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FOX RIVEJ* FISHING. 
I Pk §oihats. 
Batavia, 111., Slay 3d, 1875. 
Editor Forest and Stream:— 
Tbo Fox River of Illinois, from the Wisconsin Hue to Its Junction 
with the Illinois River at Ottawa, a distance of about one hundred miles 
abounds with flsli common to the tributaries of tbo Mississippi, and 
probahly second to none In numbers, variety nod size- The general 
course of the Fox River for the upper fifty miles Is due south, running 
parallel to the west shore of Lake Michigan, from which It Is distant 
about thirtv-slx miles; thence to Ottawa, southwest, fifteen miles of Its 
npper water mingles with quite a number of lakes, some of them six 
miles long by three wide Wild rice from four to twelve feet high grows 
In about three-fifths of their waters. The deepest water Is about forty 
feet. For twenty miles below the lake portion the river Is from twenty 
to thirty rotls w.de, gravel bottom, water from two to ten feet and slug- 
gish. and no rocks. For the next forty miles It Is much narrower, more 
rapid, gravelly ford* and floe pools, except the backwater of mill dam,, 
most of the way through a llmestono formation. The balance of Its 
course is through sandstone, lu somo places walled in rock, water course 
narrow and deep. . . , 
Thn lake region has the following fish, which are not fonnd, except in 
isolated cases. In the river: Mnskulouee, the largest caught will, rod and 
line (speaking of what I knO'O) being HI pounds, length, 3 foet in inches, 
caught with Bnel spoon, No 2; other weights. 28,22, IB. 11, 10, and 8 
pounds but no smaller. With epeara in Winter, ttey >ay, and I believe 
It as high as .5 pounds. Theso are not numerous. The black bass of 
the lakes differ from the river bass In form aud color, hat only trifling; 
they are somewhat thicker set; the sides are whitish groen; greatest depth 
of color nearest the back; belly, white, In largo specimens tinged with 
yellow greatest length, 20 Inches; weight, 6 pounds; best catch that I 
know of, 135 pounds in two hours; the sixteen largest weighed 04 pounds; 
bait live frogs. 8ilver bass (“o called) are pleuty; form, broad as long, 
aed’tbln; color, whlto, with litile dark mottles; mouth, small; eyes, 
large; largest size, two pounds. Yellow peroli, largost sizo, one pound, 
and last but not least, the gar; greatest length, 9 feet, they say I say 6 
feet that I know of. All the olhor fish are common to lake aud river, 
except the rlvor bass, or tiger bass, the best, gamlst, und most cunning 
of any American fish, exceptlog tho mlmonidae. Tbo river buss, so far 
as 1 know, is not found lu any of tho lake* connected with the Fox 
River, aud is a fish fond of swift water. In color ho is an ashy green, 
darkest on back and belly; sides tinged with yellow, and faint, tlger- 
Hke stripes running down oil the sides. In thirty-two year's experience 
1 have never seen one that weighed more than six pounds; greatest 
length. 22 inches; spread of tail, 8 inches. Every other one of tho ex- 
perts who know how, when, and where to take bass, will talk about taking 
them that weigh 6+, 7, 6, and oven 9 pounds. Por ten years I have offered 
five dollars to see one, and yet they will not "shut up nor pal up," and I 
am none the poorer, ouly they do heat mo fishing — with their mouth. In 
addition to the fore-named fish we have the plckerol ; largest size esnght 
of late years, lfl pounds; wall eyed pike, 15 pounds; red horse, 11 pounds; 
rock bass, 1 pound; bull bonds, 2 pounds; silver cels, 7* ponuds. Of 
the daco family wo havo four varieties, the largest of which will not 
weigh more than eight ounces. 
In my next I will detail tho mode of catching, and the habits and pe- 
culiarities of the fish of the river. Black Bass . 
GAME PROTECTION IN CANADA. 
Protidekcb, R. I., May 1st, 1875. 
Editor Forest aud Stream:— 
Notwithstanding the severe loss of the Brown University Boat Club, lu 
tho burning of their boat house with all lu contents, lu November last, 
they begin tho soason under good auspices. Through theefforUof tho 
undergraduates principally, a temporary etructu re has been ereoted on 
the site of the burnod building, and Is now occnpicd by the club. An 
English boat building firm— Dives & Co.— nse part of tho houso as a 
workshop, and havo turned out a slx-oar barge, used by the University 
crew, which Is said to be very satisfactory. A large number of aspirant* 
have been working in Iho gymnasium daring the Winter, and the follow- 
ing men will probably compose tho crews, subject to any necessary 
changes: F. II- Brown, '75, stroke; C. M. Loo. '77. No. 2; W A. Peck, 
*77, No. 3; C E. Field, '75. No. 4; W. O. Joslyn, '76, No. 6; S. J. Brad 
bury, '77, bow; with C. II. Poor, '77, as substitute. 
Of these Messrs. Brown and Field rowed In their class crew at Spring- 
field In 1872, and Mossrs. Lee, Peck, and Bradbury In last year's Fresh- 
man crew at Saratoga. Freshman crow— J. U, Parrot, stroke; A- N. 
Fairbank, No. 2; F. T. Whitman, No. 3; G. F. Weston, No 4; R. Case, 
No. 5; J. O. Winslow, bow; aud Geo. Goodwin, substitute. 
This crow Is nslng for practice a slx-oar shell, purchased from tbo 
Amherst Agricultural Boat Club. Both crews will leave for their quar- 
ters on Saratoga Lake, Near Snako Util, as soon after Commencement, 
June lfilh, as possible. Ilmutx. 
Princeton College, May 17th 1875. 
Editor Forest and Stream:— 
The University ntno played its first games of base ball lust week. Ou 
Tuesday, tho 12th, th» Cholseas, of Brooklyn, succeeded in vanquishing 
ns by tho score of 8 to 3. As it was the first game our nine had played, 
we were not surprised very much, but wo did expect a little more from 
them when the Harvard ninecamo hero on Saturday the 15th. Wo were 
hardly prepared for tho poor playing or! 'iced by both nines at various 
stages of thogamo. Wo felt qnlte confident of victory at the close of 
tho fifth inning, whon the score was 6 to 2 In our fnvor. The Harvard 
men thomsolvea seemed to despair of winning the game. They did not 
give up, howevor, but by tho aid of strong batting on their own part and 
many error* on that of the Princeton*, they closed the ninth Inning with 
the score of 9 to 7. The second game of tho series will be played ut Bos- 
tou on the 89th lust. Wo shall look for a different result then. 
QoiDTlS. 
Peterboro, May 7th, 1875. 
Editor Forest and Stream:— 
The general monthly meeting of the County of Peterboro Fish and 
Game Protective Society was held at the Huffman Houso on Wednesday 
evening last, Wm. Eastland. Esq., In the chair. Tho secretary read let- 
ters from Geo. B. Warren, Esq., of Troy, N. Y., (made honorary mem- 
ber at last meeting,) expressing his deBire to aid the society in carrying 
out its objects. After tbe transaction o.’ other business a discussion was 
entered Into as to tho true nurne or species of our Stoney Lake salmon 
trout. The result of tho debate seomad to favor the opinion that thoy 
were Identical with the Lako Ontario salmon. The thanks or tho socioty 
are duo Mr. Wm. Eastland for hts trouble In procuring for examination 
at the meeting a flue specimen of tho 8toney Lake salmon. 0. A. P. 
SOME FLORIDA FISH SCORES. 
Nkw Smtrna, Fla., May, 1873. 
Editor Forest and Stream:— 
To give au Idea of tho fishing on the east coast of Florida, I send an ab- 
stract from my fishing journal kept nt New Smyrna the past Winter. Tho 
flsblug was done m boats in the Hillsboro and Halifax Rivers, within a 
miloortwo of the Mosquito Inlet. We generally fished from two to 
four hours and usually on tho flood tide. Bait for sheepshend, round 
clams or crabs; for other fish, bass, trout, groupers, and suappers, Ac., 
mullet is the usual bait. For hooks, I have found tho Virginia pattern 
or Clerk & Co., Nos. I, 2 and 5, to suit this fishing better than any I have 
tried. I put In my list the sharks nnd rays, which are numerous, and 
are taken with the rod, from 20 to 100 pounds in weight; when larger 
they usually carry away the taeklo. We also take mauy catfish which, 
with toadflsh, swellflsh, Ac., I do not Include In my list, as we consider 
them as vermin. Tho sheepshead run from I to 7 pounds; average, 8 
pounds; bass from 1 to 80 pounds; average, 5 pounds; grouper from 1 to 
15 pounds; average, 8 pounds; snapper front 4 to 10 pounds; average, 2 
pounds; trout from 1 to 20 pounds; average, 4 pounds; drnmflsh 
from 5 to 50 pounds; average, 10 pounds; whiling and pigflsh averago i 
pooDd each; blncxflsb abeut 4 pound; bluoflsh, 4 pound. 
3- C Clarke. 
Abttrcul from Pithin'] Journal Agff at New Smyrna, E. Florida, In 
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M 8667 
—Tho Stevens Institute Athletic Association held iis reg- 
ular Spring meeting on tho old St. George’s cricket ground, 
at Hoboken, on Saturday last. The victors were presented 
with gold and silver prizes by the wife of President Mor- 
ton, an innovation on established custom which we arc 
most happy to record. The presence of ladies at these 
meetings would do much to tone down tho roughness that 
is too apt to attach to athletic sports. Tho following is a 
summary of the day’s performances: 
Three-mile walk— F. B. Foote, class '78, 1st. Time, 
29:18. 
One hundred yards run— n. Duane, class '70. 1st. 
Putting the shot— J. O. Burke. '76, 1st. Distance, 82 
feet 3^ inches. 
Throwing base ball— W. F. Zimmerman, ’70, 1st. Dis- 
tance, 812 feet 7 inches. 
Stauding high jump— Joseph Kingsland, 70, 1st. Height, 
4 feet 2 inches. 
Stauding long jump— J. O. Burke, 70, 1st. Distance, 0 
feet 5 inches. , , 
Half mile run— Duane, 1st, Zimmerman, 2d. lime, 
2:284. 
Blindfold race — W. C. Smith, 78, 1st. 
Running high jump— H. W. Hazard, 78, 1st. Height, 
4 feet 4 inches. 
One mile walk (walk over) — F. B. Foote, 78. Time, 9 :8). 
Running long jump — Hazard, 1st; 16 feet 4 inch. 
Three-legged race — Hazard and Duane, 1st. 
—Tho Rose Hill Collogo nine on May 12th whipped the 
Flyaways by 11 to 7. 
—Tho Live Oaks and Harvards played at Lynn, Mass., 
May 8lh, when tho collegians wero beateu by one run. 
&nswc\s go <%orv*yondtut$. 
Anonymous Communication* not Noticed. 
Ldke Tripp — Thanks for your kind allusion in Port Chester Journal. 
Ooonomowoc, Milwaukee — Ploaso give the exact diameters of your 8- 
foot bass rod at each foot of its length, beginning at the butt f — Gascon- 
ado. 
J. K, V., New York.— In yonr paper of April 22d yon recommend tho 
areca nut for destroying tape worms in dogs. Will you ploaso lot mo 
know where this article 1« to bo found? Ans. 8oe answer to “Teal" In 
this column. 
Teal, Salem.— Can you inform mo where Iho areca nut can be ob- 
tained and tho price? Ans. Address Messrs. Elinor A Amend, No. 206 
Third avenue, or Lehn A Fink, No. 160 William street, or wo cun forward 
it to you prepared in powders. 
P. M., Nyack, N. J.— Could yon give me the address of (be gentleman 
manufacturing gyro pigeons on an improved method, nnd for less cost 
than those In tho markotnow? Ans. Address Jacob Glahu, Amoricau 
Gun Engraving Oo., West Meriden, Conn. 
Phil, Lexington, Ky.— In your valuable paper of Iho Oth of tills month 
Is an Interesting article on the “New Method of Cranberry Culture. " 
Can yon inform mo whore the plants can be had, wbon to plant, and tho 
price per 100 or 1,000 plants? I feel anxious to soo tho experiment tried 
In this blue grass region. Ans. The author of the articlo l* dead, and 
wo cannot inform you. 
M. E. C., New York.— Is there good fishing in the Shrewsbury River 
in the vicinity of Port Washington, N. J., during Joly and August, and 
Is It a pleasant place for a party of ladies and gentlemen to spend the 
Summer? Ans. First rate; bass, weakllsh. soft crabs, Ac., Ac. Many 
pleasant hotels and boarding houses ou tho river. 
R. S. J., Sncramonto.— In Forest and Stream of April 29th I see a 
notice of a new metal shell for breech loading guns— Hart’s, of Newark 
Can yon give me the maker’s address, or any other information whereby 
I can get a sample of them? Ans. See our advertising colnmns of May 
13th and following. We will request that eamplcs bo forwarded to you. 
La Far, Savannah, Ga —What kind of a gun Is the Whitney Sportlog 
Rille, which I see advertised in your paper? Is It not very much like (be 
Remington, except that it throws the shell clear of the chamber? Ans, 
The Whitney Rifle resembles the Remington 1 n appearance . A* to Its 
shooting qualities we shall be better informed shortly, as we have one 
under trial. 
Chas. Baker, Poughkeepsie.— How much will it cost, and wbnt kind 
Of game Is there, and would it pay a party of two or three, in any part of 
Pennsylvania, banting and trapping? Ans. In Elk, Potter, aud McKean 
conn les, on the Linnamaboming and tributaries, ure still many deer, 
bears, cats, and a few panthers and fur bearing animals, bat we bardly 
think insufficient quantities to psy. 
Better, Fort Scott, Kan.— Is there not a plan of docking and drawing 
tho cords In a dog's tall, so as to render U perfectly straight and rigid, 
and can U bo done on a dog past six months of ago? Ans. If the tall of 
yonr setter Is long or oat of proportion. It may bo docked to advantage 
but tho drawing out of the cord I* a cruelty and of no nse. 
C W. U.. Now York.— Will you pleaso Inform me If yon know of any 
placo (not vory far from New York city) where thoro U Ashing and boat- 
ing; term* not to exceed |7 or $8 a week? Aus. There are doubtless 
many families along Long 1-laud Sound and on tho Now Jersey coast 
who take boarders at tho price you mention, say iwo hours’ sail from N . 
York, but wo havo none In uiiud at present. 
11. F. R., Philadelphia. — You have said tho "rowing apparatus" was 
the best method for bringing out the muscles on the chest aud shoal* 
dors, therefore yon will greatly oblige me by glvlDg me tho address of 
the parties who sell them? An*. Jo-. 8. Baldwin, P. O. box 53, New- 
ark. N. J. Send for circular and price list. 
Indian Pass.— A re there Any other book* on the Adirondack region 
except Headley's, Murray's, and tho "Modern Bvbe* In the Woods?" 
Ans. Yes, several; among them are 8. C. Stoddard's illustrated Adiron- 
dack*, published by Weed, Parsons A Co,, of Albany, and Vsrplanck 
Colvin's Adirondack Snrvoy, recontly published by the siuno firm. Dr. 
Todd's “Long Lako" was a vory pleasant nnd Instructive book, but prob- 
ably out of print. 
Zenos Thompson, Jr.— C an yoa tell me what makes my setter drool? 
He Is three years old, and has been eo for two years. Long siring* of 
splttlo will hang from His mouth sometimes; cannot too anything tha 
matter with hts mouth. It Is vory aunoylug at times, as ho slobbers 
everything he touches Canyon suggest any remedy? Ans. Your 
setter may havo old stumps of teeth, which should ho removed. 
8. F, C., Jersey City, N J.— I have read considerable about the 
Hackensack Rlvor being stocked with different kluils of fish. Onn yon 
inform me what part of tho rlvor It is, a* I llvo within a short distance of 
lion Jersey City Hoights? What kind of fish and what sort of bait 
would I need? Ans. Tho Hackensack River was Hooked a year 
or two ago with black bass and salmon trout by tho Naw Jersey Fisk 
Commissioners, and anglers are forbidden to catch thoso fish In Ita 
waters under severe penalties. 
J. C. C., New York. — Seeing In tho TUwitratid London X*U)i of May 
1st, 1875. W. Slade nnd J. Glhb's extraordinary time of torn. yj*. in tbotr 
four mile walk, I write to ask yon If this can bs correct, and If yoa havo 
the fastest time ou record for such a walk (amateur or professional)? 
Ans. The report to which yon olltido was a running match. The bast 
professional lime on record at four mllos Is 29m. 80s. by J. (Rockwell at 
London; best amateur time, 30m 37s., by YT J. Morgan, same place. 
C W. H,, Philadelphia.— Do yon know of any work that I enn buy 
which will give mo Information how to catch pike, black bass, rock nnd 
other fish fonnd tn tho Delaware River? Ans. Practical Instruction In 
angling has scarcely been attempted. Tho art can hardly bo Imparted by 
books. Norris' "Amoricnn Angler’s Book," Frank Forester's "Fish and 
Fishing," Roosevelt's "Game Fish of tho North," and Scott'8 “Fishing 
lu American Waters," are tho most comploto modern works we have. 
F. Q. W. H., Now York.— Aro there any boarding houses In the vlsin- 
j-.yof Luke nopatcoug, N. J ; where are they, anil how can I get la 
them, nnd wbatls the price of board per week? Is thn flshlng In said 
lake good, and what kind? What style of tackle would I need? Ans. 
There are good hotels on the lake shore at Hopatcong. Tulto Morris A 
Essex Railroad to Drakcsvtlle. Hotel rntos rcasonnblo. Fair pickerel 
fishing In sensou. They are taken with Buel spinners, trolling. 
Captain, Moosehend Lake,— Yon will find enclosed a rough sketeh of 
a fish eanghl in tho Penobscot Rlvor below Rlpogonn* Lake; weighs 4 to 
4 a pound, marked off In brown soollops, In the centre of each of which 
is a bright red spot; hits fine scnles, a little larger than those of a trout, 
and by scraping the fish the red spots become brighter. Tho meat. It 
light colored, about the same as a small brook tront, and 1* about th* 
same In flavor. The fish rises to a fly In the month* of July. August and 
September. What I* It? None or onr sportsmeu seem to know. An*. 
Undonbtedly a smolt or second year salmon. Mr. Atkins Is to blame 
for this. 
A D. 8., Springfield, Mass.— Will yon plsasa toll ns what Will cure 
canker in black and tan dogs*. Symptoms, enlargement of glands of 
throat, offensive breath ami drlhbllng from tho mouth. Said to bo a 
common disease, but wo are unable to finds remedy An*. Onnkorof 
the mouth oftoo arises from stumps of old teeth, which should be re- 
moved. Then toko todldo of Iron two grains, powdered nnx vonlca half 
a grain, snllclne two grains, extract of gentian, six groins, powdered 
quassia, as mach as maybe required The above makes one pill; give 
three or four dally, aud a gentle purgative, If required. 
Ameiuods, Now Hamburg — Some time last year I road an srtletA fn 
the Forest and Stream, stating that some time this season ch-re wn* 
to be a grand trial of all the breech loading shot gnus of both English and 
American manufacture, under tho direction of a board of experts? Is such 
trial likely to occur this eea*on, and If so when? Aus. Such « trial lias 
been projoclod, but uot finally arranged; whon It Is, uotico will bo given 
through onr columns. 2d. Are not lancewood, bornbenm, and buck- 
lliornnecd by rod makers in making tips of rod* only, tml is not greeu- 
heart used In making salmon rods, all bnt tip Joints? Aus. A completed 
article on thee# very subjects Is necessarily omitted from our columns 
until next weok . 
R., Ferrlsburgh, Vt.— Frank Forester deseribss the beagle •* "a 
pocket edition of tbo Sootnorn hound." portlcnlarly m-nitons his mrlo- 
dlous voice, and says that hi* " ears should hang down as far aimo-t ss 
to the elbow." Are such heaglo* to he found now, and If so. where? I 
have seen a couple of Imported English bosglea that sre far from an 
awering this description. They have little of tln< sppeoranco or the 
honud, and tholr cry as unmelodlous as the yelping of a turkey, They 
have, however, fine Intelligent faces, and their hunting qualm,-, are very 
good’. Ana. According to " Encyclopedia of Rural Sports." iho bi agio 
should resemble the Southern fox hound In minimum and bn not over 
fifteen Inches in height. But thoso wo have beer. Imported from England 
and Franco have not the foil volco and length of car of such hounds. 
Doctor, Boston.— Cannot good sen trout fishing with tho fly be got in 
tho mouth* or lower part* of some of the -almou rivers where the salmon 
would not rise, nnd If such 1* the ra-e could not permission bo obtnlnt d 
by one who could give credentlalsof respectability to Usli them fortrontf 
Can you tell mo of nny likely place, bow to get there, best season, ap- 
proximate expense, Ac.? An*. Good Ashing for sea trout enn ho hud 
at the mouths of any of the Nova Scotian rivers In Juno aud July, and In 
July und Augn-t on the 3t. Lawrence and Bay Cbaleur. In the Saguenay 
above Tedonsac, and on the bar at Its mouth; at Dalhouslc, Bay Clialeur, 
at the mouth of tho Nouvelle. (privilege to bo applied for) at Rtutlco, F. 
E. Island, and at Bathurst. N. B., aro eminently fine sea trout places. 
Should prefer Bay Chalenror Bagnenay. 8eml-weokly steamers to lut. 
ter place from Quebec during season. Expense trifling. 
Enqi’IRIR Washington, D. C.-I bavo a setter. Gip, thirteen months 
old- Head from tip Of nose to eyes, 41 Inches; thence to end of button, 
Sfr Inches' total 10 Inches. From tip of nose to root of tall. 45 Incbcf ; 
tall, 12 Inches; total length from tin to tip, 67 Inches Ears. 6 Inches. 
Girth of chest, 29 Inches. Stands 21 inches < lyh. Longest feathering on 
tail, 0 Inches. Color, black, except two white spots, onn on throat and 
the'oiher on chest between front legs. Feathering tinges Into grey, like 
rumple enclosed. Hair Is straight, perhaps a trifle wavy about car*, 
neck and root of tall. Well feathered front leg-, os well as bind once, 
and lias the npposrance of floss silk when viewed on clog. Tall, as to 
style of feathering, resembles Pride of the Border. Loves tho water, 
and retrieves from It as well on from tho land, Pleaso Inform me as to 
wlmt breed or strain she belongs, what you think of her points, and what 
show sbr would stand at a bench show, as romc friends desired me to 
enter her at the last show in Massachusetts? Aus. Yonr bltcb Is prob- 
ably of the Gordon strain, and if she U from pure letter stock, *1 k t» 
w«l» went s.pluce at any bench show. 
