HUMANE TREATMENT OF ANIMALS USED IN RESEARCH 103 
The subject of anesthesia is mentioned in this bill. Some of us have seen 
suffering under the act. Miss Liud-nf-IIageby has seen a great deal, and I have 
seen a great deal, in many laboratories. I won’t say more than that. But this 
act of ours does protect the vivisec-tor and not the animals, and I am quite sure 
that it may be even worse in the United States. 
Not so very long ago, when I addressed the annual general meeting of the 
National Anti- Vivisection Society, there was sitting in the audience the Honorable 
Juliette Gardener, the granddaughter of the man who introduced our act of 
Parliament. That act had been brought in with the best of intentions, and it 
has, I think, been indicated that the way to Hades is really paved with good 
intentions, and it most certainly is in this case. 
What troubles me about the introduction of this bill is that it coincides with 
the official and costly move by the U.S. Government to establish — they have 
established it — a monkey farm of 163 acres near Portland, Oreg. Two million 
dollars have already been voted for it, and there is another request for $2 million. 
Five more farms are planned, and each one is to cost .$2 million. These are 
scheduled as national primate centers. They will be different from the usual 
animal laboratories in the sense that guest vivisectors will visit them, and Dr. 
Donald Pickering, of the Oregon Medical School, says “It is expected that visiting 
researchers will flock to these centers.” We do not doubt his words. 
PUBLIC HEALTH SERVICES 
The Public Health Service, a branch of the U.S. Department of Health, Educa- 
tion, and Welfare, will run these monkey centers, and, at this late hour, Dr. 
Karl Meyer, the Chairman of a Federal Advisory Committee on Primates, says, 
“Medical men and others expect to discover which primates most closely resemble 
man for specific tests.” 
The Wall Street Journal points out that the U.S. researchers started intensive 
work years ago, but it is Russia, that has forged ahead. It is almost an inter- 
national fight over the bodies of these creatures; and I think we must be inter- 
national in outlook. Science is international and we antivivisections must be. 
I have here a copy of the speech made by the founder of the American SPCA 
at their annual general meeting in 1881. He said this: 
"It has been suggested that it would be more wise to ask for a modification of 
the system of vivisection, rather than its unqualified abolition. Vivisection, like 
murder or arson, is either right or wrong. If it is right to torture a sentient 
being to death, by all the methods that science and art can devise, then it is 
wrong to restrict that right : if it be wrong, it follows that instantaneous and 
uncompromising finality should be insisted on * * * if civilization be not a 
myth, and mercy not a mockery, then the demoralizing, bloody and remorseless 
crimes inflicted on one-half of God’s animated creatures should meet with 
prompt and eternal condmenation and end * * *. So long as physical power 
and constitutional right shall remain to me, I shall continue to plead in my own 
humble way the termination of these wrongs against nature, against reason, 
and against the public conscience of America.” 
Mr. Roberts. Are there others? 
The committee willl stand adjourned until 2 p.m. this afternoon. 
(Whereupon, at 12:20 p.m., the hearing was adjourned, to recon- 
vene at 2 p.m. of the same day.) 
AFTERNOON SESSION 
Mr. Roberts. The subcommittee will please come to order. 
Mrs. Stevens, would you like to introduce the two witnesses, Prof. 
A. N. Worden, director of the Huntingdon Research Center, Hunt- 
ingdon, England; and I believe Maj. C. W. Hume, secretary general, 
the Universities Federation for Animal Welfare, London, and I be- 
lieve they will make separate appearances. 
Mrs. Stevens. Yes. 
Mr. Roberts. Would you like to introduce Professor Worden or 
Major Hume at this time ? We would be glad to have either of them. 
