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1 the whole concern about the hazards of recombinant DNA 
2 is out of order. 
3 I submit that anybody who had any experience 
4 in the setting of industrial standards, such as asbestos 
5 or vinyl chloride or anything like that, reading these 
6 guidelines, would immediately recognize the absence of 
7 the separation of the intrinsic hazard and the ability 
8 to contain it. 
9 Therefore, I very much support the expanding 
10 of the technical basis of the RAC in this area. 
11 Now, three, I would like to go to this 
12 question of--You know, if you read the regulatory 
13 literature — for example, in asbestos — it is an old 
14 thing in which a committee appoints some independent, 
15 outside committee who -- okay — quickly, the Ascot 
10 Committee. 
17 Twenty-nine individuals appointed by the NIH 
18 through a process I don't know — very respected virologists 
19 many of them colleagues of mine. They met in private in 
20 England. They didn't even notify the British committee, 
21 GMAG; the report was not published; it wasn't published 
22 in the Journal of Virology , it wasn't published in Virology , 
23 it wasn't referreed — Recently I was at the International 
24 Congress of Virology, where I chaired a workshop on virus 
25 assembly. There were 1,500 virologists there. This report- 
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