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DR. FREDRICKSON: I think you are pursuing a very difficult legal 
point . 
MR. HUTT: In other words, are you worrying about a problem that is 
taken care of under other statutes, or are those agencies saying they aren't 
going to have anything to do with commercialization of this, which I am not 
aware of. 
DR. FREDRICKSON: I think that is really too difficult for us to pursue 
at this time. 
MR. HUTT: Okay, but I wanted to get at the heart of the problem. 
DR. FREDRICKSON: I understand. 
MR. HUTT: If the problem is that we have got to energize other regu- 
latory agencies, that is one thing. If the problem is, on the other hand, 
that you are just worried about small amounts being slightly increased for 
additional research, that is a different question. 
MS. PFUND: I am concerned about both of those areas, because, as I 
mentioned, there is some question as to how to apply the regulations of 
these other agencies to private industry. And also, since there is no law 
now that requires private industry to follow any guidelines, we are relying 
on trust for them. 
MR. HUTT: For the research, yes. But again — 
MS. PFUND: Well, the research is in the private sector as well. 
MR. HUTT: Yes, but your point was the increase in production leading 
to commercialization, I thought. Maybe I misheard. 
MS. PFUND: It is not an immediate step. I am just saying that it is 
the start of creating the atmosphere for commercial use of this technique, 
and that is something that will require a lot more discussion on how to apply 
these precautions for safety to commercial exploitation of the technique. 
DR. FREDRICKSON: I think it will require much more discussion. I 
agree with you; it is a difficult point. 
Dr. Ahmed. 
DR. AHMED: Let me 
here. I think what you 
may have any bearing on 
trol Act you know there 
with this a little bit, 
try to see if I can respond to Peter Hutt's question 
are concerned about is how the other Ftederal statutes 
DNA recombinant work. Under the Toxic Substances Con- 
is a premarket notification procedure. I am familiar 
so maybe I will just address this. 
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