Ixxiv 
Monthly  Council,  December  7,  1904. 
decide  definitely  that  day  to  hold  a 
Show ; but  he  did  feel  that  if  a 
sufficiently  large  sum  were  obtained 
they  would  be  in  a position  to  say 
that  the  Show  should  be  held. 
Mr.  Ransome  said  that  a guarantee 
of  10,000/.  had  been  asked  for  so  that 
there  should  be  no  loss  in  connection 
with  the  holding  of  the  Show  in  1905. 
He  was  of  the  opinion  that  they  had 
not  quite  come  to  the  end  of  what 
would  be  promised  towards  this  sum. 
This  was  the  idea  he  gathered  upon 
going  round  to  the  exhibitors  of 
implements  at  the  Cattle  Show  now 
being  held  at  Islington.  With  regard 
to  last  year’s  Show,  the  loss  over  it 
was  7,000/.,  and  for  the  Show  of  1905 
they  had  already  promises  of  over 
5,000/.,  and  there  was  no  probability 
that  the  Society  would  lose  more  than 
7,000/.  next  year.  It  had  already 
been  arranged  that  reductions  should 
be  made  in  connection  with  the  1905 
Show,  notably  in  respect  of  the 
advertising,  and  he  had  no  doubt  that 
a saving  of  at  least  1,500/.  could  be 
effected  under  this  head  for  the  1905 
Show.  He  had  no  personal  interest 
to  serve  in  advocating  the  holding  of 
the  Show  in  1905,  and  was  only 
speaking  in  what  he  believed  to  be 
the  best  interests  of  the  Society,  for 
he  thought  it  would  be  a very  un- 
fortunate thing  if  the  Society  had  a 
break  of  even  one  year  in  connection 
with  the  holding  of  its  Shows.  The 
Society  already  possesserl  a site  upon 
which  a great  deal  of  money  had  been 
spent,  and  he  felt  that  the  promises 
of  over  5,000/.  which  they  had  would 
cover  any  loss  on  a Show  next  year. 
London  was  different  from  provincial 
towns,  because  in  the  latter  large 
employers  of  labour  could  be  called 
upon  to  give  their  workpeople  a half- 
holiday, and  sometimes  they  also  paid 
for  them  to  visit  the  Show.  It 
therefore  seemed  very  desirable  that 
Londoners  should  have  an  opportunity 
of  attending  their  Show  when  there 
was  a public  holiday,  as  would  be  the 
case  if  Whit-Monday  were  included 
in  the  Show-week  of  1905.  For  these 
reasons,  and  because  they  had  not  got  to 
the  end  of  their  promises  of  subscrip- 
tions, he  was  against  giving  up  the  idea 
of  holding  a Show  in  1905,  until  the 
matter  was  completely  threshed  out. 
Mr.  Pell  asked  whether  he  was 
right  in  assuming  that  it  was  intended 
to  organise  a Show  with  only  5,000/. 
guaranteed.  In  his  opinion  it  would 
be  a disastrous  thing  to  attempt  an 
enterprise  like  the  Show  with  inade- 
quate means,  and  ask  the  guarantors 
to  sink  their  money.  He  suggested 
that  they  should  stand  to  their  guns, 
and  if  they  could  get  10,000/.  have  a 
Show,  but  if  they  could  not  raise  that 
sum  they  should  not  have  it. 
Sir  Nigel  Kingscote  was  ex- 
tremely sorry  to  have  to  differ  from 
Lord  Derby,  as  they  all  knew  the 
great  assistance  he  had  rendered  to 
the  Society,  but  he  did  feel  most 
strongly  that  if  the  Show  were 
abandoned  without  further  effort  on 
the  part  of  the  Society  considerable 
harm  would  be  done.  Things  went 
very  fast  in  these  days,  and  if  they 
had  no  Show  for  two  years  the  Society 
would  lose  a large  number  of  Members, 
and  it  would  put  off  exhibitors  of 
stock  and  implements  from  their 
Shows.  Buyers  came  from  abroad 
and  also  from  the  Colonies,  and  they 
chose  their  time  so  that  they  could 
attend  the  Society’s  Shows.  The 
exhibitors  of  live  stock  would  lose 
by  not  having  the  foreigners  and 
colonials  at  the  Royal  Show.  If  the 
Members  pulled  together,  and  more 
especially  if  the  Life  Members  who 
had  been  on  their  books  for  a good 
many  years  came  to  their  help,  matters 
would  improve.  With  regard  to  the 
Guarantee  Fund  even  if  they  did 
not  hold  a Show,  they  must  still  have 
expenses.  They  had  up  to  the  present 
5,000/.  guaranteed,  and  if  between  this 
and  January  they  obtained  further 
sums  he  was  of  opinion  that  they 
should  hold  a Show,- as  he  could  not 
help  thinking  that  if  they  gave  up 
the  Show  it  would  be  giving  up  the 
Society  altogether. 
Mr.  Cornwallis  observed  that  he 
should  like  to  know  exactly  how 
matters  stood.  To  him  it  appeared 
that  there  was  really  nothing  incon- 
sistent between  Lord  Derby’s  proposal 
and  that  of  Mr.  Sanday.  If  he  were 
asked  to  vote  that  day  “Aye”  and 
“No”  on  the  promises  of  5,000/.  he 
should  certainly  vote  with  Lord 
Derby.  But  if  between  now  and  next 
January  the  Society  had  received 
