FOREST AND STREAM 
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fishing on gre en lake. 
Jamaica Plains, Mass., -July 18th, 1875. 
EdITOII FOPEUT AND STHBAM:-- 
I observed in your jiupcr of the 8th of July aomo Inquiries about the 
flHhini' and shooting at Green Lake, Wisconsin, and *s I was there for a 
low days in September lust I will give you some extracts from my note 
b °s n eptfctubor 22d. 1874. -Took the 7 AM. train at Milwaukee on the St. 
Paul Railroad for IUpon, ninety miles; arrived at 12:30. and went to 
Wood's Hotel >o dine. At 3 P. M. took a buggy and driver to go to 
George Callings' boarding house on the south side of Green Lake. The 
distance is seven miles, overau open country, mostly In largo wheat 
field*, where, my drivor told mo, wore many prairie chickens. A mile 
from the lake we etilko a wooded region and descend from the prairie to 
the shorn of the lake, on which stands the large new house of Mr. G'ul- 
llii’s, painted brown, with brood piazzas, in a flue grove of oaks, 
found the house neat and comfortable, able to accommodate twonty-flv 
boarders; pi Ice from $3 ld $W por week. The lake Is ten miles lon_ 
and two wide, with high, wooded banks— a very handsome sheet of 
water. I found live or sit good light boats for rowing, and a sail boat 
1 got a son of Mr. C. to go out and row me while I trolled with a spoon 
Went half a mile, and pot one small pickerel, about two pounds. Two 
other men came In from fishing as I went out; one had three bass from 
two to three pounds in weight, the other nothing. The weather was 
warm mid the snn bright. 
September 23d. — Clear and warm. Went ont about 8 A M., taking 
man to row the boat. Went three miles along the south shore and got 
two pickerel of about three pounds each, trolling with two lines and 
spoons, but saw no bass. Shores high, and in some places walled with 
limestone, and generally covered with largo oaks. Rr-tiirned about noon 
and sent the man across the lake to the mouth of a stream to get ruin 
.nows for still fishing to-morrow. 
September 84th.— Started at 7 this morning with n hncket of live bait 
trolled along the south shore live miles without a strike at cither line. 
Then mossed over to a headland called the Sugar Loaf, and fished in 
twenty-five or thirty feet of water with live minnows. Expecting to 
find bass here I used n hook tied on gat, bul a pike took me and cut off 
the hook, and this was the only bite of any kind; my man, who wss also 
fishing, got nothing either. There were also two other boats fishing at 
this place; they got two pickerel. The day was very warm and bright. 
Returning in the evening by the same route I hooked a pickerel of about 
five pounds, which I played on my rod and brought up to the boat, but 
the boatman managed to lose it In bringing It In; so I wont home with- 
out a fish, having gone over eight or ten miles of water. The lake Is said 
to be 200 feet deep In places, and the fish In warm weather retire to these 
depths. June and October are sold to be the best months of fishing 
here, as the bass are then on the shallows. In the Spring and Kali ducks 
are numerous lu the shallow bays. S. C. C 
Rational Ragtimes. 
BASE BALL — THE PROFESSIONAL ARENA. 
—There are apparently two ways of petting at the base 
hull whip pennuut — the one is by winning it squarely by 
superior play in the field, aud the other is to break up the 
team which is successful in holding it year after year, and 
then try aud wedge your new team into the vacant place 
edgeways. For the past four years New York, Philadel- 
phia, Chicago, Hartford, and lastly, 8t. Louis, have hired 
base ball teams with the object of getting possession of the 
pennant, won by the Boston club iu 1872, and held by them 
ever since. Thus fur the effort has been a fuilure, though 
m pains have apparently been spared to attain the object 
in view. Despuiriug of success in any other way, the Chi- 
cago ball tossers have come to the conclusion to break up 
the champion Red Stocking team by giving their leading 
players such tempting offers in the way of increased sala- 
ries that they could not resist the bait. First they secured 
the noted pitcher Spalding by tendering him the captain- 
ship of the new team, and this being done, they soon 
brought in White, Barnes, and McVey as prisoners, to 
gether with Sutton, of the Athletics, men who originally 
won their reputations as Western players— Spalding, 
Barnes, and Anson, in the old Rockford team, White and 
Sutton, in the original Cleveland nine, and McVey, in the 
old Westerns of Indianapolis. These, with Peters, origi- 
nally of the St. Louis Red Stockings; Golden, of the 
Keokuk Westerns, with Devlin, Glenn, Hines, and War- 
ren, are to form the Chicago White Stocking Centennial 
team for 1870, the most thoroughly Western nine the Chi- 
cagos have ever placed in the field. Of course these ar- 
rangements arc in direct violation of tho spirit of the pro- 
fessional rules, but as the Chicago managers stick to the 
letter of the law, and do not actually engage these seced- 
ing Reds and Athletics until after November 1st, they do 
not violate the rules to the extent of incurring any penally. 
The question at present is, “What is Harry Wright going 
to do about it?” Why, simply go to work aud build up a 
new team, which lie can easily do, with himself and his 
brother as tho nculeus, and three such fine players as Leon- 
ard, Beals, and O’Rourke standing by him. Besides, there 
will be no difficulty in getting a choice of pluyers to join 
the Boston club, as their players have been too well treated 
not to make it the most desirable club a professional player 
can serve in. This new move on the part of Chicago, and 
the reorganization of the Cincinnati club, have been lively 
topics of conversation in base ball circles the past week. 
—Since our last issue the play in the championship arena 
has had the effect of changing tho positions of four of the 
contesting teams in the pennant race. In the first place 
tho Athletics step up next to the Bostons again, and the 
Hartfords step down to third position. Then, too, the 
Mutuals, who had declined to seventh place, retuke their 
sixth position, and send the Chicagos lower down in the 
class. Tho New Havens have pulled up iu their play 
lately, and now give the best nines trouble to win a ball 
from them. The Atlautica are last on the list, with no less 
than twenty-eight defeats out of thirty games — the worst 
record in the history of the game. They have a strong 
corps of players, but they have no head, no captain who 
has control, nor no management worthy the name. 
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•Htly 86th are as follows >- 
’{"ft ifcS' v "' M, I tnal, at Brooklyn. 
l i i !~S, 1 ‘tlnnilc. at Brooklyn.. . 
Jo ft 4 I,'", 1 1 v »4,PhlIad,lphla. at Hartford. . ! 
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lft . C ph 'o v «- Mutual, at Brooklyn .. 
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1ft A.i ■?!' “ Vl »- Philadelphia, nt Philadelphia 
July 23— Athletic vs Mutual, at I'hlluaelphla. 
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r" ft o-Ho^on vs. Athletic, nt Boston.... 
I.'lft ^’^ocklngvs.WaHhington. at Cincinnati..';., a ton 
1ft L P |l,l; "lelphln, at Philadelphia 8 to 1 
l ft ®~? ,li Cflco va. St. Louis, at Chicago a to 5 
July 22— Athletic vs. Mutual, at Philadelphia 9 to 0 
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July 24— Boston vs. St. Louis, at Boston 8 to 3 
A Rattling Game in Florida.—’ The R. E. Lee club, of 
•Jacksonville, played a mutch with the Georgias, of Savan- 
nah, on the Kith inst., resulting in one of the best amateur 
games ever played in Florida. The following is the score:— 
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Umpire, John Coyne Scorer for R. E. Lees, David Robinson. Sco- 
rer for Georgias, E. \V. Connor. Time of game, 2 hours. 
_ _ Portland, July 21st, 1875. 
Editor Forest and Stream -.— 
The closest and most exciting game of base ball ever played in Maine 
came off at Presumpscot Park yesterday between ihe Lowells, of Lowell, 
Ma«s., and the Resolnteg, of this cliy. the score standing 2 to 2 at the 
end of the tenth iuning. The Lowells went to the bat for the eleventh, 
and the first two strikers were put out, when tho next one, (Brown, their 
catcher,) was taken suddenly ill, and fainted upon the home plate. The 
Lowells having no substitute, refused to continue the game, and the um- 
pi.e, (Mr. White, of Lowell.) curiously enough docidud it a draw. The 
Kesolutes go to Lynn to play the Live Oaks next Saturday. Vidi. 
The Great Swimming Match.— J. B. Johnson, of 
England, and Thomai Coyle, of Chester, Penn., contested 
iu the Delaware River on Thursday last. When about six 
miles had been covered, Coyle, who had been leading, sud- 
denly threw up his hand, and would have sank if lie had 
not been taken into a boat. He was completely exhausted, 
his lips black, and his pulse scarcely perceptible. Johnson 
swam a mile and a half further, and was perfectly fresh 
when he left the water. Coyle is said to have partaken of 
whiskey several times while swimming, and the reaction 
following the false stimulation mayiiavc lost him the 
match, aDd almost his life. 
nsweqs jgo (£o respondents. 
J. H- B — Would you please give mo tho address of S. H. Hammond, 
author of “Hills and Lakes," “Wild Northern Scenes." Ans. Wo do 
not know it. 
B. L. G., Sharon, Penn.— Which of Hazard's powders do yon consider 
the cleanest and most effective for woodcock, quid, and grouse shooting; 
for use iu a fine brooch loading gun? Ans. Wc find Hazard's electric 
powder clean and effective. 
C. D., Hartford, Conn.— As I intend visiting the Thousand Islands, 8t. 
Lawrence River, about August 1st, I would like to obtain tho address of 
some farmer, living near good fishing grouuda, of whom I conld obtain 
board and boat. Ans. Don't know of uuy Go to Crossman House 
first, and ascertain Horn there. 
Constant Reader, Now York. Will yon kindly inform me whether 
there arc any wcakfish being caught at Prince’s Bay, S. I.. and If not, 
here is the best place in the immediate vicinity of New York to catch 
them? Ans. Weakilsh are being taken in moderate quantities at Prince's 
Bay. Go to Steele's for boats, etc.; leave the cars at Richmond Valley 
statfbn, thence by stage. 
8. W., Springfield, Mass.— Will you please tell me in the next answers 
to correspondents what is the host arrangement for carrying the cart- 
ridges for tho Mayuaid rifle, 40 calibre, long; also, where can 1 get a pair 
of army shoos ? Ans. From Henry C. Squires, No. 1 Courtlund 6treet, 
in this city, you can get leather case for carryiug rifle cartridges. Army 
shoes can bo had at Pitkin «fc Wuterbnry's, No. 110 Chambers street. 
W. G., Springfield, Mass.— I . Is tho vicinity of Moosebead Lake. Mo., 
good plato to camp a month in early Autumn for trout aud la.ge game! 
2. Arc insects a great aunoyance there? 8. Can 1 find a better covering 
for tho feet than shoes and moccasins, with strong buckled leggings? 
\es. 2. Not very troublesome at that season; take some Cnlexiruge. 
No. 
W. F. A,, Washington, D. C — Please inform me through the colamne 
of your pnpor how much powder a 12-bore pm will burn with an ordi- 
nary load or shot. Ans. About throe drachms powder to H ounces shot 
Is a fair load, but much depends upon the weight of your gun. which you 
have not given. Bogardus uses five drachms iu a 12-bore gun. 
C. D. S., Washington City.— I understand that by a recent act tront 
Ashing is prohibited in tho State of New York for a period of five years. 
If this is so, will you please luform me whether the law is general in its 
nature, or only applies to particular counties? Ans. No such general 
law lias been passed, or even proposed. Some protection may be desired 
for a particular stream only. 
E. H., Amherst, Mass. -Can yon direct me to any publication or pub- 
lications where I can find tho most reliable facts of speed and time? 
Ans. "Rowing and Athletic Annual," by Jos Watson, referee in inter- 
collegiate regatta; "Racing Record," by Spirit iff Vie Tim- m. and Clipper 
almanac, will give you the Information you desire. The latter combines 
athletic, racing, trolling, etc. 
C. O. A., Woonsocket Falls.— PIcaso toll me the cheapest route to the 
Raiicelcy Lakes from Boston; are boats to be fonud on the lakes to let; 
can you tell where to camp? Ans. Eastern Railroad to Portland, thence 
by Grand Trunk Railroad to Dunvlllo Junction, and Androscoggin road 
to Farmington, from there stage to Rangeley. Mr. Richardson, super- 
intendent of the Oquoasoo dub, will tell you where to camp Boats can 
Ve had. 
„ f K ' 8 ' Jiuw York -— 1 wan * ioget yonr advice about agun I think 
Rc ®‘"gton gno. to nse mostly for bay bird shooting on 
consider , a?? “.“ft ’ 8eni ' fal ,h00tln K- Lot me know what yon 
lA.in/.h K* hU ft* 1 8 Ans - A Rl>lnIu Kton or Whitney gun, 12-sauge 
. m ; * nd of aho,,t d K ht pounds In weight, will be a good 
vlccnble gnn for the purpose. 
I ,'^'“" a , P0ll8 ~ On po?e 307 ft n advertisement of Kay shot cartridge* 
gun dcotr fn t°hf° nr * un , d y aIef for Mm P lc " So far I have not found a 
It would be «ln r * COuntry wh0 can tell anything about them, 
to Tnn l a f . °. r h0 ma,,nf «etur«r to give his address. Ans. Owing 
come i t " 0n, " Cblnery ' lhe K * y * h ° l cartridges have not yet 
come into the market, but we are assured that they soon will. 3 
I n Regard* tn'thA^ °wi ** ** “ ,nn '- Hav,n K k '»dly answered my qnery 
in regard to the hardness of gun barrels, and In which you state the ha7 
how 8 '/," 0 k U lhe lnmpsa " d holts arc hard, will you please tell me 
fh« hn~7 , br T*' tbC lump * can hc twn P erw » har '> without hardening 
^" 8 ' Any t ' kllf " 11 Ru " maker can harden 'he lumps and 
bolts without hardening the barrels. It la one of tlielr arts 
coi'es B n«,nH A ! ,8 . Uet ft M “ lne ' -Wm y °" klud| y'"f«n» me through your 
H?,77fl!c v el colaran , what 18 the tflkiog bait for black bass? 
a,Tth!v h„v 8rS am K e “ 8C ' ak ° thl " Wcinl, y waa fllockl -‘d with them, 
Orli^ mlnno ° W N C plcntif " 1 ' A,, “ Fresh water crawfish, 
or hve minnow, where the fly .s not used: the latter should he a largo 
uscd wl,hSs D ccei',': 0Ugh W<! h 8 " kn ° WU lh ° ( ' Im P !c hackle to bo 
Ga'nesviUc, Texas. Plca»o sUte In yonr answers to corre- 
‘ be CO m rCCt Dam<! ° f °“ r horncd fr °S’ 0l "O. chaparral hen 
found n Texas. Texas will soon be no longer a game region, aa civill. 
“ “ at f r ° WdlD f 1 f’? e Knnu ' wc * twft rd to the open plains, and many 
valnaole specimens will become extinct. Ans. Wood terms the horned 
frog the crowned tapayaxtn, (Vhryvosoma MulnelUi.) The chaparral 
ben. known also aa the road runner and ground cuckoo, is termed Geo. 
coccyx CaJlfomlanut. 
O. R. W., New York.— Will yon kindly Inform mo throngh the corre- 
spondents column whether robins can be shot nt all. according to the 
present laws of this State? Ans. Roblus cun be shot In Angust, Sep- 
tember, October. November, and December, except in the countie* of 
Kings. Queens, Putnam, and Suffolk; in these only in October Novem- 
ber. and December. But these birds can be killed on a person’s own 
premises at any time when destroying fruit* or grapes. [Chap Ml 
amending sections 10, 19, and 5 of chap. 721, laws of 1871, State of N< w 
York.] 
D M 8., Rogers' P. O.. W. Va.— 1st. I see advertised inyonrlaat issue 
pair cocker spaniels." Please adv.se me as to their age, color size 
price, etc. 2d. What can I get lu New York for a doe (fawn,) tame us « 
cat; it Is about two months old; was caught when about one week old? 
3d. Do you know of any Rigby muzzle loading rifle. In perfect order, for 
sale cheap? An* 1st. The price of the spaniels is $30 each, $ W for a 
brace four months old. 2d. By advertising in our columns you would 
find a customer for your fawn; no demand from dealers. 3d. There a.e 
no Rigby mnzzle loading rifles for sale in this market. 
C. A. C., Philadelphia.— Please tell me of some tront stream* near 
Philadelphia; also about Milford, or almost anywhere in Pennsylvania, 
and the best way to reach them Ans. If yon will make your hendquar’- 
ters at Lackawaxen, on the Erie Railroad, at Williamson's Hotel, you 
will And many moderate streams within easy reaching distance. Also 
go to Trout River, in Lycoming county, twenty-live miles above Wil- 
liam-port. See Mac Williams, at the hotel, and he will drivo you and 
your traps to Pleasant stream, a delightful brook for fly costing. You 
are no doubt aware that the close season commences in Pennsylvania on 
August 16th. 
W. S., Randolph, Mass.— How are the string* measured at Coalin'* 
ehort range gallery; do they measure from centre of bullseye to Ceulre 
of each shot, or how? Ans. From centre of bullseye to centre of shot. 
What U the proper size of bullseye, centre, and outer for 100 yard range, 
and how much does a hit In each space score for the shootor? Ans.' 
Bullseye, eight Inches diameter, counting five; centre, sixteen inches, 
counting four; inner, twenty-eight inches, counting three; outer, forty 
inches, chanting two. This is toe Creedmoor target nsed from 100 to 
300 yards. Some of the short rango clubs use a tbreo luch bullseye at 
100 yards, with an exterior black circle to make it more plainly visible. 
Is the F. Wesson rifle, 38 inch calibre, 80-inch barrel, good for long range? 
Ans. No. Canyon tell mo of any book or pamphlet which gives any 
good advice to beginners in the art of rifle shootiog? Ans. Wingate's 
Rifle Manual. Wecan6endlt. 
G. W. G., Syracuse. N. Y - In your next Issue, If convenient, pieuno 
state as near as possible the nativity, habits, size, and the term of life of 
the popular fish called the shad. A great controversy has arisen in rela- 
tion to whether the shad lives more than one year, and whether it is pos- 
sible to grow shad in any other than salt water except for spawning, 
Seth Green to the contrary notwithstanding? Ans. The American -had, 
Alota tapidliHma, It is believed, is peculiar to l]ils country. A flsh re'- 
ported to be similar Is found In Chinn, but has not been identified. Its 
habits aro anadromoas. They are reported to have been caught years 
ago of nine pounds weight ; now, however, a six pound shad is a large 
one. The experiments of the United States Fish Commission have 
proved that lhe shad lives three years at least, acd that the males are 
soxually mature at two. Before they were artificially propagated it was 
the heiief of the fishermen on the Hudson that a shad matured in one 
year, spawned, and then died. Shnd are now living iu Lake Ontario, 
and perhnps the other great Inkes. 
R U,, Vicksburg, Miss.— Have shad been caught In the Mississippi or 
any of its tributaries this year? About two months ago a paragraph in 
the Forest and Stream stated that a fish supposed to be u shad had 
been caught near St. Paul, MIdd , and sent East for identifiraiion. Was 
It a shad? Some of those placed three years ago In the Alleghany, In the 
White River, Ind., in the Mississippi, near St. Paul, and lu tho Platte 
River, Colorado, by the United States Fish Commission, were expected 
to be seen this Spring. I have read the Forest and Stream carefully, 
but have failed to notice any report of their appearance in either of tlioso 
rivers, except the paragraph alluded to above. Ans. The flsh caught 
near St. Paul was decided to be a shad. Shad have been canght in ibe 
Mississippi this year, and each year a few are caught in that river and 
it* tributaries. Dr. Boyd, of Knoxville, Teun., reports having caught 
shad for the last thirty years, averaging from one to eight each year. 
See Prof Mlluer’s paper ou shad and Its artificial culture, in Prof. 
Baird s report of the work of the United States Fish Commission for 
1873. 
Tile Late George Brown.— The Dominion papers con- 
tain obituary notices of George Brown, the champion oars- 
man of America, who expired at Halifax ou the Dili inst., 
at the age of thirty-six. The record of his rowing life 
covers a long list of victories. The St. John Telegraph. 
says that “his lost race was on the Kenneheccasis ou the 
26th of September, 1874, against Evau Morris, of Pitts- 
burg, whom he defeated by a boat’s length in a race of five 
miles in 37 minutes. This race was for $2,000, anil 
excited great interest all over America. An attempt was 
made to get a match up between Brown and Sadler, the 
English champion, but the latter evidently had no wish to 
meet Brown, and nothing came of it. Brown was a fisher- 
man by trade, and it was iu that rough school that he 
learned to handle the oar. He was 5 feet 9i inches in 
height, and weighed when in condition for rowing 155 
pounds." It is proposed to erect a suitable monument to 
his memory, ana the Halifax Rowing Club has taken the 
matter in band. 
