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FOREST AND STREAM 
[Nov. 28, 1903. 
Trophy match, 15 targets, handicap: 
M 
14 
13 
13 
13 
12 
Raynor ......... 4 
Werleman 5 
Brigham 0 
Money 1 
Remsen 0 
Hagedorn 2 
Southworth 3 
Marshall 2 
Palmer 1 
VVigham 3 
Hopkins 8 
Shoot off: Southworth 15, Hagedorn S. 
Trophy match, 15 targets, handicap : 
Brigham 0 15 Palmer 1 
Wigham 3 15 Money 1 
Hagedorn 2 14 Werleman 5 
Southworth 3 13 
Brigham 13, Wigham 12. 
10 
10 
10 
9 
13 
11 
10 
Shoot-off : 
Cttmbefland G«n CI«b. 
Davenport, la., Nov. 12.— The Cumberland Gun Club's three- 
day open handicap tournament ended to-day, The attendance 
was not large, but those who were present had a good time, and 
kept busy trying to make good scores, both at targets and live 
birds. The shooting was very hard. A high wind was in evi- 
dence each day, and the straight scores were quite few. Fifty 
dollars was given to the three high guns. 
In the target programme Gilbert won first, Budd second, and 
Spencer third. Henry Arp was high in the amateur class, and 
did some fine shooting at both targets and live birds. 
Owing to a light entry on live birds for the 25-bird event, the 
programme was changed, and two 10 and two 15 bird events were 
shot. The birds were a fine lot. The shooting was very interest- 
ing, Quite a number of spectators were on the grounds each 
day and took quite an interest in the sport. 
Mr. S. A. Tucker was present, but did no shooting. 
The trade representatives were Messrs. Budd, Hughes, Adams, 
Gilbert, Spencer, Lord and Whitney. 
'1 his tournament will about close the shooting in Iowa for 
1S03, as the game birds will claim the attendance of the sports- 
men during the rest of the year. 
First Day, Nov. JO. 
Events: 1 2 3 4 5 
Targets: 15 20 20 15 20 
Hughes, 22 12 16 15 12^13 
Spencer, 22 12 19 14 12 17 
Gilbert, 22 14 16 IS 15 19 
Budd. 20 14 19 16 12 17 
Arp, 18 13 16 15 11 17 
Lord, 19 13 16 17 13 13 
John B, 17 14 17 17 11 35 
Goar, 16 12 13 12 11 7 
Eggers, 17 11 13 11 9 6 
Brewer, 16 12 10 14 11 .. 
Shaddow, 17 10 12 
Hcgeman, 16 7 14 . . 12 . . 
Eichner, 17 14 16 
Dr Nesbett, 17 
Schriner, 16 
\oung, 16 
Otto, 17 
Spcrry, 19 
Speith, 16 
Muhls, 16 
Gosch, 16 
Kiesell, 16 
Scott, 16 
Patterson, 16 
Keuch, 16 
6 7 
15 20 
13 18 
10 16 
15 17 
11 17 
11 17 
13 16 
10 11 
11 16 
11 8 
15 .. 
S 9 
20 15 
16 8 
20 14 
17 13 
IS 12 
15 13 
16 12 
14 10 
14 16 
10 11 12 
20 15 25 
17 12 17 
19 13 21 
19 14 23 
16 14 24 
18 14 22 
18 12 23 
17 13 20 
17 12 17 
Total. 
169 
187 
200 
190 
185 
182 
169 
162 
.. 12 
.. 15 
10 15 
11 15 
12 16 
11 IS 
9 16 
8 12 
7 8 
17 12 
13 14 
15 13 
17 14 
19 10 
17 9 
10 9 
11 .. 
18 12 
17 12 
13 13 
16 13 20 
18 12 18 
19 14 20 
17 13 16 
17 11 24 
13 15 23 
.. 10 .. 
is i2 
16 13 . . 
15 6 .. 
.. 10 .. 
.. 12 .. 
Second Day, Nov. J I. 
Events: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 
Targets: 15 20 20 15 20 15 20 
Arp, 18 10 14 14 9 17 12 12 
Budd, 20 13 19 18 15 18 13 12 
Gilbert, 22 11 16 19 15 18 13 8 
Spencer, 22 11 15 12 12 19 14 10 
Hughes, 22 7 16 14 13 14 9 12 
Lord, 19 15 14 14 11 16 10 12 
Beckman, 18 9 9 13 10 14 .. 13 
Burmister, 17 13 IS 16 12 16 13 12 
Warner, 17 3 10 7 8 14 S 9 
McBride, 18 14 14 IS 11 18 7 9 
Hoon, 19 11 16 17 12 18 10 12 
Nesbit, 17 13 15 11 13 8 7 
Hanson, 17 8 11 
Henshaw, 17 9 15 . . 12 
Averages : 
8 9 
20 15 
15 19 
17 15 
16 19 
18 15 
10 16 
16 16 
15 .. 
11 13 
11 13 
10 11 
IS 15 
12 15 
10 11 12 
20 15 25 
15 15 19 
12 13 23 
11 13 23 
10 9 19 
12 14 22 
11 10 20 
is ii 22 
10 9 17 
5 10 20 
11 ii is 
Total. 
171 
188 
182 
164 
159 
165 
lib 
129 
147 
Hughes . 
Spencer . 
Gilbert . . 
Budd .... 
Arp 
Lord 
Burmister 
1st day. 
...169 
. . . .187 
, . . .200 
....190 
. . . .185 
....182 
, . . .169 
2d day. 
3d day. 
Total. 
159 
46 
374 
164 
43 
394 
182 
44 
426 
188 
41 
419 
171 
36 
392 
165 
40 
387 
170 
40 
377 
had rebored to a smooth bore, and after some 15 minutes' exam- 
ination and argument whether to bar this gun, he was allowed to 
shoot. Then the next thing he sprung on them was taking the 
ramrod out and sticking one end of it into his left trousers' pocket. 
Grasping it near the end, it formed a V to rest the barrel of this 
ex-rifle in. This put up another howl. Well, they finally allowed 
him to shoot some of his little bullets. He shot, I think, all of 
the morning, and only got one bird. 
They iised to shoot those old guns with an ounce ball well 
enough. The promoter would lose a dozen birds, and perhaps take 
in $20 for his poultry, which was well sold. 
They also used to have sometimes two of these guns to a 
house, one loaded with a ball, the other with BB. for wild geese. 
Sometimes they would have a few bullets with a hole punched 
through them, so as to "make them whistle" when shooting at 
long range, to raise a flock of ducks that was on the water. 
I was down there not long since, and I find the old fellows 
and the old guns have gone where the buffalo and Indians have 
gone. Their sons are equipped with modern breechloaders, and 
the goose shooting match is a thing of the past. 
John W. B.\bbitt. 
Interstate Grand American Handicap at Targets. 
The following is an official communication on the subject of 
which it treats: 
The Grand American Handicap at live birds up until the year 
1902, may be said to have attracted the attention of alt trapshooters 
of the United States, to that one great event, which occurred in 
the spring of the year. The Grand American Handicap at tar- 
gets having now taken the place of the Grand American Handicap 
at live birds, and having become the premier trapshooting contest 
of each recurring season, naturally attracts an almost equal amount 
of consideration and competition on the part of clubs and other 
organizations, who desire to have that event carried out on its 
grounds. 
A few years ago it was necessary, for certain important reasons, 
to decide during the fall of the year as to where the Grand Ameri- 
can Handicap at live birds of the succeeding season should be 
held. Latterly, no arrangements of any kind and no programme 
for the ensuing season have been suggested or made by the Inter- 
state Association prior to its annual meeting, which is held on the 
second Thursday of each December. 
It would seem, from editorial comment that has appeared in 
certain of the sportsmen's journals recently, as if the Interstate 
Association and its several officials had already decided a plan 
of campaign for 1904. Such, however, is not the case, and Man- 
ager Shaner denies most positively that he has voiced any senti- 
ments as to what the plans for 1904 should be, or as to where the 
Grand American Handicap at Targets next season should be held. 
President Irby Bennett and other prominent officials of the 
Interstate Association, likewise agree in denying that they have 
cither individually or collectively expressed any opinions as to 
where it may be best to hold the Grand American Handicap at 
targets in 1904. Everything will be settled at the annual meeting 
on Dec. 10, next. Until, therefore, the report of that meeting is 
published, comment of any kind can only be classed as mere 
guesses. 
SIDE LIGHTS OF TRADE. 
Messrs. Von Lengerke & Detmold, 318 Broadway, New York, 
report that the demand for their Francotte and Knockabout guns 
is nearly double what it was last season, and also that there is a 
great demand for their hand-loaded shells. 
Third Day, Nov. 12, 
Fifty-target handicap, counted in. average on targets, |5 en- 
trance, four moneys: Arp (18) 36, Budd (21) 41, Gilbert (22) 44, 
Spencer (21) 43, Lord (19) 40, Sieben (17) 42, Burmister (17) 40, 
McBride (17), 39. 
Ten birds, |5 entrance, four moneys, handicap: Arp (29) 8, 
Budd (31) 9, Spencer (31) 9, Gilbert (32) 9, Samuelson (29) 10, 
Litzke (28) 4, Hughes (31) 6, Warner (27) 7, Burmister (28) 6, 
Sieben (29) 10, Rogers (27) 6, Decker (28) 8, Causmaker (28) 5, 
Rumler (28) 8, Stone (29) 7. 
Fifteen birds, $10 entrance, four moneys: Arp (29) 15, Budd (31) 
15, Gilbert (32) 13, Spencer (31) 15, Tlughes (31) 13, Sieben (29) 
10, Stone (29) 11, Sperry (30) 12, Warner (27) 9, Rogers (27) 12, 
Decker (28) 12, Rumler (28) 10, Burmister (28) 11. 
Fifteen birds, $10 entrance, four moneys: Arp (29) 15, Budd (31) 
14, Gilbert (32) 14, Spencer (31) 14, Hughes (31) 11, Nicola (27) 6, 
Stone (29) 9, Rogers (27) 12, Sperry (30) 13, Warner (27) 11, Bur- 
mister (2S) 13, Decker (28) 11, Sieben (29) 10. 
Ten birds, $5 entrance, four moneys: Arp (29) 8, Budd (31) 8, 
Gilbert (32) 9, Spencer (31) 10, Stone (29) 5, Nichols (27) 4, 
Warner (27) 3, Rogers (27) 8, Decker (28) 4, Burmister (28) 7, 
Xittelsen (27) 5, Hughes (31) 9. Hawkeye. 
Old Fashion Shooting Matches. 
Derry, N. B..— Editor Forest and Stream: I recently read a com- 
munication in the Forest and Stream on an old-time shooting 
match, which reminded me of some of the match shoots they nsed 
to have when I was a boy on the southern coast of Massachusetts, 
at Westport Point. This was 'way back in the early 70s. 
This little village of 100 people was composed of old, retired sea 
captains and fishermen, most of whom owned an old single- 
barrel smooth bore, or Queen's arm. The principal merit of the 
gun was "how well it would shoot a ball," so every Thanksgiving 
Dav they would hold a shooting match with these old guns, at ball 
shooting. The distance was 40 rods (220yds.). The range would 
be from the road to the river. A big mud flat was the back- 
ground. Their target was a plucked goose, with its wings and 
neck folded and tied close to the body. This was suspended on a 
cross rail from an old tree stump. The fee was 10 cents a shot. 
The bird was examined after each shot to see if it had been hit. 
All guns must be sm_ooth bores, loaded with a single ball. Guns 
to be shot offhand. 
I remember one man had an old Kentucky rifle that he had 
The J. Stevens Arms and Tool Co., of Chicopee Falls, Mass., 
have sold their machinists' tools, patents, good will, etc., per- 
taining to the same, to the L. S. Starrett Co. The firearms 
branch of the company had reached such a magnitude that the 
alternatives were to curtail the product, erect more buildings or 
dispose of some department. The transfer took place on Nov. 
20. The additional space thus gained will be applied to the 
manufacture of firearms. 
At Hamilton, O., Nov. 5, and 6, Mr. Hood Waters won high 
general average, breaking 318 out of a possible 350, using 
"Infallible." 
Oct. 22, Mr. F. B. Ellett, Keithsburg, 111., broke 75 clay birds 
straight from the 18yd. mark. He shot U. M. C. factory loaded 
Arrow shells. 
New York Central Corps. 
The New York Central Corps opened its winter gallery prize 
shooting for the season 1903-04 at Zettler's, on Nov. 18. Over 
twenty members were present to take part in the contest. The 
programme calls for two shoots per month, and two 10-shot scores 
on the 25-ring target, at each meeting, and one shot on the 
bullseye, 4in. carton, for the best center shot. J. N. Sieb was first 
on the ring target, w-ith two scores of 238; H. D. Muller was 
second. On the bullseye target, H. D. Muller was first, with a 
good bullseye, measuring 34 degrees. Scores: 
Ten-shot scores, two scores to count, 25-riug target, distance 
75ft.: J. N. Siebs, 238, 2.38; H. D. Muller, 2-36, 233; D. Scharning- 
haus, 232, 234; F. Brodt, 222, 234; W. J. Daniels, 221, 227; B. 
Eusner, 223, 224; J. Feldscher, 223, 223; C. Gerken, 215, 228; F. 
Jaegers, 231, 210; j. Von der Lieth, 219, 221; F. Schiller, 214, 225; 
F. Roffmann 211, 227; H. Schrader, 213, 224; A. Ritterhoff, 218, 216; 
F. Bauman, 206, 213; C. Tietgen, 204, 203; F. Engelking, 203, 203;; 
J. Kock, 192, 203; H. Von der Lieth, 206, 180; H. Eckoff, 189, 186;, 
"C. Pletz, 184, 185; A. Ihlenberg, 1S5, 182. 
Bullseye target, best center shot: H. D. Muller 34 degrees,. 
C. Gerken 65, F. Schiller 74, J. Kock 76, J. N. Siebs 85, D. 
Scharninghaus 87%, F. Jaegers 100, F. Roffmann 114, H. Von der' 
Lieth 119, C. Tietgen 121, A. Ihlenberg 125, J. Von der Lieth 
145, J. Feldscher 145, F. Brodt 156, C. Pletz 164, H. Schraders 173, . 
F. Engelking 195. 
New York Turner Cadet Corps. 
The boys of the New York Turner Cadet Corps held a prize ■ 
shoot at Zettler's, Nov. 20. Forty-one members were present and 
took part in the contest. The conditions called for 3 shots each 
on the 25-ring target. Scores: M. Stoneham 72, E. Heidelberger 
72, F. Raichlen 72, L. Petersen 71, J. Hinschlager 70, K. Zenker 
70, G. Pfister 69, M. Lindemann 69, K. Moesinger 69, K. Ecken- 
walter 68, A. Cohn 67, Geo. Solter 67, F. Stotl 65, E. Fleinsohn 65, . 
A Dueai 65, J. Kissel 64, Geo. Rohrs 63, F. Esslinger 63, Geo. 
Uthe 62, A. Eckenwalter 62, S. Openheimer 62,- H. Egge 61, W. ■ 
Fleischmann 61, Felix Larsen 59, F. Schalk 59, L. Porr 58, F. 
^^■alsch 56, A. Ahrenholz 54, W. Geisler 50, Wm. Pressler 49, 
L. Fleischmann 47, K. Pressler 43, 1. Kaufmann 40, M. Kramer 38, 
L Zeigler 32, M. Aufses 22, G. Muller 21, E. J. Aronson 12. 
— • — 
Zettler Rifle Clob. 
The fifth weekly shoot of the Zettler Club in its winter gallery 
contest was held at the club's headquarters, on Tuesday, Nov. 17. 
Eleven members were present. Among them was Louis C. Buss, 
who was elected a member the week previous. Buss led the 
group with an average of 244 for 10 shots. The scores are ap- 
pended, 10-shot scores, 25-ring target, distance 75ft.: 
I c Buss 239 246 245 244 245—1219 
■■ 243 244 245 245 244—1221 
R (iute 243 243 242 243 240—1211 
245 244 248 237 245-1219 
H Fenwirth 229 240 235 235 240—1179 
n renwum. ^30 239-1155 
A Krousberg 245 240 246 244 246—1221 
C G Zettler Tr 242 238 246 247 241-1214 
W A Hicks' ' 238 236 236 242 239-1191 
C G Zettler" Sr'" 238 239 235 235 240—1187 
H C Zettler 237 232 236 2i2 237-1184 
R Zettler 235 2.36 235 236 2.33-1175 
T tI' Keller "fr '. 222 237 2.33 233 237—1162 
T H ifener.'si.::: 227 220 240 214 228-1129 
Greenville Shooting Park. 
These was quite a number of the regular patrons of this park 
on the range on Nov. 21. Among them were Dr. Hudson, Wm. 
Hayes, L. P. Hansen, Louis Maurer, Aug. Begerow and Major 
E. Taylor. 
Dr. Hudson, who made the phenomenal score on this range on 
Nov. 5, still holds his form. The Doctor only had an oppor- 
tunity to shoot three scores on Saturday. Scores: 
Dr. W. G. Hudson, 227, 237, 2.33; A. Begerow, 20G, 215, 208; 
L. P. Hansen, 223, 218, 20S, 217, 221; L. Maurer, 219, 224. 
Only two of the revolver shooters of the iManhattan Rifle and 
Revolver Club were on the range. Messrs. J. A. Dietz and J. E. 
Silliman. Scores: 
Revolver, 50yds.: J. A. Dietz, Jr., 89, 88,. 92, 89; J. E. Silliman, 
86, 86, 87. 
Lady Zettler Rifle Club. 
The members of the Lady Zettler Rifle Club, under the leader- 
ship of its president, Mrs. H. Fenwirth, held the first shoot of 
the present season in the Zettler ranges, Nov. 21. Fourteen mem- 
bers took part in the contest. 
The Zettler Club presented the Lady Club with a special prize, 
which was won by Miss Millie Zimmermann. Conditions, 10 
shots, 2.5-ring target, distance 75ft., muzzle rest. Scores: Miss 
Millie Zimmermann 492, Miss Muller 485, Mrs. L. Turbeit 483, 
Miss Kate Zimmermann 482, Miss Kate Laut 481, Mrs. H. Fen- 
wirth 479, Mrs. F. W'atson 473, Miss A. Koch 470. Mrs. Geo. 
Bernius 456, Mrs. H. Scheu 451, Mrs. B. Zettler 443, Miss E. Plart 
448, Miss B. Eusner 404, Mrs. John Laut 264. 
Our Own Rifle Club. 
The Our Own Club, of Hoboken, N. J., held a successful prac- 
tice shoot on its home , gallery, 101 Grand street, on Wednesday 
night of last week. A number of good scores were made. A. 
Von der Decken led the group with a total of 247. Scores: 
Ten-shot scores, 25-Ting target, distance 75ft.: A. Von der 
Decken 247, C. Ortlieb 240, J. H. Kruse 236, Wm. Welz 228, F. 
Glinz 226, Geo. Cordes 228, Wm. Dilger 228, Louis Christ 226, 
Aug. Buehler 224, Fred Buehler 224, John Mertens 224, W. Von 
Holten 220, E. Jurisch 220, Ch. Lessner 218, John Trees 218, Ch. 
Oltner 218, Wm. Harmsen 216. Ch. Devlin 216, Ch. Drees 216, 
Ii. Breuel 214, W. Haag 214, Dr. Wolff 208, Wm. Brandt 206, A. 
Puhm 206. 
Mr, Leach's Latest. 
Mr. Leroy Leach, of Omaha, Neb., was in the city on Nov. 20, 
and with Messrs. C. W. Phellis and D. D. Gross, paid a visit to 
the Cincinnati Gun Club grounds. While there, he gave an ex- 
hibition of rifle shooting, and establi.shed a' new record, breaking 
1601 consecutive targets, and was only prevented from making a 
still larger score by the approach of darkness; the last few targets, 
in fact, were shot at when it was almost impossible to distinguish 
them in the dusk. Mr. feeach is also an expert in the use of the 
shotgun, and has ma^e many good scores at tournaments in the 
Northwest. 
BONASA, 
Miller Rifle and Revoler Club. 
The members of the Miller Rifle and Revolver Club, of 
Hoboken, N. J., show an increased interest in their gallery prac- 
tice this season. This is accounted for in a measure by the fact 
that the Bundesfest is to be held in Union Plill Park ne.xt year 
(June 12-20). 
The Miller club, at the present time seems to be about the only 
rifle club in Hudson county that is developing much activity in 
shooting. There are a number of rifle clubs located between 
Guttenberg and Bergen Point, but nearly all of them are in a con- 
dition of innocuous desuetude. The scores for last week's shoot, 
Nov. 18, are appended, 10 shots, 25-ring target, distance 75ft.: 
C Bischoff 244. F. Unbehanen 240, J. Bischoff 239, R. A. Gold- 
thwaite 237, R. W. Evans 234, C. Bayha 231, W. Grobe 227, D. 
Dingman 243, D. Miller 239, C. Miller 239, A. Meyns 234, R. A. 
Blake 231. P. Schultz 231, C. Kinsey 222. 
Rifle Notes. 
The New York City Corps, Captain R. Busse, will hold their 
first gallery shoot in their winter practice on the Zettler ranges 
on Thursday, Nov. 26. 
The New York Corps, Captain, John G. Tholke, will hold the 
second of its winter gallery shoots on the Zettler ranges, on 
Friday night, Nov. 27. 
The annital 100-shot championship gallery match, which has been 
held for several years under the au.spices of the Zettler Rifle Club, 
will be held again in the Zettler galleries on Feb. 27 to March 
5, 1904, inclusive. - 
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