. 
Illinois State Shoot. 
Well, anyhow, next week is one where we are due to get on the 
wagon, or off the wagon, in the Illinois State Sportsmen's Asso- 
ciation. The situation is one very much like that which one may 
occasionally see among a group of boys gathered on the sidewalk. 
De Haupt 
Register 
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Geist .................. .. 5 
Righter > „ 8 
P R Johnson.. . 8 
M R Smith 7 
Holland 7 
Russell , . 
Gill 
J Johnson 11 
Eachus 5 
Hilderbetel 10 11 
Yost 8 .. 
Schultz , .. .. 8 ,. 
Heavener ...: .. 8 .. 
Swartz .. 8 13 
Metz .... 8 10 
Noll 6 .. 
Swayer .. 7 .. 
Torpey . . . .' . . .. 12 
Hallovvell 9 
Emmers 11 
E Hillegas 10 
J Cowan 13 
Pfliger 12 
C Weiman 15 
Fertsch , 
McMichal 
F Whitcomb 
Dr Pepper 
Pierce ; 
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A SCENE -AT THE RECENT NEW JERSEY STATE SHOOT. 
J McDonald .... 
Dr G Mathews. 
A D Dorman 
Dr Huff 
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Events: 12 3 4 
Targets : 15 10 10 10 
T A Russe 13 6 8 8 
Dr Meek 14 8 10 8 
Johnson 10 8 8 3 
A McGowan 14 6 5 6 
Thomas 13 9 8 6 
Pollard 9 5 9 5 
T Eaton 14 9 9 7 
Drinkwater 11 6 5 7 
Barnard 11 6 8 9 
Events: 12 3 4 
Targets: 15 10 10 10 
Price 11 5 2 7 
Eldred 2 .. 
Tones 7 6 4 
Leete 7 6 8 
T McDonald 10 9 10 
Dr Mathews 8 6 9 
Dorman 10 10 8 
Dr Huff 9 7 •• 
Barnard 6 .. ., 
T B Haywood 9 
R Bisbing 8 9 
Perkiomen ' 6 11 8 .. 
Hillside .. 8 13 .. .. 
Deering 7 13 .. .. 
W Arman 9 . . 9 10 
Gaylor , 5 .. 4 ., 
Sensing,..,,,...,,,.,,...,...... 7 10 7 .. 
Brenfian 9 14 9 
Pechin 6 12 8 
Conway 9 9 7 
Delot 6 .. 
G Yerkes 8 .. 7 
Weiss , 6 
J Parks 5 
Gulin 9 
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Penn Gun Club. 
Appended are the scores of the tournament of the Penn Gun 
Club, of . Norristown, Pa., held at Oakview Park on Decoration 
Day. There were over 125 shooters present, who participated in 
most of the events, some shooting all the way through. 
There were about 10,000 targets thrown from expert and magau- 
trap. 
The weather was delightful, and everything went off without a 
hitch. 
T. V. Smith was chairman of the tournament committee, and 
had charge of the shoot. 
There was also a team contest of six men up, 25 targets per man, 
the scores of which are also appended: 
Events: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 
Targets: 10 10 10 15 10 10 15 10 10 15 20 10 10 15 10 10 
Richard '. H 5 7 ,. .. 8 .. 12 
Howard ,r, .. .. .. ..13 8 9 ,. 13 
H Howard ' i : 14 10 7 9 .. 10 .. ;. 
Hodge .. .: .'. 10 .-' 
Saylor .....V. .: ., 1110 8 
Wentz 9 9 
A D Brey ...... « 6 •• 
Laurent - • • •> 4 .. ., -., , - .. ,-- 
Gillin 4 
Bismark v . - : 8 8 . . .... 
8 10 13 
9 12 
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7 13 
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8 15 
8 7 
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8 12 
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D S D 9 10 914 9 10 13 10 
Bell 9 7 9 11 10 7 15 8 
Mink 10 10 9 13 10 10 14 
Fox 10 9 10 12 10 10 12 
Fisher 7 8 9 13 10 10 12 
Ridge 10 9 10 13 10 10 15 
Sanford 9 10 10 14 8 8 14 
Texlis 8 7 7 10 
Davis 9 
Harrison 9 
Fulmer 7 
Wynn 8 
Sherer 9 
Bender 10 
Firkens 9 
Dotterer 9 
Brey 9 
Wertz 10 
Jack 8 
Coldren 9 
Downs 6 
Hilderbrand 10 
L Wertz 9 
O shorn 8 
W Henry 10 .. 
J Wertz 8 6 
Kauplin 9 7 
F Henry 8 8 
Renick 8 . . 
Deitrich 7 9 
Eagler 5 6 
H Wertz 8 6 
H Swover 6 7 
8 14 
8 8 9 18 8 6 
9 10 14 20 9 8 15 
8 10 14 17 10 8 15 
7 10 15 19 8 9 14 
9 8 14 16 10 9 14 
9 9 13 18 9 10 13 
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Team contest: 
Independent Gun Club— Ridge 24, Fox 24, Bell 22, Harrison 21, 
Dr. Pepper 20. Haywood 19; total 130. 
Penn Gun Club— J: Yost 19, P. W. Yost 19, Cassel 23, Bean 22, 
McMichal 22, Smith 22; total 127. 
Frankford ' Gun Club— Betson 22, Myers 22, Bang 21, Alvm 20, 
George 19 Murry 19 ; total' 523. • 
Ambler Gun Club— Brennan 19, Mink 24, Pfleger 19, Hillside 21, 
Conway 19, Park 20; total 122. 
Clearview Gun Club— Sanford 23, Davis 21, Fi«her 24, Caun 20, 
Downs 16, Smith 18; total 122. 
Hillside Gun Club— Aiman 21, R. Bisbing 21, M. Bisbing 18, 
R. Gillen 22, Laurent 15, Fertsch 24; total 121. 
Lansdale Gun Club No. 1— F. Henry 20, L. Schwartz 24, W. Metz 
18 W. Ouintrell 22, J. B. Haup 14, W. Henry 21; total 119. 
Lansdale Gun Club No. 2— F. Bender 21, J. Kauplie 23, J. Hil- 
debide 19, J. Henry 19, Schultz 19, Sheerer 18;. total 119. 
West Chester Gun Club— Torpy 16, Rogers 24, Howard 17, H. 
Howard 20, Eachus 23, Gill 19; total 119. 
Phcenix Gun Club— Dotterer 18, Pierce 18, Confer 18, Fulmer 9, 
Miller 21, W. Buck 23; total 107. 
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Victoria Day at Chatham. 
Chatham, Ont., May 27.— Monday the 26th, the Maple City Gun 
Club, of this city, celebrated Victoria Day by holding aj club 
shoot. The only visitor present was Mr. Leach, of Montreal, 
who was looking after the interests of the Rqbin Hood Powder 
Company. This club will hold a public two ; "-idays' shoot June 
5 and 6. tu « ."'< - ■ • ; . .**--tEi-t~4 
Below are the Victoria Day scores: 
Events : 
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Targets : 
10 10 15 10 :15 : 10.. ITJ.. 10 
10 
Shaffer 6 7 
Shearer 5 6 
Confer 9 6 
Buckwalter 9 10 
H George 8 6 
Peifer 8 5 
W De Witt i 6 6 
Bangs 8 6 
Rogers 10 7 
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Moore 7 
Olderhaw 7 
Taylor. 5 
Leach 
Guttridge 9 
McKay 9 
Boyd 6 
Richards 8 
Bambar 7 4 3 7 
Hayward ••• 7 4 6 a 
Nichol 6 6 . 5 
Remardson .. 7 
Expert traps were used, screwed up to their highest tension, 
which, with a heavy head wind, kept the scores down below 
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