FOREST AND STREAM. 
[Oct. i, 1964. 
devote to these contests, as would be necessary were they held 
separately. 
The announcement was made at the annual meeting of several 
additional prizes, which will be offered next year for long-distance 
shooting, as well as in the revolver matches. 
In his annual report, Lieut. Jones suggested that all affiliated 
military organizations hold a competition for the National Rifle 
Association medal previous to the fall meeting and send to such 
meeting, at the organization's expense, the winner as the official 
representative of that organization in the President's match for 
the. individual military championship of the United States. Many 
foreign countries have a plan similar to this, the difference 
being that the preliminary shoots are held by countries or canton- 
ments. Such an arrangement would stimulate a great deal of 
friendly rivalry with the organizations for the honor of being 
sent to the big shoots. 
Estimating Distances. 
The probability that Congress will make provision at its next 
annual session for a large annual appropriation to be devoted to 
the purchase of ranges, the equipment of ranges, indoor and out- 
door, distribution of ammunition to organizations of riflemen, etc., 
in accordance with the plan drafted by the National Board for the 
Promotion of Rifle Practice, is responsible for renewed interest in 
rifle and revolver shooting. There are three — "yea, even four," 
as the Psalmist might say — requisites to good marksmanship: a 
gun, a target, ammunition and a place to 'shoot. The national 
board has announced its desire to secure an enrollment in the 
National Marksman's Reserve of from 500,000 to 1,000,000 men, and 
if Congress is really in earnest, adequate provisions must be 
made for the guns, ammunition, targets and, above all, ranges. 
" But, pending appropriations for this purpose, those desiring to 
learn to shoot, can find considerable amusement and experience 
that will be valuable later with a rifle, by undertaking to esti- 
mate distances. In the days to come, more and more attention 
will be paid to shooting at unknown distances, and to get into 
the front rank of shooters, skill in estimating distances is essential. 
Practice in this can be obtained very easily by first learning to 
step distances correctly, one step to the yard, and then, in course 
of a stroll through town or country, selecting an object, estimat- 
ing the distance and counting the number of steps necessary to 
reach it. 
This proposition appears to be a simple one, but it is more 
difficult than it seems, and the results — especially if the trials are 
made by parties of four or more — will be amusing, as well as 
instructive. Some time ago a party of thirty-five or forty gentle- 
.men, the most expert rifle shots in the country, were gathered at 
Sea Girt, N. J., for the matches on the result of which depended 
the selection of a team to go to England to shoot for the Palma 
trophy. Some one asked how far it was to a certain fence, and 
immediately every man estimated the distance. After much good- 
natured bantering, the distance was paced, and the result was 
ludicrous. Every one had over-estimated it, the closest guess 
being 50 yards out of the way, while the majority exceeded it by 
2.00 yards. 
Dou you know? — 
That at 30 yards the white of a man's eye is plainly seen, and 
the eyes themselves up to 80 yards? 
That at 100 yards all parts of the body are seen distinctly, 
slight movements are perceptible, and the minute details of the 
uniform can be distinguished? 
That at 200 yards the outlines of the face are confused, and the 
rows of buttons look like stripes? 
That at 400 yards the face is a mere dot, but all movements of 
the legs and arms are still distinct? 
That at 600 yards details can no longer be distinguished, though 
files of a squad, if the light is strong, can be counted? 
That at 800 yards the men in a squad cannot be counted, nor 
their individual movements distinguished? 
At 1,000 yards a line of men resemble a broad belt; the direction 
of their march can. however, be readily determined. At 1,200 
yards cavalry can be distinguished from infantry, and at 2,000 
yards a mounted man usually appears as a mere speck. 
Yet in these days of long-range weapons, battles are fought at 
a distance of 1,000 yards, and it is desirable for marksmen to 
qualify at that lange. The new rifle, with which our troops are 
to be equipped, has a maximum effective fighting range of 4,781 
yards, or more than two and one-half miles. In other words, a 
bullet from this rifle will kill or disable at a greater distance than 
the man firing it can distinguish an individual enemy from the 
surrounding landscape. • 
Presque Isle Rifle Club. 
Erie, Pa., Sept. 17. — The following scores were made to-day, 
a good many of the shooters being visitors: 
DRIVERS AND TWISTERS. 
W A Parker 82 75 75—232 
J Bacon 75 73 72—220 
G E Shafer 68 67 64—199 
E D Allen 67 66 65—198 
T Almeda 76 73 71—220 G C Hahn.. 67 64 59—190 
Dr A C Wheeler.. 78 73 66—217 T W Paul , 61 48 47—156 
*W S Wheeler 78 70 60—208 W J Leyer...: 60 50 45—155 
J G Germann 73 71 69—213 W W Jordan 59 49 43—151 
*The score-keeper made this score 213; I can only find 208 in it. 
. Cabia Blanco. 
Rifle Notes. 
The annual King shoot of the Dayton Sharpshooters will be held 
at their new range, on the Dayton Gun Club's grounds, on Oct. 
20. There will be free-for-all events and riflemen will be welcome. 
The silver cup given to the Dayton Sharpshooters by Michael J. 
Schwind, and which has been contested for the past few years, 
will be presented to John F. Beaver, by unanimous vote of the 
society. He has won it three times this year, and each time by 
the same score, 118 out of a possible 125, five shots, 200yds., 
muzzle rest. A new cup will be offered at the May contest, and 
any member winning three of the six contests will become its 
owner. 
— -® — 
If you want your shoot to be announced here send a 
notice like the following: 
FtxtMfei. 
Sept. 28.— Concord, Staten Island.— Richmond Gun Club all-day 
shoot. A. A. Schoverling, Mgr. 
Sept. 28-29.— Concordia, Kans.— The Interstate Association's tour- 
nament, under the auspices of the Concordia Gun Club. L. 
S. Mvers Sec'y. Elmer E. Shaner. Mgr. 
Sept. 28-29.— Homer, 111.— Homer-Ogden Gun Club tournament. 
Sept. 29-30.— Centralia, III, Trapshooting Club tournament. T. VV. 
Rice, Sec'y. 
Oct. 4-5.— Crawfordsville, Ind., Gun Club tournament. 
•Oct. 4-5.— Allegheny, Pa.— North Side Gun Club. 
Oct. 6-7.— Dalton, O., Gun sixth annual tournament Ernest 
F. Scott, Capt. 
Oct. 6-7.— St. Marys, Pa.— Two-day shoot. 
Oct 10-11.— Carthage, Mo.— Seventh tournament of the Missouri 
League of Trapshooters. Dr. C. B. Clapp, Sec'y, 
Oct. 11.— Batavia, N. Y., second annual fall tournament of the 
Holland Gun Club. ■ 
Oct. 12-13.— Sistersville, W. Va., Gun Club fall tournament. Added 
money to all events, and prizes. Ed. O. Bower, Sec'y 
Oct. 12-13.— Indianapolis, Ind., Gun Club fall tournament. James 
W. Bell, Sec'y. . • . . 
Oct. 15.— Poughkeepsie, N. Y. — Poughkeepsie-Ossmmg team 
Oct. 18-19.— Litchfield, 111.— Consolidated Trapshooters' Congress. 
Oct. 18-20.— New London, la., Gun Club tournament Dr. E. C. 
Cook, Sec'y. 
Oct. 26.— Concord, Staten Island.— All-day target shoot of the 
Mullerite Gun Club, on the grounds of the Richmond Gun 
Club. A. A. Schoverling, Mgr. 
Nov 1-3.— St. Louis Mo.— World's Fair shoot; live birds and tar- 
gets. Alec D. Mermod. Mgr., 620 Locust street 
Nov. 17-19.— Tampa, Fla.— Tampa Bay Rod and Gun Club, $400 
added. J. A. Hansbrough, Sec'y. 
•Western Pennsylvania Trapshooters' League tournaments. C. 
G. Grubb. Sec'y, Pittsburg. 
Club secretaries are invited to send their scores for 
publication in these columns, also any news notes they 
may care to have published. Mail all such matter to 
Forest and Stream Publishing Company, 346 Broadway, 
New York. Forest and Stream goes to press cm Tues- 
day OF EACH WEEK. 
Mr. D. A. Upson, of Cleveland, O., famous as one of America's 
most skillful trapshots, returned recently from a shooting trip in 
the chicken country. He enjoyed excellent sport. 
The attractions of the fields and woods where birds and beasts 
abound have tempted many away from their regular domicile, 
hence there is less activity in trapshooting matters at this season. 
The second annual fall tournament of the Holland Gun Club 
will be held at Agricultural Park, Batavia, N. Y., Tuesday, Oct. 
11. The programme will be issued in a few days. Messrs. James 
Knickerbocker and Chas W. Gardiner are the members of the 
committee. 
Capt. C. G. Blandford writes us as follows: "Kindly announce 
that the next team shoot between the Poughkeepsie and Ossining. 
N. Y., gun clubs will be held at Poughkeepsie on Oct. 15. All 
members of this club are requested to be present on the club 
grounds for practice Oct. 1." 
The fourth annual tournament, under the auspices of the Raleigh, 
N. C, Club, in conjunction with the State Fair, Oct. 19-20, has a 
programme of ten events, each day, open to all amateurs; $2 
entrance, $7.50 added. Total of added money, $150. The Lyon 
trophy, valued at $100, will be shot for by North Carolina ama- 
teurs only, and the highest score made on Thursday, Oct. 20, 
in extra event, will be declared the winner. This cup must be 
won twice in succession to become property of the shooter. Tar- 
gets 2 cents ; sliding handicap, 16 to 20yds. Shooting commences 
at 9 o'clock. Moneys divided 40, 30, 20, 10. Mr. R. T. Gowan is 
the secretary. 
The programme of the first annual tournament, -given by the 
Recreation Rod and Gun Club, of Morgantown, W. Va., Sept. 27, 
provides ten events, at 15, 20 and 25 targets, three of which have 
merchandise prizes. Event 6 is the five-man team race, 25 targets 
per man. Events 7, 8, 9 and 10 are governed by the Jack Rabbit 
system. Shooting commences at 9:30. Guns, shells, etc., deliv- 
ered on the grounds free. The programme further states that 
"it will be entirely optional with shooters whether they shoot for 
prizes and money, or simply for practice. Merchandise prizes will 
be shot for under a sliding handicap, viz.: Each contestant will 
get to shoot at as many extra targets as he misses in scheduled 
event, also one extra additional target for every three targets 
missed in scheduled event. Example: J. Brown shoots at 15 
targets, breaks 12; he is entitled to come to score and shoot at 
4 more targets. If he broke 11, he would get five extra; if 10, he 
would get 6 extra, and if 9, he would get 8 extra targets. For 
further information address Elmer F. Jacobs, Sec'y." 
Bernard Waters. 
Recreation Rod and Gun Club. 
Morgantown, W. Va., Sept. 23. — The Recreation Rod and Gun. 
Club held its twenty-fifth regular weekly shoot this afternoon at 
Recreation Park, with sixteen guns out. The gusty wind con- 
ditions made good scores very hard to make, and as a conse- 
quence, our percentages were not up to the average for the past 
month. 
The club championship medal was won for the week by Capt. 
John M. Cobun, with an average for the afternoon's programme 
of 90.3 per cent. 
In the club event, Price was high in Class A, with 24. Cobun 
was high gun in Class B with the same score, 24. Moreland was 
high gun in Class C, with 17. The scores: 
Ten targets: Dawson 7, Price 5, Jacobs 8, Tas. H. Smith 5, 
J. L. Smith 9, B. S. White 7, Taylor 8, Geo. F. Miller 7, Ken- 
nedy 8, Van Voorhis 8. 
President's cup, handicap: Dawson shot at 18, broke 16; Price 
19, 17; Jacobs 18, 11; J. H. Smith 22, 13; J. L. Smith 19, 9; B. C. 
White 18, 15; Taylor 20, 16; Geo. F. Miller 21, 13; Cobun 22, 18; 
Kennedy 18. 13; Moreland 19, 13; Herd 20, 11; Cronniger 20, 9. 
Club prizes, 25 targets: Dawson 20, Price 24, Jacobs 18, Tas. H. 
Smith 17, J. L. Smith 15, B. S. White 19, Taylor 18, Geo. F. 
Miller 16, Cobun 24, Kennedy 15, Moreland 17, Herd 11, Cron- 
niger 16, Chas. White 13, L. P. Smith 15, Van Voorhis 22. 
Fourth event, club team race, eight men, 15 birds per man: 
Price, captain, 14, Dawson 11, Geo. F. Miller 11, Kennedy 10, 
Moreland 11, L. P. Smith 10, Herd 9, J. L. Smith 10; total 86. 
Cobun, captain, 14. B. S. White 10, Jacobs 13, Jas. H. Smith 13, 
Van Voorhis 10, Taylor 13, Cronniger 8, Chas. White 12; total 93. 
E. F. Jacobs, Sec'y. 
"Pigeon Main." 
The following, concerning a "pigeon main," is taken from the 
Norfolk, Va., Chronicle: Ihe pigeon main between Norfolk and 
South Norfolk will take place Sept. 20 at Lafayette Park, begin- 
ning at 2:30 o'clock, for $100 a side. Well-known shots, repre- 
senting Norfolk in this shoot,, are Capt. E. O. Lambert, Capt. 
Washington Lambert and Mr. F. L. Jarvies. Those representing 
South Norfolk are Mr. Henry Grenalds, Mr. C. C. Grenalds and 
Mr. T. M. Claud. 
All these gentlemen are well known as experts with the gun in 
this special line of work, and an interesting entertainment is 
promised to all lovers of the sport. Newport News, Suffolk, 
Cape Charles and Baltimore will participate in the sweepstakes. 
Mayor Riddick will contest with Mr. James Ridgewell, shooting 
10 birds each for a setter dog, presented by Capt. Wash. Lambert. 
The judges of the contest will be Mayor Riddick and Mr. James 
Ridgewell. 
After the shoot, Capt. Wash. Lambert will endeavor to lower 
the world's record of breaking 100 glass balls, the record being 
4 minutes and 29 seconds. This feature of the day's sport will no 
doubt be very interesting to all. Half the gate receipts go to 
the Boys' Home. 
Aquidneck Gun Club. 
Newport, R. I., Sept. 21. — Eighteen contestants participated in 
the shoot of the Aquidneck Gun Club in the weekly shoot. The 
main event was the semi-monthly contest for the Winchester gun 
and the weekly shoot for the gold badge. Scores: 
Events: 1 2 3 4 ■ Events: 12 34 
Targets: 10 15 10 15 Tim Targets: 10 15 10 15 T'l 
Powel 19 8 12 8 12— 391 H A Peckham, 18 6 10 
Alexander, 19.... 6 9 7 15-37 1 Coggeshall, 17.... 4 6 
Griffin, 20 7 12 7 11—37 E S Peckham, 19 3 8 
Hughes, 19 6 11 6 10—33 Lewis 7 13 
Gosling 18 7 12 5 13-37 Eggers 9 13 8 10—40 
Dring 18 ........ 5 11 6 13—35 Aldrich 8 12 6 9—35 
Bowler 20 7 8 8 9—32 Bullard 8 13 
Hamilton, 16 8 7 6 8—29 Bonney 5 6 
Graham, 16 6 10 5 7—28 f 
Medal event: Powel 22, Alexander 18, Griffin 15, Hughes 22, 
Dring 17, Bowler 17, Lewis 21, Eggers 23, Aldrich 23, Bullard 16, 
Bonney 14. 
6 6—28 
5 9—24 
5 8—24 
7 8—35 
7 9—37 
5 11— 2Y 
IN NEW JERSEY. 
Seashore Gun Club. 
Atlantic City, N. J.— The shoot of the Seashore Gun Club, 
was held here Sept. 19, 20 and 21'; the scores are appended: 
Sept. 19, First Day. 
Events : 
Targets : 
Lupus 
Foord 
M 
one 
Bryan 
Herold 
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3 
4 
5 
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Frank 8 
Fisher 9 
Bennet 14 
Buck 10 
Evans 12 
Bisset 14 
Huber 16 
18 22 16 13 15 12 16 .. 
1.9 
15 .. 
19 18 
.. 17 
15 14 14 .. 
20 13 19 11 
15 .. 17 13 
Sept, 20, Second Day. 
Events: 
Targets : 
Elliott 
Butler 
Fanning . . 
Apgar 
McKelvey 
Lupus 
Foord 
Malone 
Chew ...... 
Waters 
Bryan 
Garrigue ., 
Clark 
Welles 
Johnson . . , 
Aiman 
Stevens 
Buckwalter 
Evelen 
Colemans . . 
Torpey 
Evans 
Tallman . . . 
Parker 
Hackett . . . 
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Sept. 21, Third Day. 
8 11 13 9 .. 
14 18 19 15. 21 
Events : 1 
Targets : 15 
Elliott 14 
Foord 14 
Fanning 14 
Apgar 14 
Waters 14 
Welles 11 
Garrigue 14 
Pratt 11 
Clark 13 
2 3 4 5 6 Events: 1 2 3 4 5 6 
20 25 15 20 25 Targets: . 15 20 25 15 20 25 
20 23 14 20 22 Johnson 9 14 24 15 19 23 
17 25 11 20 18 Walker 3 4 
18 25 14 18 21 Evelen 11 
19 23 14 20 23 Hacket 12 18 19 11 17 24 
19 23 12 20 22 Torpey 13 15 19 14 17 19 
20 22 13 17 24 Marshall 7 
14 19 9 18 23 Parker 6 
14 20 13 14 20 Young 13 
. . 21 13 16 18 Loder 17 
Fairview Gun Club. 
Fairview, N. J., Sept. 24. — A strong wind blew during the after- 
noon, making shooting very difficult, no two targets taking the 
same kind of light. Chas. Sedore's scbre of 25 straight, " was re- 
markably good shooting. The scores, each event at 25 targets : 
Events: 12345678 
S Glover 21 19 15 .. 
Chas Sedore 18 25 17 .. 
C Hoessick 11 9 22 11 .. 10 .. .. 
H P 18 13 11 10 14 17 12 20 
Dr Moeller 15 18 20 21 18 16 13 17 
Con Sedore 20 17 16 .. 17 .. 18 18 
H Von Lengerke 23 20 24 23 
Geo Sauer 21 .. .. 18 22 22 22 14 
Bound Brook Gun Club. 
Bound Brook, N. J. Sept. 17. — The last shoot for the Pardoe cup 
was shot to-day. Mr. F. K. Steele wound things up by winning 
the cup three successive times, which is not an easy thing to do. 
He is to be congratulated, as he made a good fight for it under 
discouraging conditions. Mr. Steele is a hard worker in the club. 
It was a popular win. Mrs. Pardoe visited the club and took a 
try at the bluerocks, making a good score for the first trial. 
Our club is considering putting up three silver cups to be shot 
for in classes. 
Events: 12 3 4 
Targets : 10 10 5 10 
Dr J B Pardoe 7 6 2 .. 
Mrs J B Pardoe 2 3 .. 
F K Stelle 7 4 8 
Pardoe cup, club race. Mr. 
Events: 12 3 4 
Targets: ... 10 10 5 10 
Martin 4 3 3 4 
B Prugh 4 ..4 6 
Martin was a visitor: 
Broke. Hdcp. Total. 
Dr J B Pardoe 1001001111101111011101111—18 2 20 
E Prugh 1111100000010110111000000—11 12 23 
F K Stelle 1111101111110110011100011—18 10 25 
Martin 0111110100100001110000000 10 
Montclair Gun Club. 
Montclair, N. J., Sept. 24. — Some fourteen men lined up at the 
traps at the shoot of the Montclair Gun Club. The wind was 
very strong at times, and this was productive of some very- 
uneven scores. 
Event No. 2 .prize a buckhorn-handled corkscrew, was tied for 
by Mr. Kendall and Mr. Geo. Batten, and on the toss, went to 
Mr. Batten. 
Event No. 3, a team match, five men on a side, captained by 
Messrs. Babcock and Batten, was won by Mr. Babcock's team; 
score 79 to 75. 
All the shooting done from now to Jan. 1 will count on the 
match for the silver loving cup for the member who makes the 
longest consecutive score on any one afternoon. 
Mr. Kendall did the best to-day with 19 straight. Mr. T. E. Bat- 
ten was not in his usual form, owing to a recently dislocated 
shoulder. 
Events: 1 2 3 4 5 
Targets : 25 25 25 25 25 
Holzderber 16 16 21 17 
Holloway 16 14 
Events: 1 2 3 4 5 
Targets: 25 25 25 25 25 
Babcock 16 17 16 . . 
Soverel 16 20 17 . . 
Cockefair 18 21 20 18 19 Holmes 8 20 9 . . 
Bush 16 16 19 16 .. Winslow 7 18 
T E Batten 8 15 7 .. .. Soper 1 5 
Geo Batten 13 22 16 ... . F Engle 21 22 
C W Kendall 19 22 21 22 23 C Engle 18 
Mr. C. G. Grubb, secretary, writes us that the last tourna- 
ment this season under the auspices of the Western Pennsyl- 
vania Trapshooters' League, will be held by the North Side Gun 
Club, of Allegheny, Pa., on Oct. 4 and 5, at the grounds of the 
Herron Hill Gun Club. Take Coraopolis car at post-office. 
