BOB 
FOREST AND STREAM. 
[June 24, 190S. 
WESTERN TRAP. 
Chicago Tfapshootefs' Tournament. 
Chicago, IH. — Another very successful tournament was held 
by the Chicago Trapshooters' Association last Saturday and Sun- 
day. The weather was good, save the second day, when there 
was the "Windy City" wind across the traps that kept all 
guessing, and lost Frank Riehl the high general average, as the 
left quartering target was very low and] dropped at about 25yds. 
from the trap. 
The attendance was good, and it was a surprise to^ all tO' see 
that the attendance was lai-ger the first day than on the second. 
Frank Riehl was hard pressed by John Boa on the first day, and 
out of 190 targets he made 179, John Boa 178, with Billy Stan- 
ba^-d 176. - ■ 
'The amateurs had a pretty race, and when the totals were 
bosled, it was J. R. Graham with 174, A. Molle 173 and Claud 
Bmyon 172. 
The 50 target event with the handicap was the event of the 
second day. It had twenty-one entries, with Burnham, of In- 
diana, as the lucky man, as well as the best shot. Fred Lord 
came on fast, and was second with 46. Stannard a very good 
third with 45, considering the long distance he had been assigned. 
largets wel-e flot thrown as hard the second day as the first, 
hence the low left angles. All the appointments connected with 
the park are good as can be, and the Association are alive to the 
tact that the next G. A. H. should be held on the historic Watson 
Park.. 
Stannard was high professional for the two days, as he caught 
«i« to the low targets and lost but 7 the second day, and finished 
With 359 out of 380. Riehl was second with 356. 
A Molle, the Antigo, Wis., Man, held up well, and with the 
good score of 173 the last day, made high amateur for the two 
days, total 340. Shepardson second, 332. Vance third, 327. 
Those present were: Traveling men: Tramp Irwin, Ward 
Burton, Fred Lord, W. D. Stannard, Geo. H. Steenberg, H. W. 
Vietmeyer, Frank Riehl, H. W. Cadwallader, Fred Quimby, and 
John Boa. 
Others: Alex. Vance, Capron, 111.: A. Knussell, Ottawa, 111.; 
Kit Shepardson, La Grange, Ind. ; A. Molle, Antigo, Wis.; C. 
E. Henshaw, Antigo, Wis.; Geo. Roll, Blue Island; J R. 
Graham and Ed. Graham, Ingleside, 111.; J. C. Gardner, Puil- 
man. 111.; J. S. Losey, Hebron, III; L. M. Apple, French Lick, 
Ind.; Max Hensler, Bottle Creek, Mich.; C. Burnham, Lowell, 
Ind, 
r^'^^\^ Cliicago boys were Charles Antoine, V. L. Cunningham, 
P- A Hanagan,. F. Myrick, H. D. Curtz, J. S. Young, Dr. 
J: E- Reynolds, F. Richards, G. H. Hathaway, M. R. McKinney, 
\Y- h ,9r"fV'^> Tosetti, Geo. Eck, W. A. Davis, Claud Binyon, 
J. Webber, E. S. Shogren, J. W. Cookley, M. J. Morehouse, 
J B. Basfto, Dr. Carson, R. Kuss, and Lem Willard. The scores: 
June JO, Fitst Day. 
Events : 123456789 10 11 12 
Targets: , 15 15 15 15 15 20 15 15 15 15 15 20 Broke. 
I'frd 13 13 14 13 12 20, 13 11 15 11 12 19 166 
L Willard 12 12 12 14 14 20 11 13 13 12 14 15 162 
G Steenberg 15 14 14 15 11 18 11 13 13 13 13 16 166 
A Vance 13 13 13 13 13 18 14 14 13 13 12 18 167 
Goakley , 8 14 10 12 1116 10 13 9 13 13 17 146 
t C Riehl 15 15 12 15 14 19 14 15 14 13 13 20 179 
Dr Carson 11 15 14 II 14 18 15 14 14 14 11 17 168 
J^Barto 11 12 14 14 13 17 14 13 15 15 12 16 166 
Morehouse 12 13 13 11 11 16 12 13 13 14 11 16 155 
M Kneussl 11 14 13 13 12 19 13 14 13 10 12 16 160 
Kit Shepardson 12 14 12 14 13 16 14 14 13 14 14 18 168 
tleinpson 12 13 12 14 14 17 14 13 13 13 11 17 163 
h B Shogren 13 14 11 12 14 18 14 13 13 13 13 16 164 
Vietmeyer 10 9 12 15 15 17 10 15 11 12 12 13 151 
W D Stannard 14 14 14 13 14 19 13 14 14 14 15 18 176 
Cadwallader 10 15 14 13 11 20 1-2 13 13 13 14 14 162 
A Molle 13 15 13 15 14 18 11 13 15 14 13 19 173 
Henshaw 13 10 14 12 13 18 11 12 U 7 12 18 151 
G Roll 14 15 13 14 12 17 14 12 13 14 13 20 171 
J R Graham 12 13 11 15 14 20 15 13 15 14 14 18 174 
Ed Graham 11 13 11 14 11 19 13 14 12 13 14 18 163 
Gardner 12 11 13 14 12 19 14 11 13 12 15 18 163 
Webber , 9 13 9 10 11 19 12 14 14 14 13 17 155 
J S Losee 12 13 14 14 15 20 11 12 14 9 10 17 161 
C Binyon 12 14 15 15 14 19 13 12 12 14 14 18 172 
Davis 10 16 13 15 12 14 11 14 ... 
Apple 13 13 14 12 16 
Geo Eck 13 14 14 13 13 19 
Tosetti 14 11 9 11 15 14 
Curtiss 11 14 10 11 13 13 
J Boa 15 15 13 14 13 20 14 15 15 12 12 20 178 
Mack 11 11 10 8 7 17 11 14 11 14 11 16 141 
McKinnon 13 11 12 12 12 
Hathaway 12 9 10 8 13 ... 
Richards 13 13 11 5 15 
Young 13 13 13 15 19 
Johnson .. 13 13 13 15 19 
Birkland 8 12 10 6 16 
Reynolds 11 8 9 10 5 
Gaskins 9 8 9 12 
Hanagan 10 13 14 
Myrick 10 13 18 
Kurtz 6 11 12 ... 
Cunningham 12 14 16 
Antoine 8 . . 10 
Elliott 8 13 
June I f, Second Day. 
Events: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 
Targets: 15 15 15 15 15 20 15 15 15 15 15 20 Broke. 
Lord 11 12 14 12 15 17 14 13 12 12 13 17 162 
Stannard 14 15 15 15 15 20 13 15 15 12 15 19 183 
Steenberg 11 13 12 12 14 18 13 12 13 13 14 16 161 
Hensler 11 12 13 10 12 17 12 13 14 13 14 19 160 
Vietmever 11 10 14 9 12 11 12 11 14 13 13 15 150 
Riehl 14 14 13 13 14 17 14 15 14 14 15 20 177 
Eck ,: 11 12 14 12 13 17 14 14 15.14 13 14 163 
Shogren 11 8 12 14 13 15 13 14 13 14 14 17 157 
Young 13 12 14 12 15 16 14 13 15 11 13 20 168 
Shepardson 14 14 13 11 13 19 15 12 12 14 11 16 164 
Myrick 11 12 13 12 14 18 15 12 14 11 10 14 156 
. Barto 8 12 13 14 11 16 14 13 12 14 15 17 159 
Burnham 8 10 14 10 13 16 13 12 12 14 14 18 154 
Tosetti 11 13 14 14 15 18 13 12 14 13 12 14 163 
Willard 13 14 12 11 14 18 15 11 14 14 13 18 167 
Cadwallader 9 15 13 14 15 15 14 15 15 13 13 18 169 
Molle 9 13 13 13 14 16 13 15 15 13 15 18 167 
Wilson 3 11 12 10 9 14 8 13 12 10 13 12 127 ' 
Vance 11 12 14 15 11 15 10 12 13 14 13 19 160 
Losee 10 14 11 12 13 12 
Davis : 7 12 12 10 11 15 12 10 11 11 10 17 138 
Johnson 8 13 13 11 11 14 9 10 12 
Kneussl 11 12 12 13 11 18 10 14 9 11 11 17 149 
Hanagan 11 11 9 7 13 18 11 14 13 13 13 18 151 
Engstrom 10 11- 9 11 
In Other Plac^. 
There were twenty-five shooters at Plainville, Minn., and the 
shoot for the merchandise, wherein all over 50 per cent, men were 
barred, was the feature, together with the team shoot, that drew 
and held the crowd. .Plainview was a winner. of the team shoot. 
Johnson, the mainstay of the Minneapolis, Minn., Gun Club, 
made the very fine score of 90 out of lOO. The Class A, B, and 
C medals were won by Johnson, Linden and Mrs. Johnson.^ 
A wag sends in the following: "If the quail that are hidden in 
the heather knew of the wonderful marksmanship, of the members 
of the gun club, and that they are being educated to- shoot only 
on the wing, they would make their migrating and other trips 
on foot only when the shooting season opens." 
The "good word" is passed along the line that the Magan Gun 
Club, Sterling, 111., will shoot often this year for the medal which 
is now held by W. L. McWhorter. 
Quincy, 111., Gun Club will begin active shooting very soon. It 
has new grounds at Baldwin Park. New officers will be ap- 
pointed, and a committee will have charge of arrangements for a 
tournament, which will be held soon. 
The public is invited to attend the shoots held by the Freeport, 
111., Gun Club.- All the members are working hard to get up 
interest. 
The business men of Babbell and Lake Linden, Mich., have 
formed a gun club. The shoots will occur on Wednesdays and 
Saturdays, and special shoots may be held almost any day. The 
officers are: President, Thomas W. Armstrong; Vice-President, 
John B. Hodges; Secretary, Samuel James; Treasurer, Lincoln 
Burgan. 
poo4 news comes frow Ijogansport, Ind,, that the gvm cliib }§ 
flourishing and that regular meets will be held at the driving 
park. Newly elected officers are: J. F. Flanegin, President; 
Clint Whitesell, Captain; Theo. Sample, Secretary. Three new 
members were elected, viz.: F. S, Freeman, Rino Kuhn and 
D. Ulery. Robert Rohler was voted a life member. 
The target smashers of California are much in earnest over 
the activity of the gun clubs and the number of tournaments held 
in the Golden State. 
At the regular shoot of the gun club at Akron, O., Mr. R. 
Griffith defended the champion badge and won over R. Kepler. 
Both made extra good scores of 49 out of 50. In the sweep that 
followed, G. S. Work won first, with J. F. Kepler second. 
Alf. Gardiner, of Brenham, Tex., is now busy arranging tour- 
naments in several of the cities of the Lone Star State. He will 
hold a novel shoot in Houston in July, and the money will be 
divided per cent, plan, 40, 24, 16 and 20, thus the fourth money 
will be more than the third. The prominent idea is to hold the 
amateur. 
Here is another Milwaukee gun club, the Big Stone. The scores 
at last shoot: Otto PL Gaulke 19, Bruse 22, Bille 19, J. Schultz 
20, Braves 12, Hackerdorn 19, A. Schultz 15. 
Notices were sent out through the local papers that W. Tramp 
Brown, a celebrity in shooting circles, would manage a shoot to 
be held by the local gun club. 
Garfield Gun Club. 
Chicago, 111., Jan. 17. — The appended scores were made on our 
grounds to-day on the occasion of the second trophy shoot of 
the second series. Eaton and Dr. Meek tied for Class A trophy 
on 21. Dr. Reynolds won . Class B on 19, and George won Class 
C on 15. 
In the Dupont cup shoot. Keck, Dr. Meek and Geotter tied 
on 19 out of 20 for Class A. Ford won Class B on 17, and 
Ostendorp won Class C on 12. 
After the trophy shoots were finished. Keck and Ford captained 
teams formed by choosing sides, and in the first match Keek's 
team won by two targets. In the second match Ford's team 
W'on by one target.. 
The day was hot and windy until about 4 o'clock, when a very 
heavy rainstorm came on and put a stop to the game for about 
an hour. Afterward it cleared up and became unusually fine for 
shooting. Attendance only fair, only about eighteen shooters 
showing up. 
Events: 1 2 3 4 5 6 
Targets : 10 15 10 10 25 20 
Keck 9 7 .. 10 17 19 
Thomas 5 7 . . 9 20 17 
Dr Reynolds... 10 8 .. 8 19 17 
Eaton 8 8 . . 9 21 16 
Gould 5 7 13 18 
Goetter 4 -8 16 19 
Stone 7 5 15 14 
McDonald 5 6 19 15 
Professional high average, 420 targets: 
Faurote 388 Waters 323 
Chaudet 373 Kaufman 301 
Amateurs: 
Events: 1 2 3 4 5 6 
Targets : 10 15 10 10 25 20 
A Smedes 5 9 20 14 
T Smedes 6 7 14 14 
Dr Meek 9 21 19 
Ford 3 16 17 
George 15 6 
Bryson 15 
Ostendorp 12 
No. 5, trophy event. No. 6, Dupont cup. 
Team match, 10 targets: 
Keck 9 
Thomas 10 
Geotter 6 
Reynolds 5 
McDonald 10 
Gould 7 
George 9 
Bryson 8- 
Team match, 15 targets: 
Keck 13 
Eaton 9 
McDonald 15 
Gould 11 
George 13 
Bryson 14 
Snyder 13- 
Ford 9 
Meek 10 
Eaton 9 
Stone 8 
Ostendorp 4 
T Smedes 5 
A Smedes .• 10 
-64 Snyder 5—60 
Ford 14 
Meek 15 
Eaton 12 
Stone 14 
Ostendorp 8 
T Smedes 14 
-88 A Smedes 12—89 
Gulf Coast Trapshootefs* League. 
New Orleans, La.— The Gulf Coast Trapshooters' League 
tournament was held at Chef Menteur, under the auspices of the 
Tallyho Gun Club, of New Orleans. The elegantly equipped 
establishment and cuisine were much appreciated by the visitors. 
Among the guests of the club during the day's shoot were the 
following: Gus Cantrelle, W. F. Trenchard, J. W. Finern, Ed. 
Saucier, John Spring, L. P. Chaudet, Lewis Bamberger, M. IToff- 
man, Maurice Kaufman, Guy Macmurdo, ply. Rightor, E. Baylin, 
Frank Sintes, Chas. Hagen, Ed. PIcrndon, C. S. Harris, Robt. 
Saucier, A. Biron, Geo. BrOokman, Capt. J. K. Turley, John 
Nolan, Chas. McEnery, Chas. Sinnott. W. A. Cocke, L. Gerdies, 
Jos. Demoine, G. Sintes, Plenry Burke, W. W. Wooldridge, J. A. 
Landry, P. J. Robelot, John N. Riley, H. C. Carroll, H. Lee 
Sinnott, Lewis Chaudet, T. L. Mason, Jr., Wm. Week, H. Wallace, 
Geo. Viavant, New Orleans; Wm. Gordon, Thos. Chamberlain, 
Mobile, Ala.; M. Scanel, J. L. Bryan, Shreveport, La.; M. Cox, 
Detroit, Mich.; Frank Faurote, Dallas, Tex.; Walter Kent, A. 
Macket, Kentwood, La.; A. D. Krebs, E. Jane, J. R. Ford, W. 
D. Bullard, Scranton, Miss; H. Waters, V. L. Fulton, John 
Sewell, Baltimore, Md. ; J. Shaw, Pass Christian, Miss.; J. K. 
Fendick, San Antonio, Tex.; A. W. Bouslagel, C. H. Cunning- 
ham, Jack Kennedy, J. L. Kecunny, W. Hemmingway, Dr. J. E. 
Kam, 'li. A. Hemohill, Hattlesburg, Miss.; S. G. Harry, New 
Iberia, La. ; D. VV. Breazile, Natchitoches, La. ; Dr. Lament, 
Biloxi, Miss; S. D. Thayer, S. P. Norch, Bond, Miss.^ 
As will be seen by the total scores, which follow, Sligo led the 
amateurs and experts in the two days' shooting, with a score of 
388 out of a possible 420, while F. M, Faurote, of Dallas, headed 
the experts with 383 out of a possible 420. The shooting was con- 
sidered particularly good, in view of the fact that the weather was 
exceedingly warm and trying to the marksmen. The tables, show- 
ing the result of each day's shooting in detail, and the summing 
up of final results, high average, follow : 
First Day, June J2, 
Events: 123456789 10 
Targets : ' 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 25 25 Total. 
Faurote 19 18 18 17 19 19 19 18 21 25 192 
Cox 17 14 17 19 18 18 16 17 19 22 182 
Plemingway 11 16 16 17 15 19 15 19 18 21 166 
Bowles 12 18 17 18 16 17 16 16 19 22 171 
Chaudet 19 17 19 19 19 17 18 18 21 23 190 
Macmurdo 17 18 17 17 18 18 16 16 20 22 179 
North 17 18 16 18 17 20 12 13 15 18 164 
Waters 15 18 19 19 17 19 14 12 20 22 175 
Chamberlain 20 14 19 16 12 16 16 15 22 23 173 
Sligo 19 20 18 18 20 18 20 18 23 23 197 
Saucier 19 20 20 16 15 19 18 20 23 24 194 
Caddo 18 18 17 19 15 15 18 18 18 24 180 
Breazeale 19 14 20 20 19 18 18 19 19 20 191 
Bryan 18 15 17 19 16 19 17 16 22 23 182 
Bonslagle 14 12 17 16 11 11 11 11 19 15 137 
Kearny . -. 15 14 12 12 14 14 10 16 16 17 137 
Kennedy 6 13 6 7 5 9 6 8 12 10 82 
Cunningham 8 16 11 17 10 14 13 15 18 17 139 
Trinchard 17 15 19 17 16 17 12 17 18 18 165 
Cocke 15 17 18 19 13 19 17 18 21123 180 
Kaufman 12 16 16 15 15 20 10 17 23 14 - 164 
Lee 15 15 15 18 IS 20 18 15 22 21 177 
Lionett - 16 13 12 17 10 18 18 16 23 17 , 107 
Second Day, June J3. 
Events: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 
Targets • 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 25 25 Total. 
Bonslagle 9 12 13 10 14 15 15 12 17 16 132 
Bowles 17 18 18 13 14 13 17 14 18 20 142 
Kidder 5 5 3 5 9 6 12 18 20 7 90 
Lee 17 18 12 16 16 16 17 14 21 22 169 
Kearny 13 14 14 12 15 13 15 14 22 15 147 
Chaudet 18 19 17 18 18 14 15 20 24 23 186 
Macmurdo 17 18 18 19 19 18 18 18 23 20 188 
Faurote 18 18 18 19 16 17 18 19 25 23 191 
Waters 12 16 18 18 14 16 12 17 17 8 148 
Chamberlin 16 14 13 17 17 12 16 11 19 23 , 158 
Sligo 16 16 19 18 18 18 18 19 24 25 .186 
Breazeale 17 20 18 18 15 20 1616 25 21^ 191 
Saucier 17 19 17 17 17 17 19 15 23 25 184 
Caddo 15 18 17 17 16 17 18 17 18 21 174 
Brvan 19 IS 15 17 18 18 18 18 25 24 190 
Kaufman 7 15 15 13 13 9 13 15 20 IS 137 
Cocke 13 12 16 17 18 18 19 18 22 20 169 
Lionett ^ 17 13 13 17 15 19 16 17 20 22 169 
O'Trigger 16 13 13 14 18 17 13 18 16 20 158 
Spring »,,,,..«♦. t . I r r !»"»"•'• Jl 9 ^ ^-l 13 7 13 ? ^ ^■ 190 
Sligo 388 
Saucier 378 
Breazeale 377 
Bryan 372 
Macmurdo 367 
Lee 316 
Lionett 336 
Chamberlin S31 
Bowles 313 
Kearny 284 
Caddo 3-54 Bonslagle 269 
Cocke .;il9 Kidder 172 
Ttap Around Reading. 
Reading, Pa., June 17. — The target tournament of the Spring 
Valley Shooting Association of this city, held to-day, on the As- 
sociation's shooting ground at Bernhart Station, just outside the 
city limits, was a success, with a large crowd of sportsmen in 
attendance. Lee Wertz, of the Spring Valley Association, was 
high gun with 160 broke out of 210 targets. R. E. Shearer, of 
Carlisle, finished second, with J. W. Wertz third. The high wind 
made the targets very hard, and kept the scores below the average. 
The scores follow: 
Events: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 
Targets : 10 15 15 15 10 15 20 15 15 15 15 15 15 20 
L Wertz 5 14 11 12 13 11 13 14 13 11 14 11 14 14 
Shearer 8 11 9 9 8 12 17 10 9 11 12 14,12 16 
Shaneman 7 11 10 11 8 9 16 9 9 10 11 
J W Wertz 6 9 9 7 5 11 14 11 14 11 11 13 11 15 
Swoyer 8 9 14 10 9 10 15 7 8 10 11 10 10 10 
Moyen 9 9 9 9 7 7 11 .. 11 12 10 11 10 . . 
Blecker 7 8 11 12 7 10 15 
Fred Wertz 7 12 17 12 11 10 11 11 9 12 
Adams 12 13 12 11 10 10 .. U 13 
Schaeffer 14 13 8 13 12 12 11 15 
Wagman 16 11 9 9 10 10 10 16 
Bortz . . 14 4 7 10 10 6 7 13 
Pottstown, Pa., June 10. — The Shuler Shooting Club defeated the 
Hill School Gun Club in a 50-target match, Saturday, on the 
grounds of the former. Summaries: 
Shuler Club: Scheffy 39, Fields 36, Smith 39, Rhoads 33; 
total 147. 
Hill School: Wodell 44, Hannah 23, Talcott 35, Hartley 28; 
total 130. 
Reading, Pa., June 17.^ — The Elm Leaf Gun Club held its annual 
election for officers, with this result: President, George Eck; 
Secretary, George IS. Dry; Treasurer, John Weitzel; Trustees, 
Aug. G. Hepler, Geo. Heilman and William Eisenhower; Captain, 
Amos Weitzel. " . 
Trustee Plepler reported that the new club house of the organi- 
zation, which is located along the Gravity road, a short distance 
from Kuechler's Roost, had been finished. It is one story in 
height, made of frame, and contains two rooms — one for dining 
purposes, and the other as a stock room, where the targets and 
other paraphernalia of the club will be stored. 
The jiroperty comprises about three acres. Tables and benches 
have been placed about the grounds for outing parties. The club 
has a membership of 47. 
Berwyn, Pa., June 10. — The Berwyn Gvm Club was organized 
to-day with fifty members. About twenty-five participated in the 
shoot on the new grounds over the new trap put in. Robert Hol- 
land, in event 3, broke 25 straight; Pechin 24, Garber 23, Joseph 
Holland 22, Ruth, Playcock and Roberts. Pechin was high gun in 
all events. Duster. 
IN NEW JERSEY. 
Montclair Gun Club. 
MoNTCLAiR, N. J., June 17. — The contest for the trophy pf 1905, 
a silver loving cup, to be shot for each month during thei year, 
that had been postponed from the last Saturday in May, Was run 
off to-day. This is a handicap event, 50 targets, at unknown 
angles, and was won by PI. A. Connett, who broke 38; this, with 
his handicap of 10, gave him a score of 48, with Cockefair a close 
second with a score of 47 to^ his- credit. 
Event No. 6, prize a box of Havanas, was won by Mr. Howard, 
with 24 breaks to his credit. 
Events 1 to 5 were for practice only. 
Events: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 
Targets: 10 15 10 10 15 25 50 
T Doremus, 14 -6 .. 10 5 .. 13 45 
G Boxall, 4 8 11 8 .. 13 20 36 
C L Bush, 2 10 12 .. 9 . . 20 42 
E Winslow, 4 5 7 .. .. 8 15 36 
G Porter, 4 ..10 5 7 7 .. 34 
P Cockefair, 4 7 15 .. 8 14 19 47 
A R Allan, 4 13 7 10 12 22 43 
H F Holloway, 12 5 .. 12 17 46 
G Howard, 2 8 12 24 44 
H F Connett, 10 .. .. 48 
nandicaps apply in event 7 only. 
Peetless Rod and Gun Club. 
Paterson, N. J., June 17. — In an event at 25 targets to-day, the 
scores were' as follows: P. Garrabrant 8, J. Schrier 13, G. Her- 
man 14. 
Second event, 25 targets: P. Garrabrant 16, J. Schrier 12, G. 
Herman 17. 
Third event, 25 targets: G. Herman 13, P. Garrabrant 16. 
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