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FOREST AND STREAM 
February, 1920 
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JANUARY Forest and Stream CON- 
CERNING DUCKS AND GULLS 
O RDINARILY gulls do not interfere 
with ducks in any way and the ducks 
pay no attention to gulls. Nothing is 
more usual than to see a few big gulls 
light in among a flock of black ducks. 
It is also very improbable that ducks 
would mistake a gull for some dangerous 
bird of prey. They are too clever for 
that. Nevertheless our correspondent’s 
deduction from his observation recorded 
in the January Forest and Stream that 
flocks of duck were disturbed by gulls is 
probably correct. In the published Pro- 
ceedings of the Linnaean Society of New 
York, we find that at the meeting of 
January 22, 1918, “Mr. Cleaves said he 
had found it a regular practice with 
herring gulls, especially when their own 
chief feeding grounds were flooded to 
worry diving-ducks, golden-eyes, scaups 
and bufdeheads .” At the previous meet- 
ing it was reported by Mr. Hix that he 
and Mr. Pell “had watched a herring gull 
worrying three golden-eyes on the water, 
ivhich dove to escape the annoyance. 
[Editors.] 
GOOD POINTS TO BE 
CONSIDERED 
(CONTINUED from page 65) 
country like a seasoned veteran, and his 
style was superb, not only on point, but 
also in action — Ben came flitting along 
the edge of the woods and then, casting 
over into a pasture, he went to the 
farthest end and pointed — pointed with 
all the style and character of what is an 
idealization of one’s mind, but seldom 
seen in reality — those who saw him here 
will carry the picture of his points in 
their memory as long as time lasts.” 
Mary Montrose ran second to the 
great little dog’ — What a picture the 
teaming of this brace in the second series 
would have made. 
We hope Mr. Rosseau may be induced 
to paint a great Field Trial picture — 
for to those of us who love the dog — 
he shows to his best advantage in keen 
competition against a background of 
rolling prairie or Southern stubble field. 
Steady ! 
SOME GOSSIP ON OUR 
HUNTING DOGS 
(continued from page 57) 
family is hunted regularly in the Penn- 
sylvania hills. The Albert’s Mallwyd 
Mixture dog.s are often good ones, get- 
ting their share of the Connecticut 
grouse shooting. Victor Bo’, Count Okaw 
and Grouse Bo’, (winners of the New 
York state grouse trials), will give one 
a good selection of pups. La Besita is 
another example of a high-class bench 
dog that had not forgotten how to hunt, 
for she was one of our recent national 
champicns. 
I T is regrettable that lack of space pre- 
vents more than the merest mention 
of the Irish Setters. For a hardy 
salt water dog, and a good one on both 
grouse and quail, the Irishman has much 
to recommend him. He is somewhat 
hard to see in the woods, and tradition 
has it that he requires to be re-broken 
every year, but, like many traditions, 
there is not much to it. In England 
they win in field trials right along with 
the English setters. That they do not 
win here seems to imply lack of speed, 
compared to the racehorse Llewellins. 
They are certainly heavier-bodied, but, 
for an all-around dog, easy to keep clean 
and looking respectable, they are hard 
to beat. The St. Cloud, Law, Culbertson, 
Rheola and Morty Oge dogs make good 
field hunters among them. 
Coming to the pointers, we will try' to 
fix the connection between those famous 
today with the champs of yesteryear, 
whose names you will most likely find in 
dog books. In 1916 the point winners 
were Lewis C. Morris, John Proctor, Sil- 
ver Sides, Security, Comanche Frank, 
Rags Royal Pauper and King Cy. Again 
we hold up our hands aghast — who are 
all these celebrities! In our dog book 
we got the impression that Fishel’s 
Frank, Manitoba Rap, Hard Cash, and 
Alford’s John represented the cream of 
pointerdem, being the champs of 10 
years ago, but what relation are they to 
these new-comers? Well, it is the old 
case of “blood will tell.” Lewis C. Mor- 
ris is by Fishel’s Frank ex. Bessatina; 
John Proctor, Fishel’s Frank-Miss Ma- 
riutch ; Silver Sides, Manitoba Rap- 
King’s Sister; Security, Hard Cash ex. 
Alford’s Royal Rags; Comanche Frank, 
Fishel’s Frank-Lady Johns, a daughter 
cf Alford’s John; Rags Royal Pauper, 
Hard Cash ex. Alford’s Royal Rags; 
King Cy, John’s King ex. Bird’s Dakota 
Pride, a descendant of King Cyrano. 
Here we have two generations, reach- 
ing back ten years, ar.d covering the 
champions of today and of the last de- 
cade. To go on back from there to their 
English forebears, the five-generation 
pedigree, herewith of Rags Royal Pau- 
rer, will take us nearly back to Bang, 
the father of all modern pointers. The 
pedigree gives the lines of two very 
famous dogs, Hard Cash and Alford’s 
John. Of the other two, Manitoba Rap 
is by Ripple ex. Lady Cyrano, Ripple 
being a grandson of Rip Rap, and Lady 
Cyrano a daughter of King Cyrano, 
Fishel’s Frank is by Fishel’s Rip Rap ex. 
