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its duty to administer its grant program . Enforcement 
of the guidelines cannot be left to the IBC's and the 
institutional benef ic iar ies of the grants. There is 
an obvious conflict of interest. Instead, NIII should 
allocate sufficient funds toward the administration of 
its grant program, providing for personnel and equipment 
to inspect grantees. If NIH sponsors this research with 
public funds, it has a duty to that public to ensure that 
recipients of grants comply strictly with the rules. 
The Hew York otate lav; requires state oversight 
and inspection. The federal government should do no less. 
MR. LIBASSI: Thank you very much. 
Mo. FEINBEKG: Would you like copies, or should 
I leave them on the desk? 
MR. LIBASSI: I think we have gotten copies of 
your statement already. Thank you. 
Norton Zinder is next. And I take it that 
Dr. Szybalski is not here. 
DR. ZINDER: I am Norton Zinder. I am Professor 
of Molecular Genetics at the Rockefeller University. I 
also happen to be a member of the old boy network, so I 
am going to make a rather personal statement. Old boys 
are allowed to do that. 
Almost five years ago, I was a member of the 
committee generally known as Berg et al., whose actions 
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