FOPT'.fiT AND STREAM? 
243 
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rille matters, was for a second time the winner. 
Capt. w. n. Livermore k A & Per it « 
J- '!• Teacme $ p. H. Holton «« 
3. It. Grohman „„ 
C. It. Eagle... 
P. McMorrow. 
so .1. n. it. Bagley 
29 J. W. Maogaiu 
It Fisher 
Fred Aid 
D F Davids 
s w s u>y 
A O neliwlg 
p Ixirillard, Jr 
W U Duulap 
F L SUeUluu 
G li Uiyiloiiborgn 
M A tail 
J SConlln 
K M Squler 
II W Uourlay 
McMorrow • - - - . I 11 W uouriay 
The Eighth Regiment Club members shot for the Douglass Dr Dudley 
2£«& Douglass Cup at 200 and 500 yards. _te„ shots JEi, .............. 
per'Sistaoce, with State model rille. Dr. G. D. Hobart took 
first place with 79 in the possible 100. 
Zkttlku Rifle GAI.LBUT.-At the weekly footing at 3^ 
Bowery, April 23, 100 feet, off-hand, at Creedraoor targets 
reduced, ten shots per man, possible fifty, the scores were . 

M K Sharp 
B Squires 
K Zlrninerraan 49 J 
C J Zetile W D Miner 
p Penning 
C Judson. 
K HunzIKcr... 
44 
44 
41 
H 
n oeh! 
seat looking at the target, which is in front of him, with a rod 
or lever close to bis hand. The bullet goes through the canvas 
and leaves a hole about half an inch in diameter. Ho then 
puis a disk on to the bottom part, showing the value of the 
shot, aud pushes the lever, which brings the target down like 
an awning over him, anti at the same tunc the disk goes up in 
lull view of the marksmen, lie hangs a small disk in the hole 
the bullet makes. He then pulls the lover, and up goes the 
target, so the marksmou not only sees the value of his shot by 
the first disk, but when the target goes up sees by a 9mall one 
the exact spot his shut has struck. The next mau shoots ; 
down comes the target, again the marker putting on a disk 
ns before. He takes out the little disk on the first shot, aud 
pastes a small patch on the hole, and puls tlio disk i nto the 
Inst hole made, and so on. They were tested last year at the 
Montreal matches, and, although not completed, gave tlio 
competitors the utmost satisfaction. have no hesitation in 
saying that they will be generally adopted before long, being 
h Newsham vice-rres. uuu a.. ~ — . - • . i so cheap, the iron work of one convertible Into first, second or 
nlrendv commenced their w<*k. The target is at the Carlisle lWrd clll8S c i ftS8| only costing $50. I have received from a 
Snrines Road giving practice of 1,000 yards. Practice will comm uiec appointed by the N. R. A , of New York, a letter 
take place every Thursday and Saturday. containing a proposal of holding at the annual meeting at 
R. R. C. 
Remington Rifi.k Association of Carl sls, Vx. T1 
new organization, of which V , T n W B^is Secre?ary, have 
H. Newsham, V.ce-Pres., «nd A. D B fjTtffiarlisle 
^ oum°ano e v.v.;;:: mbku>i. 
G A Sekurman. 
SS for distance. The following were the scores : 24 Sr^ible 50. and at 200 yards three of first pmes 
8 •••« -nf to members of the Deseret c ub 
Z. R. C. 
Roberts have taken 
beck and Mr. Jake Heusscr once each. 
At present it is held 
Oonmn'8 Gallbby, 1.222 Buoadw^, 2^-Oompeti- ^ andllie officers are : P "V. r ce-Pres • E. 
for BadgC ^ Y "° 1 ^ Ku d gbt?Joh d n J |b«ec«iivc 
by Mr M. M. Young The Deseret Club numbers 85 mem - 
«nri ii... officers are: Bolivar Roberts, Pres,, W. K- 

s W Sibley 49 
Dr Dudley 
LC Brace... 
C A Civ ever 
Fred Alder. 
D Banks ... 
J s Coulln. 
T Fltz. 
W U Dunlap. 
I yds. 
300 v<la 
.43 
48 
48 
46 
48 
46 
.40 
47 
48 
45 
44 
44 
43 
42 
43 
41 
41 
30 
39 
40 
39 
48 
31} 
3-1 
30 
36 
31 
j H Meeker 
K (4 BullgralT 
II Russell 
Hflvetia Rifle Club-Muzzle against BKKKcn-LnAD- 
An interesting ritle match took place at the Union 
n U^chLtzen P. k The Helvetia Rifle Club arranged a 
The following were the scores: 
« 
? T Toiler 1{ Weidmann \f 
^ « l0 H 1011 
$ Kier::.: ™ ™ * 1 
Total. — , , 
Average, 133 points. 
.1,019 
Total 1 > 60# 
Average, 179 poinia. 
New Youk— Saratoga Springs, April 19 —In the ®°roP etl * 
• tim i Kill of Anril for position on a team to 
aifeii!'"*®* 
{This is indeed a remarkable score.— Ed 1 
Telegraphic Match.— S aratoga v. Milwaukee.— Tins 
Pi 3’c 50-O la j. Wing, 44 : l Danfe^^Sy^s"; ’total 170. 
Grand total, 40S. The wind was blowing across the ranges 
and shifting. 
Committee. 
Sonora Rifle Club.-A rifle club has been organized at 
Sonora, CaL, with Joseph Phelps, Pres., S- »• ldfora > 
Vice-P/es. ; H. H. Rowell, Treas. ; and J. Shaw, Sec. 
Atbuuxt Rif..b Bahrkl,— T lic manufacturers ol tiro 
auxiliary rifle barrel of New Haven, bogus to inform the pub- 
lic in reply to numerous iuquiries made them, that they 
advise for use the Winchester Repeating Anns Co. s cart- 
ridge, No. 32 aud 38, extra long, and the No. 44, model 
1873. These cartridges give the most precise results. 
At Long Bowles.— Some recent Austrian experiments, 
gcd^Scient to have put all the guns hors dc combat. 
rifle in the dominion. 
Hamilton, Ontario, April 23, 1878. 
There has been nothing done in rifle shooting on this side 
all winter, and consequently but little of any importance m 
that way to write about. There have been several pigeon 
shooting matches around this locality, but they do not interest 
me, and think glass ball shooting 
We had two small matches with the Sneider rifle here on Good 
Friday, which were the first of the season, and attracted a 
good many visitors to onr Victoria Rifle Ranges. Being the 
first practice of the year, the shooting was not up to the mark, 
but it was as good as the weather, which is not saying much 
for either. The following were the prize winners : 
Match No. 1.— Ranges, 290, 500 and 000 yards ; live shots 
at each range 
Creedtnoor, an International Military Match, open to all 
countries and colonics. I think the idea is a good one, and 
would be a very interesting match. And as suggestions as to 
the best arrangements for currying it out is asked for, I take 
the liberty of giving you my views in a brief word as to who 
I consider would bo the best manner to make it a success. 
First, 1 would have it shot at the most difficult ranges (or 
rather two of the most difficult), say 300, 500 and 00O yards, 
ten shots ut each range, and, for the benefit of foreign teams, 
sighting shots at each range. Second, I would suggest that 
the rifles to be used should bo llto bona fide ones, used by Any 
regularly constituted battalion of Regulars. Militia or Volun- 
teer fovee, and that tlio team should consist of twelve men 
chosen from any or all of the three above-mentioned grades- 
Fourth, I think that the prize ought to be A trophy to be 
yearly competed for on the range chosen by the victors, after 
the first year. It would also be, perhaps, advisable to give 
each of the individuals of the winning team a small badge ns a 
moinentO of their victory. Ami last, though not least, 1 
would suggest that the lmU of the proceeds of the entry money 
at the gate should be distributed in a proportionate way to the 
four teams making the highest aggregate scores. It would 
help to pay the expenses of those teams to ami from the match. 
These arc a few of the principal points which strike me, with- 
out going into it iu full detail. But I don’t think the arrange- 
ments could ho placed In belter hands titan the three gentle- 
men appointed as a committee to carry it out, viz. : Messrs. 
Wingate, Wylio and Waters. Siiootkb. 
NICK ON THE 
AMERICAN 
1877. 
TEAM OF 
THE 
Win Anril 29 — In the rifle match to day 
Milwaukee, ■ i ' ( N y , and Milwaukee rifle 
283 points out of a pos- 
£» ’ 300 at the 500-yard range, and 159 out of a possible 
srble JUO ai me ouu ^ ^ weul b er was cool aud 
Frlze 
Value 
»t> 5) 
4 00 
3 Ot) 
3 GO 
3 00 
2 00 
8 00 
1 76 
1 60 
1 GO 
Score. 
SergtD Mitchell GO 
Private Morley M 
Lieut AtUiu 
86 gt 1'dlD « 
Co-p McGregor. « 
Sorgt. J Mitchell BO 
sergt M Koberu W 
Lieut M Moines 49 
Q M Smith 48 
C °Ma"cTN D aT-Ranges 209 ‘and 409-yards, five shots at each 
raDge. 
Score. 
PrlvCow 15 
Prlv Morris 45 
Lieut Ryan.. 42 
Prlv Oinand 42 
Se gt Goldocy 4 1 
Sergt Ilaucotk 40 
Lieut storeman so 
Capt Barnard s » 
Prlv Lumstlen 3S 
Prlv Lewis 38 
Prize 
Value 
II Ifi 
1 35 
1 00 
1 00 
1 00 
75 
76 
76 
60 
GO 
209^at the 209-yards ; total 452. 
cloudy. 
a .imminent member of the Milwaukee team writes to 
^ *\niv savin''- “The shooting of the Saratoga club 
selves ‘ boss. 
Sfofub ?n S Stick M 4 Milwaukee riflemen. . In 
our next issue we trust to give the names in full. 
Jersey Rifle Association. -It seems verj ' likely thaUlie 
rantre will be at Elizabeth, on the line of the L. K. ot m.w 
Jersey The ground will be some 120 acres and the distance 
covered some 1.200 yards. The cost of arranging the 
Grounds will be $5,000. Fourteen canvas targets are to be 
nut u n Governor McClellan seems to take a very great 
interest" in rifle practice in New Jersey, and has been of 
signal service to the various committees. 
The Rifle at Rahway.— Match at Rahway, April 27, for 
all-comers’ badge : *444556 
G 4 4 4 4 4 
g 4*4444 
Score. 
Lieut Col Gibson 45 
Sergt Pain 
Prlv Jos Mason 41 
Prlv Morlev ••■•4b 
Priv Morris J® 
Prlv Thorne.... 
sergt J Mitchell sit 
Pr,v Lewis 39 
Prlzo 
Value 
10 oo 
3 on 
3 oo 
2 50 
a 00 
Score. 
Lieut Adam as 
Lieut MoMonles 38 
Lieut Stoueiuao ar 
beige Meltooeits •»* 
^ Prlv Murdoch 3< 
2 uO Sergt D Mitchell 3 ‘ 
175 Sergt Goluney 
1 60 
Prize 
Value 
$1 26 
1 oo 
1 oo 
75 
60 
60 
52 
F H Bolton 
D Banka . • 
C Watson. 
4 
....6 
2 4 
4 4 
5 4 
4-44 
6—43 
4—41 
Lieut -Col. Bacon, of Quebec, has invented a new canvas 
target the plan of which he has kindly sent me a 
S"3.isHSS.i.-=# 
a boy of fourteen or fifteen years u ■ frame is made 
that \htie j J“® r SpSSd to the buHets is V shaped, so 
the marker. They (^o ^ ^ by tlic marker, and conse- 
There is a tempest in a teapot rising over tlio action of th e 
American team of 1877, resolving to Htart out on uu inde- 
pendent idea of their own in the selection of the team to 
shoot tbo next international match on behalf ot the United 
States. However ill-limed and devoid of common gratitude 
such action on the part of the team may be, it finds a grain 
of reason in the loose manner in which the rules for the In- 
ternational match lmd been drawn up. Some weeks ago I 
pointed out the general fault in the literature of the N. R. 
A., but tlic team men cannot bo so utterly devoid of nil idea 
of logic as to suppose for a moment tlmt bocauao the condi- 
tions of tlio trophy do not specifically unine the National 
Rifle Association of America ns the managers of subsequent 
matches on the roll, that therefore such an irresponsible 
body, comparatively speaking, ns an ex-team, should assuino 
the right. What the team may and must do is positively 
laid down. They tiro to fix time and place for the next 
mutch and there the work of the team us a body is done. 
They are collectively held responsible for the safe return of 
the trophy iu time lor the next match. Whatever faults the 
conditions may show, nud many of them have never yet 
been broached, there is none so far as touches the duties and 
powers of retiring teams. They are given nil t he power which 
it is safe and proper they should possess, ami all they would 
ask or attempt to exercise if their motives were alike guided 
by decency and discretion. 
Go back a couple of years and rceull the angry, even 
acrimonious discussion which followed the resolution of tlio 
Board of Directors N. R. A., to ullow the members of tlic 
old team to stand on their previous record as against the 
efforts of new candidates for team honors, llowovor ini- 
proper this was, and none berated it more vigorously than 
old “Nick ” it would have been tenfold more galling if such 
a notion had comb from the team itself. If l remember 
aright some of tlic present leant members were then most 
vigorous in fighting tUis conceBSiou to the “ has linen's,” and 
now they bring up the very same million in even u more 
indefinite and objectionable form. But the team will say 
that they represent the riflemen of the country, and in their 
capacity of the champions have the most undeniable claim 
to speuk for the whole community of riflemen. There may 
be sonic truth in this, butnre not the Officers of the N. It. A. 
cnuallv representative as the chosen ones of tne leading as- 
sociation of America? The one body has won its way by 
works aud has not presumably any deliberative wisdom or 
managerial ability; the other body is chosen specially on ac- 
count of its supposed merit in these respects. 1 lie taking 
of any steps by the team outside -of the limits laid down for 
them at once raises the suspicion that the move is one for 
seif-perpetuation, that the team having tasted how sweet to 
the soul is the unction of being the champion shots of the 
world, arc not willing to step down and out. 
The old team members can do much to help the N. H . . A. 
in their selection of the next team. They have hud a valuable 
experience, and by suggestion and co-opcrnl.ye labor can 
do much to make the perplexing task of selecting a repre- 
sentative team an easy one for the committee of he National 
Rifle Association. But it is en.irely an uncalled for piece of 
foolishness on their part to approach the work of superero- 
Sn they have undertaken by attempting to show that the 
National Rifle Association of America « not true to iis name. 
Whatever the team is or has been, it owes primarily to 
that Association. Tlic team organized and went luto the 
competition with a full knowledge ot the Conditions govern- 
,j,e precedents which had clustered about it, and tbo 
written and acknowledged rules of procedure in regard to 
il American riflemen, far and wide, are free to give a 
honor to the men who so skilfully held up the honor of afl 
