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FOREST AND STREAM. 
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Detroit Tournament. 
Detroit, Mich.— It is said by old-timers such as Gilbert, 
Crosby and Budd that there was never a three days' tournament 
pulled off with more success than this of the Tri-State Automobile 
and Sporting Goods Association, under such bad weather con- 
ditions. The wind blew a forty-mile clip across the traps for 
three days, and clouds of snow made it impossible at times to 
see the traps, with the thermometer registering from zero to 18 
below for the entire three days. 
We had thirty-three shooters through the entire programme and 
twenty-six entries for the Gillman a«d Barnes international live- 
bird trophy, four more entries than ever before. It was won by 
Mr. R. R. Bennett, of Pittsburg, with 24 out of 25 at 30yds. The 
work of Tolsma, Crosby, Spencer, Gilbert and others was phe- 
nomenal under the conditions and handicap. 
A number of Canadian boys were with us, and we enjoyed them 
very much, as they are all true sportsmen and good fellows. It 
is said the boys all enjoyed the entertainment furnished them by 
Manager Foster, through the courtesy of the Tri-State Auto- 
mobile and Sporting Goods Association at the smoker, but a 
number of them were heard to sing, "Go way and let me sleep" 
as their bell rang for breakfast the following morning. Tom 
Marshall came over, as did E. H. Tripp, from Indianapolis. 
Tom brought along a monkey, but refused to tell any one where 
he got it, 
Feb. 15, First Day. 
The weather conditions were unfavorable. There was a sharp 
north wind, a bright sun and a glare from the snow. The tar- 
gets did not revolve, and therefore were difficult to break. 
Gilbert, Crosby and Spencer came from Brenham, Tex., and 
the veteran Budd from Des Moines, la. ; H. W. Vietmeier, Chi- 
cago; C. W. Phellis, Mechanicsburg, O., and L. H. Schortemeier, 
New York. 
Alex. Tolsma, of Detroit, holder of the Gilman and Barnes 
trophy for 1904, was high gun for the day, breaking 176 out of a 
possible 200. Gilbert and Wood were tied for second at 173, and 
Spencer and Fisher for third at 172. Tolsma wins the diamond 
badge offered by Messrs. Foster and Parker, the promoters of 
the shoot.. Scores: 
Events: 1 2- 3456789 10 
Targets: 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 Broke. 
Tolsma, 18 18 19 16 19 19 18 15 19 17 16 176 
Gilbert, 21 19 18 17 17 15 20 14 19 16 18 173 
Wood, 18 0 0 16 19 16 18 13 17 16 18 173 
Spencer, 20 17 IS 16 19 18 17 16 20 12 9 172 
Fisher, 18 20 19 18 18 10 17 15 19 16 20 172 
Schortemeier, 17 IS 17 17 16 16 18 18 18 18 14 170 
Crosby, 21 18 17 15 18 17 19 15 16 16 17 168 
Schuman, 16 18 16 16 18 14 18 15 18 15 18 166 
Tripp 17 15 16 16 16 17 17 16 17 15 19 164 
Scane, 18 18 20 11 18 14 19 13 20 13 17 163 
Cox, 18 16 17 13 15 15 17 14 20 15 19 161 
McMacken, 16 13 16 15 19 14 IS 17 18 14 17 161 
Phellis, 18 14 19 15 17 13 18 14 19 17 13 - 159 
McKall, 16 16 17 14 16 14 15 16 16 lb 16 158 
Conover, 18 18 16 18 17 13 15 10 17 15 18 157 
Stanley, 17 16 17 14 19 14 14 11 16 10 18 149 
Taylor, 19 14 15 .. 17 17 18 16 17 17 16 148 
Budd, 19 14 17 13 17 13 13 14 16 15 15 148 
Clark, 19 15 15 11 16 9 19 8 14 14 17 138 
Vietmeyer, 18 12 15 15 11 12 13 14 15 15 10 132 
T E Reed, 19. 14 15 9 13 10 12 7 14 13 16 123 
L A Reed, 19. 10 10 13 13 8 11 10 16 10 14 115 
Gaylord, 17 15 16 10 13 10 64 
Chapman, 17 12 18 10 11 41 
Dalton, 17 15 10 .. 10 36 
Albion, 17 12 14 26 
Tarvis, 16 17 10 18 15 16 17 19 16 17 
Sparks, 16 11 16 12 18 14 13 13 18 . . 13 
Gill, 16 12 15 8 4 8 .. 8 9 .. 
Lamerand, 16 15 16 15 15 
Nacker, 16 17 15 11 9 .. .. .. 
Johnson, 16 16 8 15 14 12 
Renick, 16 18 14 ... 
Feb. 16, Second Day. 
A strong west wind helped the birds materially. There were 
four events on the programme, but the last, a miss-and-out event, 
was omitted owing to the lateness of the hour. 
In the 6 bird event there were sixteen shooters who scored 
straight; in the 9-bird shoot five scored straight, and nine scored 
10 in the third event. 
C G Spencer, of St Louis, Mo., was high man; Charles Budd, 
of Des Moines, la.; A. H. King, of Pittsburg, Pa., who' at one 
time was holder of the Gilman and Barnes trophy;- I. Chapman, 
of Fulton, N. Y., and Fred Gilbert, of Spirit Lake, la., were tied 
for second with 24 each. W. R. Crosby, of O'Fallon, 111.; R. 
Coffee, Mort Mayhew, of Marcy, N. Y. ; H. Scane, of Ridgetown, 
Ont.; H. G. Taylor, of Mecklin, S. D., and Spring Smith of 
Detroit, were in for third money with 23 apiece. The scores: 
Events : 1 
Targets: 6 
Scane, 30 5 
R Coffee, 30 4 
Chapman, . 29. 5 
Tolsma, 31 » 4 
Jarvis, 28 5 
Gies, 26 2 
Alban, 30 5 
Gallon, 26 1 
" - ....... 2 
2 3 
9 10 
8 10—23 
9 10—23 
9 10—24 
.. 9—13 
7 9—21 
8 8—18 
5 ..—10 
.. ..— 1 
7 ..— 9 
7 8—21 
8 8—22 
8 9—23 
7 10—23 
6 ..—11 
8 9—22 
.. ..— 6 
9 8—23 
Event 
Events: 1 
Targets: 6 
Gilbert, 33 6 
Smith, 28 6 
Cantelon, 30 .: 6 
J E Reid, 29 6 
Clark, 28 5 
L H Reid, 28 ... 
A N King, 30.... 
R R Bennett, ^0. 
Hawthorne, 29... 
Marshall, 31 
Budd, 31 
Youngblood, 29 . 
Vietmeyer, 28 ... 
Armstrong, 27 6 
Phellis, 29 5 
Spencer, 31 6 
McMackin, 26 
[, 6 live birds, entrance $5; $10 
$15 added. Event 3, 
2 3 
9 10 
8 10—24 
8 9—23 
8 8—22 
7 9—22 
8 ..—13 
6 8—20 
9 9—24 
6 10—21 
. ..— 5 
5 7—17 
8 10—24 
..— 6 
8 ..—14 
,. ..— 6 
8 8—21 
9 10—25 
.. 10—10 
Gaylor, 26 
Doods, 30 6 
McCall, 29 6 
Mayhew, 30 
Taylor, 28 . 
Fischer, 28 
Scott, 29 .. 
Cox, 28 .... 
Crosby, 33 6 
The conditions were: 
added. Event 2, 9 live birds, entrance 
10 live birds, entrance $10; $25 added. 
Feb. J7, Third Day. 
The contest of the day was the international live-bird event for 
Gilman and Barnes International live-bird championship trophy, 
25 live birds, $25; $100 added; high gun division of moneys. 
A, strong wind from the west favored the birds. 
Mr. R. R. Bennett, of Pittsburg, won the trophy. He is the 
fifteenth winner. It was presented to Jack Parker in 1890 by 
Gilman & Barnes, proprietors of the Hotel Des-Chree-Shos-Ka, 
and was first shot for on Fighting Island that year. Those who 
have won the medal since then are: L. T. Duryea, Glencove, 
L. I., 1890; H. L. King, Cincinnati, 1891; Rolla Heikes, Dayton, 
O , 1892; A. H. King, Pittsburg, 1893; Richard Merrill, Mil- 
waukee, 1894; J. H. Bortel, River Rouge, 1895; T. W. Lathem, 
Cleveland, 1896; Jake Klein, Detroit, 1897; R. D. Emslie, St. 
Thomas, Ont., 1898; R. Bates, Ridgetown, Ont., 1899 and 1901; 
William Ellison, - Nashville, Tenn., 1902; Frank Weatherhead, 
1903; Alex. Tolsma, Detroit, 1904 and R. R. Bennett, Pittsburg, 
1905. 
The scores for the trophy shoot follow: King (30) 22, Bennett 
(29) 24, Crosby (33) 23, Gilbert (33) 22, Spencer (32) 21, Gill (26) 
21 Phellis (29) 22, Marshall (31) 21, Tolsma (31) 22, Mayhew (30) 
22 Scane (30) 23, Smith (27) 22, Taylor (29) 21, J. Marks (29) 21, 
Chapman (30) 23, Coffey (29) 22, J. E. Reid (28) 22, L. H. Reid 
(29) 18, Spaxkins (27) 16, Clark (28) 21, James (27) 21. 
Riverside Gon Club. 
Utica, N. Y., Feb. 22.— The Riverside Gun Club's midwinter 
tournament had about fifty participants. The target championship 
was won by Mr. John Watts, of Deerfield Corners, a well-known 
and popular sportsman of central New York. 
In the merchandise event No. 6, the winners were Messrs. 
Clifford M. Teller, Kretzer, Bert Biddlecome, G. Walling, D. 
Loughlin, S. Walling, Walter L. Race, John Watts, A. E. Conley, 
W. A. Lewis, Walter Milgate, Wilson. 
Shooters came from Cohocton, Norwich, Albion, Little Falls, 
Marcy, Herkimer, Richfield, Springs, Waterville and Sherburne, 
J. H. Briggs was the trade representative present. Messrs. John 
McElwaine, George L. Waters and D. and E. J. Loughlin had 
the tournament in charge. 
About 5,000 targets were thrown: ^ 
Events: 
Targets : 
10 20 
10 15 
19 
7 12 
9 20 
6 12 
6 14 
6 16 
Conley •. 9 16 
E Loughlin 7 14 
C Teller 
W Lewis , 
Carney 
Race 9 14 
D. Loughlin 10 15 
Kretzer 
M Teller 
Visscher , 
Lawrence , 
Ballistite 7 11 
Gangloff ? 13 
Pierce 9 13 
Mayhew 8 17 
Fleck 8 11 
Biddlecome 8 20 
Johnson 9 12 
Deck 6 15 
Schultz ■ 8 12 
Jones 9 13 
G Walling ..: 7 17 
Graham 8 14 
S Walling 8 16 
Cann 11 
A Walling 17 
Wheeler 13 
Clarke 16 
Palmiter 18 
Miller 10 
Morgan 15 
Weber 12 
Hubbard .. 10 
Wilson 6 16 
Sabine 
Cook 
Watts 
Grossman 
Bacon 
Milgate •• 
Maine 
Wickham •• •• 
Kaley •• 
Dooley • 
R Hughes 
De Bee .•• •• •• 
Davis 
3 4 5 
10 20 10 
10 16 10 
6 13 9 
9 19 8 
8 20 9 
6 14 5 
6 14 10 
10 20 8 
10 18 8 
14 7 
5 
6 7 8 
25 10 20 
9 
6 
7 
12 
14 
10 18 
8 13 
7 .. 
8 15 
6 
10 
7 12 10 
9 14 
6 12 
10 16 
8 16 
10 14 
8 15 
6 13 
8 12 
7 19 
11 
12 
is 
16 
16 
20 
15 
12 
16 
15 
8 
9 
5 16 
7 
9 
7 
6 
8 
6 12 
12 
16 
14 
14 
10 15 
6 11 
10 20 
10 15 
0 7 
7 17 
8 11 
6 12 
11 
13 
11 
14 
11 
13 
8 13 
10 17 
.. 12 
8 14 
.. 14 
.. 15 
.. 11 
.. 13 
8 
10 
15 
■7 
12 
20 
7 
13 
15 
19 
7 
14 
9 
10 
12 
16 
'6 
24 
10 
8 
16 
9 
18 
15 
■7 
12 
7 
12 
7 
6 
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6 
16 
5 
11 
At Harrisborg. 
Harrisburg, Pa., Feb. 24.— The scores of this shoot, held on 
the grounds of the Harrisburg Shooting Association, Feb. 22, are 
appended. The birds were a fine lot. Weather very raw and 
cold. The following day the tie was shot off at 10 o'clock, Welhng- 
ton winning the shoot-off, with Hoffmer second. Both of these 
men are from our city. Mr. Stephens is from Oxford, Pa. There 
were two miss-and-outs after the ties, of which Wellington suc- 
ceeded in winning both of the miss-and-out races, killing 29 
birds straight. 
We had a very successful shoot throughout. 
Keystone Trap Shot Wad -Co.'s trophy, 20 birds, entrance $10, 
birds included; four moneys: 
Oliver 29 • 22222222222022202220—17 
L C 'Smith 29 21000201120102122002—12 
D H Herrold, SO 00001220020222220220—11 
Stanley 29 22200222221122212220-17 
Hawlev 29 02200222200222222200—13 
Fritz 28 "" 00222222202212222222—17 
Svlm'ar 29 02012121212111011222—17 
Steohens 30 12021222212122111202—18 
Gcdcharles 29 12120121122202121201-17 
McKelvev '29 20222001220222020200—12 
Wnlls 99 12122002120112112220—16 
riirtis "28 02222011220012112220-15 
Derk 30 00122202122212222201—16 
Won d s 29 02222222222222002220-16 
Rov 29 12T200010021001 
^^I'a h 22202122012102200010—13 
Welli'ngton,' 'so'.'.'.'.'. 22222222022220222222-18 
Hoffman 29 01220222122222221121-18 
Vnfr\c-k 27 "" 12122211001102220022—15 
Parker 28 11120221011101101010—14 
Albert ^8 01022020m20U22212-15 
Steward, 27 • 12012012100102120210—13 
Ties for trophy shot off at 10 birds: 
Steohens 30 2110221002— 7 Hoffman, 29 0222211110— 8 
Wellington, 30 2222222222-10 
Dickey Bird Toornament, 
Kansas City, Mo., Feb. 21.— We wish to withdraw our dates 
of March 20 to 25, for a tournament, and in doing so make the 
following explanation, which we hope you will publish in your 
columns: 
It was our intention to give an indoor tournament in Kansas 
City's celebrated Convention Hall. We intended to make it« a 
very elaborate affair, and in addition to a tournament, have a 
small-sized sportsman's show, confining the displays to lines closely 
allied to trapshooting. 
We expected to make backstops of iron, on which would be 
painted signs of the firms interested. We found that we could 
arrange the hall so that the targets would have a, flight of . 30yds. 
right and left, and 45yds. straightaway before striking the. back- 
stops. We proposed to add $100 per day to the regular pro- 
gramme, and further, to purchase a return ticket (no matter how 
far) for' every man shooting 1,000 targets during the week. Ar- 
rangements were made for continuing the programme through the 
evening and including a number of special features, sure to at- 
tract a large crowd. 
We have received considerable encouragement from the firms 
interested in promoting the shooting game. They all recognize 
the novelty of the tournament and the fact that it will attract 
universal attention. A number of them write us, however, that 
they will be unable to get together a suitable exhibit in so short 
a time. We have therefore decided to postpone the shoot until 
just before or just after Jan. 1, 1906. We intend to make this 
tournament and exhibition the biggest thing of its kind ever held 
in this country. 
As we will not hold the shoot in the hall, we will postpone our 
outdoor tournament until later in the season, giving way to the 
Omaha and St. Joseph gun clubs who have taken dates for the 
same week. Our dates were published Jan. 5, 1905. 
W. S. Dickey Clay Mfg. Co. 
8 9 Shot 
14 12 
13 14 
15 14 
12 13 
Schenectady Gun Qub. 
Schenectady, N. Y., Feb. 22.— First high average was won by 
W'arnick, 93.5 per cent.; second high average. Sanders, 92.1 per 
cent.; third, Adams, 82.1 per cent. Money was divided Rose sys- 
tem. Scores: 
Events: 1 2 
Targets: 15 15 
Keller 13 13 
Wallburg 12 13 
Adams 12 12 
Tones 12 13 
Ferguson 14 13 
Sanders 14 14 
H E Greene 13 15 
Warnick 14 15 
Livingston 13 12 
Valentine 14 13 
Huyck 11 15 
Hancox 15 13 
Holloway ...11 9 
Price 7 8 
Bryan 10 10 
Harvey 12 11 
Underbill 12 13 
Steves 7 6 
Lovejoy 11 
Miller 
Fitzjohn 
Welling . . • . 
Knight 
3 4 
15 15 
13 13 
15 13 
13 14 
11 11 
13 11 
15 15 
11 12 
14 13 
13 12 
14 14 
15 12 
14 13 
9 12 
5 6 7 
15 15 20 
14 14 16 
12 14 18 
14 14 18 
13 14 16 
14 .. .. 
13 12 17 
13 12 16 
15 14 18 
14 14 17 
13 14 15 
14 12 18 
13 14 15 
8 11 16 
14 15 
14 10 
14 14 
15 12 
12 14 
13 12 
14 14 
10 .. 
9 ., 
12 .. 
13 10 
10 .. 
13 11 
8 13 19 
11 13 15 
10 14 15 
13 10 
18 
at. 
Broke. 
Av. 
140 
122 
.871 
140 
124 
^885 
140 
126 
.900 
140 
115 
.821 
75 
65 
.866 
140 
129 
.921 
140 
116 
.828 
140 
131 
.935 
140 
122 
.871 
140 
123 
.878 
140 
122 
.871 
140 
125 
.892 
125 
86 
.688 
30 
15 
.500 
95 
69 
.726 
125 
97 
.775 
110 
87 
.790 
45 
23 
.511 
45 
35 
.777 
50 
46 
.920 
15 
9 
.600 
15 
8 
.533 
15 
6 
.400 
14 14 
.. 9 
8 
6 
V. Wallburg, Sec'y. 
Target Velocities. 
Dayton, O., Feb. 22.— Editor Forest and Stream: Will you 
kindly find space in your columns for the following target prob- 
lem? If at 10yds. from the trap the target is thrown 12ft. high, 
what height will it have to attain to keep it in the air long 
enough to go 40yds.? At what distance from the trap will its 
highest rise be? And what will the velocity per second be to 
carry it the 40yds.? 
I would be pleased if some ballistic expert — reader of your, 
I won't say valuable paper, for that goes withovit saying— would 
give a solution to the above. I have tried to work it out, but 
am not satisfied that I have got the solution to it. Trap. 
[The problem cannot be solved definitely because it has no con- 
stants. The wind, gentle or strong, from any direction; the vari- 
able power of the springs of different traps, and of the same trap 
at dift'erent times; the targets flying edgewise or sidewise offer- 
ing variable resisting surfaces; their spinning fast or slow, or not 
at all are all variants. However, in a general way, they follow 
the law of all projectiles, describing approximately a parabola; and 
their highest point of flight is a trifle less than two thirds of the 
distance thrown.] 
Springfield Stooting Association. 
Springfield, Mass.— This club celebrated Washington's Birth- 
day by holding a shoot on our grounds at Red House Crossing 
on the afternoon of Feb. 22. The day was very unfavorable for 
trapshooting, being cold and windy. However, some good scores 
were made, all things considered. 
Only six shooters turned out, many staying away on account of 
the weather. Scores follow: 
Events : 
Targets : 
123456789 10 11 12 
10 10 10 10 15 10 10 10 10 15 10 10 
Finch 5 3 7 8 7 
Kites 6 7 9 10 9 8 .. 
Snow 9 6 8 .. 11 .. 7 
Cheesman 7 5 7 4 11 6 7 
Le Noir 5 7 6 6 10 9 6 
Hawes 6 6.. 6 .. 6 4 
7 8 12 8 6 
8 5 8 7.. 
7 6 7 .. 4 
Shot 
at. Broke.' 
110 71 
110 
100 
85 
85 
50 
77 
65 
55 
53 
28 
Misfire. 
Interstate at Colorado Springs. 
Pittsburg, Pa., Feb. 25. — Kindly announce to the readers of 
Forest and Stream that the Interstate Association has made 
arrangements to give a tournament at Colorado Springs Colo., 
Aug. 29, 30 and 31, under the auspices of the Colorado Springs 
Gun Club. The Colorado Springs Gun Club advises me that it 
will add $1,000 cash to the programme events, and in addition to 
this amount will give professional averages either in cash or 
suitable trophies. This will undoubtedly be one of the biggest 
tournaments of the year. ■ ^ , 
Elmer E. Shaner, Sec y-Mgr. 
PUBLISHERS' DEPARTMENT. 
Washicgton. 
Low-Rate Tour via Pennsylvania Railroad. 
March 9 is the date on which will be run the next Personally- 
Conducted Tour of the Pennsylvania Railroad to Washington. 
This tour will cover a period of three days, affording ample time 
to visit all the principal points of interest at the National Capital, 
including the Congressional Library and the new Corcoran Art 
Gallery. Rate, covering railroad transportation for the round trip 
and hotel accommodations, $14.50 or $12 from New York, $13 or 
$10.50 from Trenton, and proportionate rates from other points, 
according to hotel selected. Rates cover accommodations at hotel 
for two days. Special side trip to Mount Vernon. 
All tickets good for ten days, with special hotel rates after ex- 
piration of hotel coupon. 
Similar tours will be run on March 23, April 6 and 24, and 
"'^^For itineraries and full information apply to Ticket Agents; 
C. Studds, Eastern Passenger Agent, 263 Fifth avenue, New York; 
or address Geo. W. Boyd, General Passenger Agent, Broad street 
station, Philadelphia.— dv. 
The card of Messrs. Lorillard & Walker appears this week for 
the first time in our advertising columns Mr. Frank H. Walker 
was for a number of years connected with the brokerage depart- 
ment of Messrs. Gardner & Cox. His experience there was varied 
and thorough, and he is knov.'n as a man of rare business and 
executive ability. Mr. Ernest Lorillard comes from a family ol 
famous yachting men. For a number of years he was in charge 
of the brokerage department of Mr. A. Gary Smith's business. 
The practical experience gained there, coupled with his great 
knowledge of yachts, fully equips him for the new undertaking. 
Messrs. Lorillard & Walker will carry on a general yacht broker- 
age and insurance business at 41 Wall street. On their lists will 
be found practically all the yachts that are in the market. 
The Philadelphia Arms Co., makers of fine shotguns ranging in 
price from $50 to $500, have enlarged their plant, and are now 
better prepared to meet the constantly growing demand for their 
excellent guns. In our business columns this firm call attention 
to the strength, symmetry, excellent workmanship, boring, etc., 
of which more is fully set forth in their illustrated descriptive 
catalogue, which is sent free to applicants. 
Evans' ale is a beverage that has had a popularity extending 
over a great many vears and increasing all the time. It is more 
generally used to-day than ever before, and has made the brewers, 
C H. Evans & Sons, Hudson, N. Y., widely known throughout 
the whole country. Men who drink ale or beer would do well to 
make a trial of Evans* ale, for they will then know the reason ef 
its wide popularity. 
