118 HUMANE TREATMENT OF ANIMALS USED IN RESEARCH 
(The publication referred to was placed in the committee files.) 
Mr. Roberts. I notice your comment with reference to the project 
plan that is outlined in the Griffith bill. And I was interested in 
what you had to say about the work ability of that kind of a plan. 
Do you think that the project plan might be restricted somewhat 
so that it would cut down on the paperwork that the researcher would 
be required to do in order to perform some of the experiments? 
Mr. Hume. Yes. In our case it doesn’t run to more than a few lines 
on the certificate B. I have back there a few samples of our wording 
which I could hand to you afterward, if it would be of interest. 
Mr. Roberts. I would like to have that. I wonder too if you could 
supply us with a copy of the British Act, or if any of the other wit- 
nesses have done that. 
Iam not sure whether a copy of the act has been placed in the record. 
Mr. Hume. I have that. 1 ought to warn you that it is badly worded. 
It had to be cut up very badly in the committee. The fact is that a 
lot of study is needed before you can see what it amounts to. But it 
really gave the Home Secretary a pretty free hand. 
And we worked out, in collaboration with the first chief inspector, 
Sir George Thayne, who was a very able medical man, he worked out 
the method of administering the act, and the act itself doesn’t tell you 
very much, it is the interpretation of the act that matters. 
Mr. Roberts. Can you give us any idea of how frequently the 
inspectors visit the various laboratories and places where the animals 
are kept? 
Mr. Hume. Yes, sir ; the average is about three times a year. But 
that doesn’t give you a fair idea, because some people they know to be 
all right, they hardly ever see, for instance our girl at the Royal 
Veterinary College hasn’t seen an inspector in 5 years, they know she 
is all right. But somebody they are doubtful about they will visit 
very frequently. 
Mr. Roberts. Mr. Nelsen. 
Mr. Nelsen. We are glad you took the time and trouble to be here, 
and certainly your statement represents a good deal of time and re- 
search. Thank you. 
Mr. Hume. Thank you very much, gentlemen. 
I am greatly honored. 
Mr. Roberts. Our next witness will be Mrs. Ann Free, of Wash- 
ington. 
STATEMENT OE ANN COTTRELL FREE, WASHINGTON, D.C. 
Mrs. F ree. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I will be very brief, because 
I know there are others. 
Mr. Roberts. I know Mrs. Free has done quite a bit of work on this. 
She was one of the people who was primarily responsible for the pas- 
sage of the humane slaughter bill, and she has done a lot of work in 
connection with improving the Washington Zoo and pointing out some 
of the questionable places out there. I think that some of her recom- 
mendations are being followed. 
She is a writer for the North American Newspaper Alliance and 
various magazines and periodicals. 
It is a real pleasure to have you here with us. 
