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YHP tropical AQRICULTUmST. [March x, i 892. 
machine is charged with leaf it may rise vertically 
under_ the charge of leaf. The motion transmitted 
to it is a horizontal motion. "A" receives its motion 
from the jacket or case surrounding it — What part 
of the jacket moves " A." ?— I must explain that 
questions are [being put to me virhich I cannot answer 
yes or no — Mr. Browne said heiwould give him every 
opportunity of answering. — We do not make tea- 
rolling machines to run empty. We make them to 
do work and when they are full of leaf .this outer 
case or jacket gets worn away on all sides. 
The parts that keep it in position on the 
front and back sides wear away quickly. 
1 cannot say therefore that one side causes it to 
move one way and the other the other way. This 
outer jacket contains a surface and drives it. In 
the model it is the side of the jacket from which 
it moves that propels it forward ; the central spindle 
keeping it steady. — I believe you do not claim trans- 
mission of motion by the spindle ? — I have got a 
jacket on my body, but I do not describe the sleeves 
and the pockets, but I describe the whole thing as 
the jacket. — Do you or do you not claim trans- 
mission of motion to "A" by the spindle ? — No, 
I do not specify it. — In your action against Kerr 
you thoroughly disclaimed that any motion was 
given to "A" by the spindle? — I cannot remember 
what I said in that action. — Did you not claim there 
that the spindle was simply a guiding rod? — I be- 
lieve I did, as a guiding rod which I believe I 
explained could be so strengthened as to act as a 
driving rod. I also said that in the model there 
was not a particle of horizontal motion communicated 
to the top rolling siu-face through the vertical shaft 
or spindle. — "A" is dependent for horizontal motion 
on what it receives from the jacket. Which 
part of "A" first gets the motion ? — It all receives 
motion at one time. — If I were to expand the box 
round "A" so as to leave say an inch of an interval 
how would it get its horizontal motion ? — I never 
tried it and won't try. Is it not the edges of "A" 
that receive the horizontal motion from "B" ? 
The whole of "A" receives its horizontal motion 
from the case. The jacket communicates the 
motion to the upper roUing surface "A." The upper 
surface is contained in the jacket and when the 
jacket moves the upper surface moves with it. 
— How does the jacket make it move? I cannot 
explain more fully than I have done. — Does "A" 
receive its horizontal motion through its edge or 
sides from the sides of the box or jacket ? — I can- 
not explain it more clearly than I have done. The 
jacket or case is part of the machine. It may be 
described as a part of the mechanism or otherwise. 
Motion is transmitted through the jacket to the 
top rolling surface (A) and so far it may be said to be 
Eart of the driving mechanism. It not only drives "A" 
ut contains the charge of leaf being operated on, 
and it permits of controllable movement to "A." — 
la it part of the driving mechanism for other purposes 
than driving "A"? — There are no other purposes con- 
nected with the jacket which require driving. — The 
only use of what you call the jacket ia to drive "A" 
and contain the leaf ? I have already explained. — 
When what you call the jacket is lifted off the 
crank-pin and you apply the motor power will the 
lower table move ? — The lower surface will not move 
unless the whole machine is in complete form. I 
have never applied motive power to any incomplete 
machine for the purpose of trying to get it to 
move. Mr. Jackson here remarked that the effect 
would be illustrated by taking the fourth wheel off 
a carriage and then trying to drive home in it, or 
taking a wheel out of a watch, and expecting it to 
go. One of the differences between tlie Standard 
machine and the Excelsior is that in the Standard 
"A" drives the jacket and in the Kxcclsior the jacket 
drives "A." In the defendant's maciiiue the horizontal 
motion of what corresponds to " A " in tlic Excelsior 
iH received from the spindle ? That is so, the 
Hpindlu being carried by a double bow or brac- 
ket attached to the cylindrical drum. — In the 
lixcelsior " A " is a perfect working lit to the jacket 
that BlU'rouada it ? — " A " in placed loosely within the 
jacket and it is a working fit in so far as it can 
be moved freely up and down. In the defen- 
dant's machine there is an interval of about 
two inches between what corresponds to " A " in 
the Excelsior and the jacket round it. " A " in 
my machine must touch the jacket round 
it. I have never seen it touch in any of the 
defendant's machines that I have seen, and I have 
seen seven I think. "A" in my machine in its re- 
ciprocating motion, moves always in the same direction 
to and fro. — When the belt is attached in the defendant's 
machine to the pulley on the spindle, ''A" in it is caused 
to revolve? — Yes, it revolves inside the cylindrical drum 
on its own axis. If I were to take away the wood- 
work round " A" in the Excelsior as it is 
patented the bow would go with it? — Yes. 
but that is a mere detail of construction. — If 
I were to take away the woodwork and the bow 
with it would not "A" be moved about by the 
metal work ? — I have never contemplated such a 
state of things. — " A" would not in these circum- 
stances have the operation you now design for it ? — 
I do not know what operation " A " would have 
inside a box of that nature. I can only give 
my opinion on a machine that is complete. 
I would explain that the jacket consists of the various 
parts of which it is composed. If any one of these 
parts are taken away it would be taking 
away a part of the machine described as 
the jacket. Witness then proceeded to describe 
what a bearing is. It consists of a piece of turned 
iron, or metal inserted into a hole freely and easily, 
so that the piece of metal may be allowed or may 
have permission to revolve freely in the hole. 
Witness's attention was called to the second para- 
graph in the specification and he was asked. — Will 
you show on your model the bearing that connects 
the upper crank pin to the top-rolling surface ? — To 
enable me to show this I must refer to the speci- 
fication and drawings. I point out the bearing on 
the model. The specification has the following 
words in it " K L M " are three crank pins on the 
crank shaft, K being attached to the roll- 
ing surface A. through the case B. The 
drawing clearly illustrates how . this is done. The 
bearing is not directly or immediately attached 
to "A" itself. Yes, I said that the driving mechan- 
ism in the Excelsior is connected directly to the 
jacket at the upper crank-pin by the bearing there. — 
But the metal work of what yr :i call the jacket is 
part of the driving mechanism is it not ?— I must speak 
of this as a whole. A pulley is made up of four arms 
and a rim to it. As engineers we speak of a driving 
pulley as a whole piece in the same way as I 
referred to the case or jacket as a whole piece. The 
metal portion is a part of the whole. The metal 
portion and other parts composing the whole may be 
considered a part of the driving mechanism or 
otherwise. One part of the driving mechanism is 
connected with the other by means of the upper 
crank pin "K." The lining of wood forming part of the 
case or jacket is placed inside the outer frame 
and secured to it by screw bolts. What I have 
done in my machine is simply that I have described 
a circle through the working of two straight lines. 
If I put a sheet of paper between the upper and 
lower rolling surface and suspend it there free from 
each, a pencil attached to each surface would mark 
straight lines. In the machine as it now stands 
with the upper driving belt removed the pencil 
would describe a true circle. If a sheet of 
paper were put between the two sm-faces of 
defendant's machine independent of each of 
them, and a pencil were attached to each of 
them, each pencil would describe a circle about 6 
inches. A circle would also be described on a 
sheet of paper put under the horn plate. — So that the 
motion of Brown's machine in every part through- 
out is rotatory ? — It is not rotatory or rather it is 
rotatory and eccentric. The two surfaces of the 
Excelsior move in straight lines at right angles 
through each other. (Mr. Browne said that in the 
defendant's macliine the upper rolling surface in 
motion was about one-third of a circle he thought 
behind the lower.) In yourj;machine as patented did 
