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prohibit cattle entering any Irish port from England or Scotland if 
he thought fit ; but there was no analogous power whatever given in 
regard to the exportation of Irish cattle into England or Scotland. 
Pie therefore had an amendment to propose, to follow clause 5, 
providing that cattle should not be shipped from any Irish port 
without a certificate as to their sound condition from the inspector 
of the port. The foot-and-mouth disease had been spread in this 
country by the Irish cattle brought over to Liverpool, Glasgow, and 
other places. Unless some such amendment as he suggested were 
adopted, the owners of unsound or diseased cattle in Ireland would 
have every inducement to get rid of them by exportation to England 
and Scotland. 
Earl Spencer protested against the general attack made by the 
noble lord who spoke last on Irish cattle (a laugh). He had never 
seen any proof that the Irish cattle had more disease among them 
than any cattle moved from one part of Great Britain to another. 
He had no objection to the first of the noble earl’s amendments, 
but he opposed the second one as being wholly unnecessary. It 
would be unjust to bind down the Irish cattle trade by the severest 
restrictions by Act of Parliament, especially seeing that the Lord 
Lieutenant and the Privy Council of Ireland had ample power to 
issue such regulations as in their discretion they deemed requisite. 
That Bill put the Irish cattle trade in precisely the same position 
as the English trade was placed by the Consolidated Act passed last 
year, and it would provide proper safeguards against cattle disease 
both in Ireland and in Great Britain. 
The Duke of Richmond maintained that there was disease among 
the cattle of Ireland now, and the introduction of that very Bill 
itself was some evidence of this fact. He ventured also to assert 
that Irish cattle had brought disease into Scotland. The Lord 
Lieutenant had said that the Irish Government at present had ample 
power by order in Council to adopt all the restrictions which the 
noble earl (of Airlie) wished to place upon the exportation of Irish 
cattle, but if that were so, why was that power not exercised? 
[Earl Spencer said that he had stated that if this Bill passed they 
would have that power.] The amendment of the noble earl opposite 
would not put Ireland in any worse position. If the Irish cattle 
were sound there would be no difficulty in getting a certificate ; if 
they were unsound it would be right, in the interest of this country 
and of Scotland, that there should be some such proviso as that 
recommended by the noble earl. If his noble friend divided he 
would vote with him. 
After a few words from Lord Talbot de Malahide, 
Lord Dunsany hoped the House would not support the amend- 
ment. The interests of the manufacturing population of Lancashire 
and West Yorkshire were quite as much concerned as Irish interests, 
and if the people of those districts were able now to buy meat at a 
reasonable price, it was owing to this, — that there was some grass 
growing in Ireland, while there was none in this country. Pretty 
nearly every Monday’s market at Liverpool was stocked by three or 
