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Ch. Gipsy Bob 
Retriever of over two thousand ducks and is prob- 
ably the only living champion of his breed. Pups 
sired by Ch. Gipsy Bob now for sale. We are 
dealers of finest pedigreed stock exclusively. Chesa- 
peakes are not only the best of retrievers, but are 
also excellent watchdogs and children's com- 
panions. 
GALE HARPER, Proprietor 
Bloomfield Kennels Short Hills, N. J. 
BROKEN POINTERS 
j For Sale 
Both dogs and bitches from fine 
stock. Also Pups. Prices right. 
Beautiful in color and appearance; 
excellent hunters. 
Doffs or bitches sent on trial. 
Sam S. Bowman Sikeston, Mo. 
Cocker Spaniels Both Puppies and 
For Xmas Gifts Dogs 
Suitable for show or field purposes. 
No dog excels the cocker for the 
borne. Spry, affectionate, andfaith- 
ful. We have blacks, reds, and part- 
colored. What kind do you want? 
We must have it. 
Nomid Chief Crow, A.K.C. 270059. 
at stud. Solid black. The son of a 
champion. Inquiries solicited. Ca- 
talog of Guns, Tackle and Cockers 
eenton request with stamps. 
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96 Chambers St., New York City 
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H. CLAY GLOVER CO., Inc. 
1 2 9 West 24lh Street, New York 
Shooting Dogs Solicited 
AND CAREFULLY TRAINED 
Private preserve with plenty of birds 
Terms $15 per monvh 
RUFUS BARNETT 
MATHEWS, ALABAMA. Express Office; Pike Road, Ala. 
the disposition to hunt well ahead, rather 
than to look for game close by. 
It usually happens that the physical 
type of the setter is a good index of his 
temperament. The dog of good sub- 
stance is likely to have a gentle disposi- 
tion that induces him to go steadily and 
at the same time give some thought to 
his handler. At any rate, the cover dog 
should have a temperament that would 
so allow him to adjust himself to the 
things required of him that he will al- 
ways be a well-mannered dog. 
The larger type of Llewellin setters 
owned and bred in many parts of the 
North have been used so many years in 
an inclosed or rough country that they 
have maintained a physical and psychical 
type differing materially from their rela- 
tives which are run in the trials of the 
South. They would readily lend them- 
selves to the development of a new strain 
under anything like organized effort. 
They are unfit for modern field-trials 
and continue to become more and more 
like some of the best native strains we 
knew in New England before we began 
importing field-trial setters from Eng- 
land and developing them to suit the 
Southern ideal. 
Before the Civil War. and for a short 
period after the importation of field-trial 
setters began in 1874, we had in New 
England a very superior strain of New 
England setters, bred by Ethan Allen, of 
Pomfret, Connecticut, and Stephen Pack- 
er, of Packersville, Connecticut. These 
dogs, known through our New England 
as Webster Setters, were descended 
from Rachel, imported by Daniel Web- 
ster, and Packer’s Phil, an exceptionally 
good cover dog. These setters were bred 
for years to woodcock and ruffed grouse 
shooting, and in the course of time be- 
came the largest single group of bird 
dogs in New England. They took on a 
form and disposition that fitted them for 
the peculiar work they were called upon 
to do. They were not as typical as an 
inbred group that could qualify as a 
breed, but they were in general near 
enough alike so that they might be dis- 
tinguished from other setters. We have 
had no setters since their day that com- 
pare with them as New England shoot- 
ing dogs. 
This is mentioned to show what has 
been done without any organized effort 
at scientific breeding. With the avail- 
able stock of setters at hand, dogs of 
undoubted breeding, it would appear that 
with our better knowledge of breeding 
laws it would be a comparatively simple 
matter to establish a much-needed strain 
of setters that would be true to type and 
surpass in cover-dog quality the Webster 
Setter of fifty years ago. 
THE CARP 
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Feb. 3rd, 1881, to July 28th, 1881, Vol 16 
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9 E. 40th STREET NEW YORK CITY 
H aving been a continuous reader of 
Forest and Stream for some years, 
I believe it is one of the best outdoor 
magazines I have read. 
After having read several articles 
written on carp fish and methods used 
in catching them, I agree with other 
In writing to Advertisers mention Forest and Stream. It will 
Forest and Strea^ 
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writers in regards to small sinkers and 
not too large a hook. I have fished sev- 
eral years in the small streams of Kan' 
sas (some not so small), and believe that 
a four-pound bass will not beat a four- 
pound carp for speed and strength for a 
little while, although the carp soon plays 
out in his hard rushes. 
It is no easy matter to land a large one 
like six to ten pounds or higher. Because 
of their tender mouth they will tear out 
the hold if held too tight. ) 
M^e catch carp here mostly on worms,' 
sweet corn (in the milk) and doughballs/ 
During the hot summer months of 
July and August, while most other fish 
are taking their vacation from biting, 
the carp will furnish us plenty of sport. 
Recently I was fortunate enough to' 
land one that tipped the scales at eight 
and one-half pounds. I have been told 
that they have been running as high as 
eighteen pounds on rod and reel, but 
have never seen it done. 
Here is hoping I have the chance some 
day, as I thought eight and one-half 
pounds of fighting energy for about fif- 
teen minutes was verj'^ good sport. 
N. E. Fairlech, Kans. 
Dear Forest and Stream : 
I N your August issue of Forest and 
^ Stream I read Mr. Louis Rhead’s ac- 
count of the carp as a gamy food fish. 
I live about a half mile from Lodge- 
pole Creek, where there are many carp 
running from one - quarter pound to 
fourteen pounds apiece. 
I would like to have Mr. Rhead here if 
he enjoys fishing for carp. I will agree 
with him when he says they are a wary 
fish, but that is all I can allow them. I 
have lived in this community for six- 
teen years, and up to twelve or thirteen 
years ago we didn’t know what a carp 
was. But we had plenty of bass, perch 
and channel cat. About thirteen years 
ago three or four of the big landowners 
along the creek bottom stocked the 
stream with carp. And the result is that 
we haven’t anything but carp. 
I have tried to eat them numerous 
times, but I can’t do it. And I don’t 
believe it was the cook’s fault that I 
couldn’t. 
I, for one, would be in favor of killing 
every carp in the country if it was pos- 
sible, because they certainly ruin the 
real fishing. 
Harry E. Schroll, 
Nebraska. 
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